HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

no.swatz

no.swatz

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I have a small feeling that HKDL is slowly bringing PTN back. In 2024, they had the cast celebration "Echoes of Enchantment", and that section featured projection mapping for the "When can I see you again?" portion. They have reused this exact same projection mapping for their 2025 New Year's Eve Countdown. I don't see why they just randomly made a "light-inspired" projection for the castle for 2 shows. This could potentially serve as a beautiful backdrop while Paint the Night runs. Again, just speculation, but I'm still manifesting for this parade to be back!!!!
 
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walt-e

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Disneyland Paris kept most of the floats from the Fantillusion for years after it ended and they were also shown in documentaries. So I wouldn’t take the fact that Pain the night floats are still there as a guarantee it’ll return.

Same for the projections on “When can I see you again”. Other Disney parks are quite often creating projections that are only used once or twice and quite often making reference to parade from the past.

I obviously know nothing about Hong Kong Disneyland’s plans to bring Paint the Night back or not and I’d love to be proven wrong but what I do know is that nothing we’ve seen so far is actually hinting at its return…
 
no.swatz

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You are right lol. I just miss the parade a lot and I feel like this would serve as an excellent nighttime entertainment once the 20th anniversary is over. Perhaps they didn't want to bring it back during 20th anniversary because Disneyland has it too?
 
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LameBoi

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HKDL confirmed they will be debt free by the end of the year. Also announced that the creative for Spider-Man is almost complete. Ground has already broken for both Pixar and Spider-Man with Pixar opening first.

news.rthk.hk

HK Disneyland 'to be debt-free by end of fiscal year' - RTHK

Hong Kong Disneyland will be debt-free by the end of this year, its managing director declared, after fully paying off term loans from the SAR governm...
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no.swatz

no.swatz

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LameBoi said:
HKDL confirmed they will be debt free by the end of the year. Also announced that the creative for Spider-Man is almost complete. Ground has already broken for both Pixar and Spider-Man with Pixar opening first.

news.rthk.hk

HK Disneyland 'to be debt-free by end of fiscal year' - RTHK

Hong Kong Disneyland will be debt-free by the end of this year, its managing director declared, after fully paying off term loans from the SAR governm...
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Adding that the Sec. of Leisure and Tourism mentioned that the new Marvel-expansion will include multiple attractions (she described it as like "World of Frozen"; which has a major attraction, and follow up attractions), this is particularly interesting to me on how long it will take them to finish this expansion. I have a feeling that this entire expansion land will open before 2028.
 
no.swatz

no.swatz

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infloencer said:
Does anyone know how long Spider Man could take? What was the construction schedule for the other towers around the world?
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Honestly, no idea. They have to build the entire "skyscraper" from scratch, and there are accompanying buildings beside it. So, probably 3-ish, 4-ish years?
 
no.swatz

no.swatz

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Tbh we cannot just assume it's just a drop-tower ride. I mean, although the concept art does show a drop-tower looking thing, it feels kinda boring if Disney just carbon copy a TOT with a different layout... But again, if this is really just a TOT ride, then it kinda makes sense for HK to recieve it, given that the other Avengers Campuses have TOTs right beside them. Honestly, they should use a ride system similar to Battle at the Ministry. It's basically the WEB SLINGERS ride vehicle on steroids. It can simulate drops too.. just sayin.
 
BrianLo

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It will be interesting to see how a separately capitalized offshoot (with actual capital inflow) starts to operate and invest.

The one thing they cannot do is launch another gate without major capital injection. But a steady stream of investment could be achievable.
 
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LameBoi

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If Spider-Man if going to be Frozenesque, there is a real possibility that the theater will be gone and the train berm will be turned into a bridge to create a large entryway. Maybe add a Tomorrowland train station?

I do hope that we get more info in a month’s time at Destination D23.
 
Supersnow84

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They 100% need to give it another entrance from the main part of Tomorrowland

Just using that tiny corner next to Ironman would be a guest flow nightmare and really make it hard to see your premiere new attraction

A courtyard hosting a e ticket should not be in a thin dead end hallway
 
no.swatz

no.swatz

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Supersnow84 said:
They 100% need to give it another entrance from the main part of Tomorrowland

Just using that tiny corner next to Ironman would be a guest flow nightmare and really make it hard to see your premiere new attraction

A courtyard hosting a e ticket should not be in a thin dead end hallway
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Exactly. They have to 100% remove that stage that sits between Hyperspace and the expo shop.
 
Supersnow84

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i know I being this topic up a lot but I do really wonder what’s next. The park really seems to be entering a positive feedback loop where more building attracts more people which leads to more money leading to more attractions but they are running out of space

After these two are done then east of grizzly is the only expansion pad left and it remains to be seen if they have enough money to fund a full expansion since Pixar entertainment is still an unknown and the spider man TOT is still using money from the 2016 expansion plans that built frozen and the castle.

They also can’t afford to rest long, Shanghai is drowning in cash to expand any which way they want and the chimelong brand is expanding heavily all over guandong
 
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LameBoi

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Supersnow84 said:
i know I being this topic up a lot but I do really wonder what’s next. The park really seems to be entering a positive feedback loop where more building attracts more people which leads to more money leading to more attractions but they are running out of space

After these two are done then east of grizzly is the only expansion pad left and it remains to be seen if they have enough money to fund a full expansion since Pixar entertainment is still an unknown and the spider man TOT is still using money from the 2016 expansion plans that built frozen and the castle.

They also can’t afford to rest long, Shanghai is drowning in cash to expand any which way they want and the chimelong brand is expanding heavily all over guandong
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I think there are already signs that point to what they plan to do next. There are 2 attractions right now that are closed that don’t seem to be under refurbishment: Tarzan’s Treehouse and Orbitron. Both of them had already gone through refurbishment last year and are closed again for “operational adjustments”. Orbitron being down could signal an update coming to the entirety of Tomorrowland. Meanwhile, the plot next to Grizzly is the most logical expansion left like you pointed out. Since HKDL once planned to build a Splash Mountain or Pirates flume ride, maybe they could build the state of the art Moana flume ride that was Blueskyed for WDW Animal Kingdom. Public patents revealed that the flumes for a conceptual Moana ride could rotate around its axis, similar to the movements of Shanghai Pirates. Moana could be a possibility since Tahitian Terrace is currently closed undergoing a refurbishment. It is thought it would be rethemed to Moana since they placed Moana style signage on construction walls so it would make sense to also have a Moana ride to go along with the restaurant.
 

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