DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[peter11435]

Where did the savings come from?

Really?

 

[plutofan15]

Really?

Yes, I’m curious as to wear you believe the massive savings come.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Yes, I’m curious as to wear you believe the massive savings come.

It’s been explained many times - there is a cost to operating the attraction. The attraction CM’s, managers, maintenance, etc.

It all adds up.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

It’s been explained many times - there is a cost to operating the attraction. The attraction CM’s, managers, maintenance, etc.

It all adds up.

and there is profit to be made from the two dining locations and from from the show being part of lightning land multipass

do they even out, one more than the other? not sure - can't imagine it is enough either way to be the singular driving factor for a multibillion dollar income generating global company

 

[lazyboy97o]

and there is profit to be made from the two dining locations and from from the show being part of lightning land multipass

do they even out, one more than the other? not sure - can't imagine it is enough either way to be the singular driving factor for a multibillion dollar income generating global company

They close the hot dog stand in the middle of the park at 5:00 PM to save a few bucks.

 

[Emamba]

Never mind I see there’s no construction updates just other discussions :’)

 

[danlb_2000]

and there is profit to be made from the two dining locations and from from the show being part of lightning land multipass

do they even out, one more than the other? not sure - can't imagine it is enough either way to be the singular driving factor for a multibillion dollar income generating global company

They are likely loosing very little on the dining locations, people will end up eating somewhere else in the park, or on property.

 

[plutofan15]

It’s been explained many times - there is a cost to operating the attraction. The attraction CM’s, managers, maintenance, etc.

It all adds up.

I am well aware that there is a cost to operating attractions. Savings regarding cast members working Muppets area is basically zero. Cast members were not laid off but reassigned across the resort. Some here will say that people will have hours reduced because of "overstaffing". That is simply not true. Muppets was not a labor intensive attraction, cast members can be reassigned to attractions across the four theme parks with very minimal effect on headcount or hours. Workers at the two restaurants were reassigned across the entire resort - theme parks, hotels, water parks, Disney Springs, etc.. The same is true with custodial workers. The greatest savings were due to utility costs which amount to pennies on the dollar for operating costs. Cost savings was not the driver behind closing Muppet Courtyard, whether you want to believe it or not.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I am well aware that there is a cost to operating attractions. Savings regarding cast members working Muppets area is basically zero. Cast members were not laid off but reassigned across the resort. Some here will say that people will have hours reduced because of "overstaffing". That is simply not true. Muppets was not a labor intensive attraction, cast members can be reassigned to attractions across the four theme parks with very minimal effect on headcount or hours. Workers at the two restaurants were reassigned across the entire resort - theme parks, hotels, water parks, Disney Springs, etc.. The same is true with custodial workers. The greatest savings were due to utility costs which amount to pennies on the dollar for operating costs. Cost savings was not the driver behind closing Muppet Courtyard, whether you want to believe it or not.

Given CM turnover, you can quickly reduce the number of CMs without laying anyone off. Or, you cut back on overtime pay. Given the number of people on their payroll, very small cuts have a big impact.

In the case of Muppet Courtyard, it was about utilization. How much are they spending to operate a typically-dead corner of the park? They will be happy to staff this area of the park once MI opens as it will be slammed and the park’s attendance and profits will likely rise.

The only park where I personally think there is inadequate dining capacity is MK around lunch time. DHS is fine.

 

[Gusey]

Never mind I see there’s no construction updates just other discussions :’)

No construction updates unfortunately, I'm not sure how much of this project you'd actually be able to see from the ground now Stage 1 has gone until either the door coaster goes vertical or PizzeRizzo/Muppet Vision's facades get updated

 

[EagleScout610]

No construction updates unfortunately, I'm not sure how much of this project you'd actually be able to see from the ground now Stage 1 has gone until either the door coaster goes vertical or PizzeRizzo/Muppet Vision's facades get updated

I guess we could always watch for when Gonzo eventually falls off the clock out front

 

[YodaMan]

I am well aware that there is a cost to operating attractions. Savings regarding cast members working Muppets area is basically zero. Cast members were not laid off but reassigned across the resort. Some here will say that people will have hours reduced because of "overstaffing". That is simply not true. Muppets was not a labor intensive attraction, cast members can be reassigned to attractions across the four theme parks with very minimal effect on headcount or hours. Workers at the two restaurants were reassigned across the entire resort - theme parks, hotels, water parks, Disney Springs, etc.. The same is true with custodial workers. The greatest savings were due to utility costs which amount to pennies on the dollar for operating costs. Cost savings was not the driver behind closing Muppet Courtyard, whether you want to believe it or not.

