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News Disney Lakeshore Lodge (Project 89 - Development near Fort Wilderness)
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TrainsOfDisney
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But the Polynesian tower doesn’t. I guess that keeps the dues down? So it’s a win?
BrianLo
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Indeed. I think that one is justifiably frustrating, but less than how frustrating a combined Fort and Lakeshore Lodge would be. Lakeshore Lodge is a way bigger room count resort than RIV (similar to Poly), but Fort Wilderness is a bigger resort than Grand Flo (a bit smaller than Caribbean beach).
In the end it skews more towards the total room count of RIV+Caribbean beach than Poly+Grand
But then both of the pre-existing options have two park non-bus high capacity transport solutions already. The last difference maker is, like Caribbean beach, it’s not merely a matter of two bus stops between two resorts.
I’d be very, very surprised if these are ultimately shared. I’m still highly dubious of any integration between these resorts, despite the more commonly held belief that the Cabins are going to be somehow strung into the Lakeshore Lodge DVC product. If the cash rooms and pool complex were cancelled it might have been different conversation.
TrainsOfDisney
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I’m guessing they will certainly share boat transportation if nothing else.
JohnD
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Looks so tranquil. 
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Latest Look at Ongoing Construction at Disney's Lakeshore Lodge
Latest Look at Ongoing Construction at Disney's Lakeshore Lodge
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Bocabear
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With it's proximity right between Wilderness Lodge, and Fort Wilderness it is kind of surprising that it favors neither...And it feels nothing like a "Lodge" in it's styling... Just a modern Marriott. Not sure why they could not have styled it to match or at least compliment the adjacent resorts.
JMcMahonEsq
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The Grand Floridian looks nothing like its adjacent property the Polynesian, which looks nothing like its adjacent property the Contemporary. There was no attempt to have an overarching theme/look to the original MK hotels, why would you think they would attempt to do so now?
Bocabear
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only because they all feel connected... Lakeshore Lodge looms over the settlement area of Fort Wilderness it is logistically the hotel portion of Fort Wilderness Camp Ground... So being right there, it might have been nice if the property felt like it belonged to the Settlement a bit more... Or even felt like a "lodge" VS any modern Lakefront Hotel... With the other two resorts flanking it designed to compliment each other...seems odd to then throw something completely unrelated in between....
K&KDizFreaks
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Those views from pioneer hall and inside Ft Wilderness are depressing. So sad. I don’t ever want to hear about Universal and sight line issues again. Pathetic and talentless people making design decisions at Disney. There was a time when everyone from top to bottom cared
prberk
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I cannot agree more. They don’t care. Period.
FiestaFunKid
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This is quite the monstrosity - 900 rooms stacked on top of each other? We still have to see the amenities and pool but do we think they will have trouble filling this if they go for premium rates?
Sure, Saratoga has 1200 rooms but their rates are very competitive (and more picturesque layout). This location, while attractive to some outdoorsy folks, makes it a very bus heavy travel resort, with a non-express boat to MK. Unless very competitively priced like Saratoga or OKW, it would be far down my list of places to stay.
Sure, Saratoga has 1200 rooms but their rates are very competitive (and more picturesque layout). This location, while attractive to some outdoorsy folks, makes it a very bus heavy travel resort, with a non-express boat to MK. Unless very competitively priced like Saratoga or OKW, it would be far down my list of places to stay.
I understand not liking the current hotel design choices but where does this Marriott/Hilton comparison come from? Most Marriotts could never compare to these hotels, courtyard, Fairfield, residence, etc. Maybe the Contemporary, Disneyland hotel, and Pixar Place could. Then you have the Grand Floridian that was heavily based off a Hilton in San Diego?
Horizons '83
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- In the Parks
- No
This might be the most over used comparator when discussing new Disney resorts. You can do better, and don't you tell me is Hilton better?
nickys
Premium Member
Both SSR and OKW are DVC resorts. A fraction of the rooms are booked through Disney, less than 5%. The “competitive price” makes little difference to the occupancy of either.
This resort is 50% DVC, 50% Disney. Although until it sells out Disney will have lots of DVC villas to book themselves. So the price will be important. That said, there hasn’t been an issue with Riviera - which I believe we is now fully declared.
And with a lazy river included in the pool complex, this will likely book pretty easily, even at deluxe prices.
Since the reboot of this resort, has Disney ever verified it will be half and half DVC / Disney? I have been watching and have not seen anything definitive.
Bocabear
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It reminds me of a Fairfield or modern Marriott Hotel...Now that Marriott has eaten up most hotel brands on the planet, there is little else to compare to...lol It looks more like an Aloft than a Hilton Garden Inn...I don't know....It does not look like what you picture in your mind for a Lakeside Lodge.... well not my mind anyway... It just looks like a normal big modern hotel...full stop.This might be the most over used comparator when discussing new Disney resorts. You can do better, and don't you tell me is Hilton better?
Horizons '83
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Have you stayed at a Fairfield? Come on now, unless you have some deluxe Fairfields where you are, you can't compare the two.
I completely get that the theming of Disney hotels is poor compared to the heyday of the 1980's and 1990's, no doubt about that, but I think they are still much better as a whole compared to a run of the mill Marriott.
FiestaFunKid
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Just out of curiosity - since Saratoga/OKW villas are seemingly always available to book direct from Disney (much greater availability than Poly, Bay Lake, BW, BC, etc) - how are we confirming only 5% are booked outside of DVC? Are they contractually required to allocate 95% to DVC irrespective of fill rate - or can they sell a greater percentage direct vs letting them sit unfilled?
If not, the lower point charts at OKW and Saratoga are relevant vs what are are likely to see here.
Disstevefan1
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I agree, a deluxe Fairfield is better than what they will deliver here
nickys
Premium Member
Yes they have.
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