MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[TrainsOfDisney]

I mean... This concept art seems to indicate that HM will be opposite the miniland main entrance/exit. Meaning the wilderness lodge won't be like right next to the mansion.

That’s not concept art - that’s an artistic illustration. Nothing about that art is to scale - and that art does not tell us anything about the mansion.

I also noted that the art does not include the train or train station which is a bit concerning since both were previously part of Frontierland.

 

[Disstevefan1]

That’s not concept art - that’s an artistic illustration. Nothing about that art is to scale - and that art does not tell us anything about the mansion.

I also noted that the art does not include the train or train station which is a bit concerning since both were previously part of Frontierland.

We have NO IDEA what we are going to get until the area is open for previews in 3 to 5 years.

All concept drawings/illustrations aside, we do not know what the end product will be after all the scope cuts are made.

 

[Purduevian]

That’s not concept art - that’s an artistic illustration. Nothing about that art is to scale - and that art does not tell us anything about the mansion.

I also noted that the art does not include the train or train station which is a bit concerning since both were previously part of Frontierland.

Concept art vs artistic illustration... come on you have to agree that's splitting hairs.

Also 100% agree we can't take it as gospel (things can be missing things can be added), but it's the closest thing we have right now as to what Disney is planning and in what orientation.

So we have 3 options:
1) Ignore it and assume the worst
2) Ignore it and assume the best
3) Realize it is the best we have and try to infer what that means.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Concept art vs artistic illustration... come on you have to agree that's splitting hairs.

It’s not. That’s a cartoon - not concept art.

They did release what I would consider concept art at D23.

 

[JD80]

I mean... This concept art seems to indicate that HM will be opposite the miniland main entrance/exit. Meaning the wilderness lodge won't be like right next to the mansion.

Good chance there will be woods around the perimeter of Piston Peak and they will use those trees as part of the queue in HM as well as the pathway towards villains where the woods gets spookier or darker as you get closer to villains land.

 

[Purduevian]

It’s not. That’s a cartoon - not concept art.

They did release what I would consider concept art at D23.

Ok using TrainsOfDisney approved concept art... still looks like HM will be very isolated and remain separate from Piston peak


EDIT: Found a better image

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

It’s not. That’s a cartoon - not concept art.

They did release what I would consider concept art at D23.

@Purduevian - since I clearly wasn’t telling a joke, I’m not sure why you used the laughing emoji.

This is early concept art -

This is a cartoon illustration-

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

still looks like HM will be very isolated and remain separate from Piston peak

Nobody said it would be part of Piston Peak - Piston Peaks entire design will change the design of a huge part of the park and specifically 3 existing E-tickets.

That’s not necessarily a bad thing - since the loss of the riverboat is now all too real, I have to be optimistic that the design will enhance all 3 e-tickets that already exist.

 

[Incomudro]

@Purduevian - since I clearly wasn’t telling a joke, I’m not sure why you used the laughing emoji.

This is early concept art -
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This is a cartoon illustration-

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The cartoonish illustration is actually a lot more clear and shows us a lot more of what they plan to do - should they do it.
It also shows a waterway all the way and slightly past the (former) river boat boarding station, whereas in the earlier concept art that is depicted as a "dirt" path with the ride vehicles on it.

 

[jah4955]

Nobody said it would be part of Piston Peak - Piston Peaks entire design will change the design of a huge part of the park and specifically 3 existing E-tickets.

That’s not necessarily a bad thing - since the loss of the riverboat is now all too real, I have to be optimistic that the design will enhance all 3 e-tickets that already exist.

Country Bears were once "E-ticket."

 

[Bocabear]

Ok using TrainsOfDisney approved concept art... still looks like HM will be very isolated and remain separate from Piston peak


EDIT: Found a better image View attachment 875142

This image does not show the HM Queue at all... so by the time that is added in and intrudes on the new path, HM will look like it is slightly separated by some trees and a little rockwork with the go-kart race just on the other side...

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

The cartoonish illustration is actually a lot more clear and shows us a lot more of what they plan to do - should they do it.

i disagree - I think it takes lots of liberties to exaggerate details they want you to notice and take everything out of scale and realistic placements.

But the original released art could be so far from the truth of what we are getting it doesn’t matter haha.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

My theory - and would love to hear from insiders if I’m anywhere close or really far off -

The plan for Cars and Villians is far from set - and could even be drastically changed.

It made sense to make this decision while big thunder was down - and they knew that any future expansion would benefit from leveling the river so the last minute cars announcement was made as an excuse to start the plans into motion.

 

[Disstevefan1]

The plan for Cars and Villains is far from set - and could even be drastically changed.

 

[James Alucobond]

The plan for Cars and Villians is far from set - and could even be drastically changed.

There is simply no way that Cars is “far from set”. That does not mean that things can’t change even after work gets underway, but they are certainly very far down the development pipeline.

 

[danlb_2000]

There is simply no way that Cars is “far from set”. That does not mean that things can’t change even after work gets underway, but they are certainly very far down the development pipeline.

What are you basing that on? They could easily spend another year doing demoliton and land prep before work actually starts on the land.

 

[lazyboy97o]

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What are you basing that on? They could easily spend another year do demoliton and land prep before work actually starts on the land.

A year to finish construction documents isn’t too crazy and would place the project well into the design development phase. The design should be strongly set by the end of design development as the show design documentation would be going out to vendors to develop shop drawings while the architects and engineers do the permit drawings that are used for actual construction.

 

[danlb_2000]

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A year to finish construction documents isn’t too crazy and would place the project well into the design development phase. The design should be strongly set by the end of design development as the show design documentation would be going out to vendors to develop shop drawings while the architects and engineers do the permit drawings that are used for actual construction.

So you agree with James that the design is probably pretty well set by now?

 

[MisterPenguin]

We're dealing with Schrödinger's CAD. The plans are both fully done and not begun.

 

[Disnutz311]

Guessing they are finishing DD phase and moving into CD Drawings which would take 6 months to a year. Plenty of time while they demo and grade.