Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Tha Realest]

Friday’s Fantastic Four came in below expectations. An 80% drop from last Friday’s numbers (Superman had a 70% drop between first and second Fridays).

 

[Serpico Jones]

Yikes.

 

[Tha Realest]

Yikes.

And here’s Collider, suggesting the glide path now looks similar to Captain America 4.

'The Fantastic Four: First Steps' Falters at the Domestic Box Office Amid Tough Competition

Three highly anticipated movies are breaking into an already packed box office this weekend, leading to some lower numbers for The Fantastic Four.

collider.com

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Muppets of marvel

Tag it and bag it

 

[Serpico Jones]

Budgets need to come down considerably and the distribution of content also needs to change.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Budgets need to come down considerably and the distribution of content also needs to change.

And we all want a toilet made of solid gold…

When have prices ever gone down?

On the list of issues they have…cost is not the #1

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Considering the hype and positive word of mouth from both critics and audiences, a 66% drop is awful.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Considering the hype and positive word of mouth from both critics and audiences, a 66% drop is awful.

That’s what is said everytime they post a flub.

Critics aren’t an effective predictor of success any more…

And audience scores can be…but it doesn’t cancel out if there’s another issue(s) going on that are bigger.

Seems pretty clear there are bigger issues going on

 

[Disney Irish]

That’s what is said everytime they post a flub.

Critics aren’t an effective predictor of success any more…

And audience scores can be…but it doesn’t cancel out if there’s another issue(s) going on that are bigger.

Seems pretty clear there are bigger issues going on

And those bigger issues aren't what I suspect you believe they are.

I know you hate it when I say it, but this is really indicative of the larger box office trend that has been happening all year.

When you have Bad Guys 2 in what was the "untouchable" non-Disney family space looking at opening just under its predecessor from 3 years ago (which was hamstrung by the still raw theatrical space post-pandemic so the sequel should be opening better) at just $23M you know things are bad at the box office. Same with Naked Gun which should have been a slam dunk, opening at what looks to be $16.5M, since people claim they want that type of humor out of Hollywood again. Both movies by the way got excellent audience scores, A and A- respectively.

So yeah there is a bigger issue going on, but I don't think its with the MCU here or at least that isn't the main issue. Its the larger issues with the box office as a whole, and to a minor extent I believe now the economy.

 

[Tha Realest]

And those bigger issues aren't what I suspect you believe they are.

I know you hate it when I say it, but this is really indicative of the larger box office trend that has been happening all year.

When you have Bad Guys 2 in what was the "untouchable" non-Disney family space looking at opening just under its predecessor from 3 years ago (which was hamstrung by the still raw theatrical space post-pandemic so the sequel should be opening better) at just $23M you know things are bad at the box office. Same with Naked Gun which should have been a slam dunk, opening at what looks to be $16.5M, since people claim they want that type of humor out of Hollywood again. Both movies by the way got excellent audience scores, A and A- respectively.

So yeah there is a bigger issue going on, but I don't think its with the MCU here or at least that isn't the main issue. Its the larger issues with the box office as a whole, and to a minor extent I believe now the economy.

Naked Gun, a slam dunk? An adult comedy with a new cast trying to revive a moribund franchise where the last film made a little over $100M over 30 years ago? A slam dunk? Who said that? You’re stretching more than Mr. Fantastic.

 

[Disney Irish]

Naked Gun, a slam dunk? An adult comedy with a new cast trying to revive a moribund franchise where the last film made a little over $100M over 30 years ago? A slam dunk? Who said that? You’re stretching more than Mr. Fantastic.

Yes, the type of comedy that many claim Hollywood doesn't know how to make anymore, the parody comedy. Because many claim that Hollywood is too serious and too "PC" to make it, so yeah it should have been a slam dunk.

Basically if a movie like that can't make money in this (and I hate to use this term) "anti-woke" world we live right now then you know there is a larger issue going on at the box office as a whole.

Liam Neeson Could Be Firing Blanks at the Box Office This Weekend With Worrying 'Naked Gun' Update

'The Naked Gun' has received some incredibly positive reviews, but even Liam Neeson's skills might not be enough to save him.

movieweb.com

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Naked Gun, a slam dunk? An adult comedy with a new cast trying to revive a moribund franchise where the last film made a little over $100M over 30 years ago? A slam dunk? Who said that? You’re stretching more than Mr. Fantastic.

…I hear it’s pretty good…don’t know how that translates to money…but a nice diversion.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Theatrical seems to mainly appeal to middle aged men. The way that content is distributed by Hollywood needs to change.

 

[Disney Irish]

Theatrical seems to mainly appeal to middle aged men. The way that content is distributed by Hollywood needs to change.

Do you have any data to back this up? As I think I read it’s actually 18-29 age bracket (split 45/55 women to men so almost even) that go to the movies the most.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Theatrical seems to mainly appeal to middle aged men.

Don’t talk about me like I’m not here.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Theatrical seems to mainly appeal to middle aged men. The way that content is distributed by Hollywood needs to change.

…like…how?

 

[CoastalElite64]

Superhero fatigue is a factor, streaming is a factor, and so is the bad economy.
Families still go to the movies, but not as often as before, because discretionary spending is down.

 

[Disney Irish]

Superhero fatigue is a factor, streaming is a factor, and so is the bad economy.
Families still go to the movies, but not as often as before, because discretionary spending is down.

I think there are a lot of factors not just one that some like to point to as "the" reason.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Superhero fatigue is a factor, streaming is a factor, and so is the bad economy.
Families still go to the movies, but not as often as before, because discretionary spending is down.

And MCU has been mismanaged for 5+ years…very hard to dispute that at this point (but the fools will try)

 

[Disney Irish]

And MCU has been mismanaged for 5+ years…very hard to dispute that at this point (but the fools will try)

And there it is on queue.

No one is disputing there haven’t been issues with the MCU. But to point to that as “the” reason ignores everything else that is happening at the box office with every other studio not named Disney.