This has been talked to death but this simply isn’t true. It’s why they have part time cast who aren’t guaranteed any hours. It’s why they have college Program cast who turn over every few months. It’s why they have full time cast who are only guaranteed 32 hours. Muppets closed and those labor hours to operate the courtyard went away. Full timers and part timers got scheduled less hours. Less CPs were brought into the area. Closing Muppets saved money.

 

[Gusey]

Can we please stop with the bickering about why Muppet Vision closed earlier than we were expecting. Unless you actually work on the project, no one will know the whole truth and the constant bickering and speculation is just spiraling out of control

 

[plutofan15]

This has been talked to death but this simply isn’t true. It’s why they have part time cast who aren’t guaranteed any hours. It’s why they have college Program cast who turn over every few months. It’s why they have full time cast who are only guaranteed 32 hours. Muppets closed and those labor hours to operate the courtyard went away. Full timers and part timers got scheduled less hours. Less CPs were brought into the area. Closing Muppets saved money.

Never said it didn’t save money. But closing it didn’t save nearly the amount some believe. I trust the information that I received completely.

 

[aladdin2007]

Given CM turnover, you can quickly reduce the number of CMs without laying anyone off. Or, you cut back on overtime pay. Given the number of people on their payroll, very small cuts have a big impact.

In the case of Muppet Courtyard, it was about utilization. How much are they spending to operate a typically-dead corner of the park? They will be happy to staff this area of the park once MI opens as it will be slammed and the park’s attendance and profits will likely rise.

The only park where I personally think there is inadequate dining capacity is MK around lunch time. DHS is fine.

Agree yet its there, they just don't utilize it. They want every one cattle herded into one or two quick serves to save operating costs and that's it leaving the rest shuttered. One more sit down couldn't hurt either but they could at least use what they have and get the hordes spread out for quick service....sorry back to Monsters,,,I just hope this area is more to see than just the coaster, and not another dead alley with nothing else in it. It better have a proper store unlike toystory land which was an afterthought.

 

[Rhinocerous]

Agree yet its there, they just don't utilize it. They want every one cattle herded into one or two quick serves to save operating costs and that's it leaving the rest shuttered. One more sit down couldn't hurt either but they could at least use what they have and get the hordes spread out for quick service....sorry back to Monsters,,,I just hope this area is more to see than just the coaster, and not another dead alley with nothing else in it. It better have a proper store unlike toystory land which was an afterthought.

This still boggles my mind. From a company so obsessed with the profit margins on merch, and a brand merchandised to the gills, the lack of a real shop seems like a staggering oversight.

 

[peter11435]

I am well aware that there is a cost to operating attractions. Savings regarding cast members working Muppets area is basically zero. Cast members were not laid off but reassigned across the resort. Some here will say that people will have hours reduced because of "overstaffing". That is simply not true. Muppets was not a labor intensive attraction, cast members can be reassigned to attractions across the four theme parks with very minimal effect on headcount or hours. Workers at the two restaurants were reassigned across the entire resort - theme parks, hotels, water parks, Disney Springs, etc.. The same is true with custodial workers. The greatest savings were due to utility costs which amount to pennies on the dollar for operating costs. Cost savings was not the driver behind closing Muppet Courtyard, whether you want to believe it or not.

Most of what you have typed here is not accurate. I’d go point by point but that has already been done multiple times in this thread. Closing muppet courtyard will save millions annually. That’s not penny’s and Disney does not view it as penny’s. Muppet vision operations labor alone will save around $1 million per year. The decision to close muppet courtyard now instead of waiting until the project requires it to close was made based on economic factors. Cost savings was the driving factor, whether you want to believe it or not.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Closing muppet courtyard will save millions annually.

"Theme parks are about saving money after all" - Bob Chapek Iger

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

, the lack of a real shop seems like a staggering oversight.

It seems like the merch goals have shifted a bit - stock up the larger stores with all the popular ip’s associated with the parks - and have less individual stores with smaller selections.

 

[plutofan15]

Most of what you have typed here is not accurate. I’d go point by point but that has already been done multiple times in this thread. Closing muppet courtyard will save millions annually. That’s not penny’s and Disney does not view it as penny’s. Muppet vision operations labor alone will save around $1 million per year. The decision to close muppet courtyard now instead of waiting until the project requires it to close was made based on economic factors. Cost savings was the driving factor, whether you want to believe it or not.

Those who I spoke to state otherwise. Believe what you want.