MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

lazyboy97o

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What are you basing that on? They could easily spend another year do demoliton and land prep before work actually starts on the land.
A year to finish construction documents isn’t too crazy and would place the project well into the design development phase. The design should be strongly set by the end of design development as the show design documentation would be going out to vendors to develop shop drawings while the architects and engineers do the permit drawings that are used for actual construction.
 

danlb_2000

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A year to finish construction documents isn’t too crazy and would place the project well into the design development phase. The design should be strongly set by the end of design development as the show design documentation would be going out to vendors to develop shop drawings while the architects and engineers do the permit drawings that are used for actual construction.

So you agree with James that the design is probably pretty well set by now?
 

jah4955

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Never would have been if they started with the garbage they have in there now.
I haven't been there since before the most recent version of the Country Bears. I don't see myself returning for the foreseeable future, if ever, although I live only two hours away. I loved the riverboat, and I also have great memories of the keelboats, the canoes, and the delightful "Frontierland" details along both the railroad and the Rivers of America ... but it was TSI where the majority of my fond Magic Kingdom memories were created. Two major reasons. First, it was where you could go at your own pace, ...no rush...taking as much or as little time as you were "exploring" in freedom and safety what was the most epic of playgrounds for a child of the 80s to experience. That ties into the second major reason: while exploring, Disney, in-a-sense, rewarded you with all of the details scattered throughout: the bird in the windmill, the details of the blacksmith, the "escape tunnel," etc...Most of the time "these discoveries were made" you were either by yourself or there were only a few others nearby. It not only allowed the imagination to "take flight," but it made you feel special, even important, within that imaginative discovery, like you found a treasure no one else knew about. That was the charm that set Disney apart in my opinion.
 

flyerjab

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County Bear's are much better liked now according to the satisfaction scores so 🤷‍♂️

Definitely the right choice imo, when I went everyone was clapping, singing, and having a good time. And it was a pretty full house too.
Same. We went to that show one time in its original form. One and done. After the refurb, we’ve gone multiple times now. Were there Just a few days ago and we saw the same phenomenon: people actually singing along and clapping.
 

JMcMahonEsq

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We can split hairs on words, but we don't know what we will get till its done. Just look at the EPCOT renovation, yes, I know, pandemic, yada, yada yada.
That's not splitting hairs on words. It's saying 2 very different things. There is a world of difference from knowing that in any construction project, final designs/as-built conditions can change, versus making the unsubstantiated statement that the design is "far from set."
 

James Alucobond

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We can split hairs on words, but we don't know what we will get till its done. Just look at the EPCOT renovation, yes, I know, pandemic, yada, yada yada.
I placed the exact same caveat on what I said that @lazyboy97o did. I said that the plans are almost certainly solid, but that does not mean the plans cannot change; it’s just that they’re not still waffling to any significant degree on their current intent, as was implied by the post I quoted.
 

Bocabear

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I haven't been there since before the most recent version of the Country Bears. I don't see myself returning for the foreseeable future, if ever, although I live only two hours away. I loved the riverboat, and I also have great memories of the keelboats, the canoes, and the delightful "Frontierland" details along both the railroad and the Rivers of America ... but it was TSI where the majority of my fond Magic Kingdom memories were created. Two major reasons. First, it was where you could go at your own pace, ...no rush...taking as much or as little time as you were "exploring" in freedom and safety what was the most epic of playgrounds for a child of the 80s to experience. That ties into the second major reason: while exploring, Disney, in-a-sense, rewarded you with all of the details scattered throughout: the bird in the windmill, the details of the blacksmith, the "escape tunnel," etc...Most of the time "these discoveries were made" you were either by yourself or there were only a few others nearby. It not only allowed the imagination to "take flight," but it made you feel special, even important, within that imaginative discovery, like you found a treasure no one else knew about. That was the charm that set Disney apart in my opinion.
I was a child in the 70s when TSI first opened...I spent many hours over there exploring over the years... It was absolutely magical... Less so on my last visit thenre in June to say goodbye... But is was always an amazing place... Now thewre is nothing to "discover" and if there is you will need to pre-plan your lightning lane fast pass to "discover" it with ten thousand other people...
 

Disstevefan1

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That's not splitting hairs on words. It's saying 2 very different things. There is a world of difference from knowing that in any construction project, final designs/as-built conditions can change, versus making the unsubstantiated statement that the design is "far from set."
I am sure Imagineering has wonderful, beautiful designs.

I have no faith that todays Disney will allow those wonderful, beautiful designs to be implemented without significant scope cuts to those wonderful, beautiful designs.

I hope I am wrong.

Lets see what we end up with in 3 to 5 years when its open for previews.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Were there Just a few days ago and we saw the same phenomenon: people actually singing along and clapping.
I haven’t seen too much of a drastic difference. The old show would have people clapping along as well.

Since I BEARly remember Vacation Hoedown and the Christmas show - it doesn’t seem odd to me for the bears to sing other songs. The bears never = the classic show until Disney got lazy and stopped rotating the shows.
 

JD80

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My theory - and would love to hear from insiders if I’m anywhere close or really far off -

The plan for Cars and Villians is far from set - and could even be drastically changed.

It made sense to make this decision while big thunder was down - and they knew that any future expansion would benefit from leveling the river so the last minute cars announcement was made as an excuse to start the plans into motion.

Wishful thinking, assuming you define "drastically changed" as in a completely new idea of a land and what's going in it.
 

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