Walt Disney – A Magical Life

[aladdin2007]

Hmm, it does make me wonder the process involved. Did they decide on all of the facial movements needed first, then later on try to mold a face onto that infrastructure needed and that's the issue?

I mean there's two ways they could have gone about it. Decide on the face shape, then figure out what can fit and what movements they can achieve or decide what movements they want first, then decide how the face can look on top. (Realistically though it probably went through a ton of revisions back and forth in the process)

Im sure it did, it's just I haven't seen anything about them touting or praising a artist or sculptor.

 

[dlr74]

Apparently the show has been down today for technical issues and they're cancelling the Cast Member preview time slots

 

[Professortango1]

Apparently the show has been down today for technical issues and they're cancelling the Cast Member preview time slots

Wailt Dasney's gone rogue!

 

[FettFan]

Apparently the show has been down today for technical issues and they're cancelling the Cast Member preview time slots

Did Walt eat any tourists?

 

[Incomudro]

"Where nothing, nothing can possibly go wrong, go wrong, go wrong..."

 

[JohnD]

Apparently the show has been down today for technical issues and they're cancelling the Cast Member preview time slots

Walt 2.0 with a fake lapel mic added to his suit lapel and full audio broadcast through all speakers coming soon! (Hope)

 

[JohnD]

The Trump AA is a solid improvement but at its core still looks very robotic. The Walt AA is the first I’ve seen that actually could pass for a human in some moments.

Not much was required of the Trump AA. Just a few moves while saying the oath of office and giving a thumbs up. At least they got his face right.

With Walt, solid smooth movements, tinny audio, and let's face it, they need to do an about face on his face. I think the movements and his actual words help the viewer get "lost" in the experience. But being Walt, nothing less than getting his AA right the first time was demanded and fell short.

 

[Yidsid2020]

I just saw the full animatronic portion (not sure if that footage is public yet).

Iger's voice immediately made me roll my eyes and view the whole thing through a more cynical lense- it's almost like this is a puff piece for Iger. Something for him to go "look, I brought him back to life, I'm just like him aren't I?"

That said, the animatronic is incredible but horrifying. It moves TOO realistically. He also looks a little fat in the neck and his mouth looks slightly too wide, maybe because of the mechanics, but the voice is spot on- given that it's all recordings of him, it should be. Not sure where the complaints about the voice are coming from. This is 100% a win for the advancement of AA technology- but again, kinda freaky to see a dead man brought back to life in a way that's just slightly off from how he looked in person... all to boost the ego of a man who wishes he was 1% as creative and positively impactful to this world as Walt was.

This plus the museum exhibit also makes me sad, because the WED/WDI that Walt started is not what we have today. Seeing all the concept art and vintage AAs for wholly original ideas and then all the modern art shown with it was for IP only stuff... it's not the same as what Walt did and it's silly to pretend Imagineering today is the same as it was in the 50s and 60s. (Also crazy to see FOUR pieces of concept art for Splash Mountain along with art of the Brers on a park map)

They are going to keep going. Maybe if we're lucky, someone on the team who were hired to create the display, will gleam through all of these posted comments and first accept what the display's head is off. Then, they can go out and find someone who can sculpt Walt Disney's head perfectly in clay to get the positive they need to be as good as any one of three heads they have on display at Disneyland of the three presidents in that front case. Now those three look spot on (President Reagan is excellent). The eyebrows are wrong, the mustache is wrong, head is wrong to fit the eyes, profile is incorrect, complete shape of the head is off. They do have the right idea on most of the movements of the body, except for the left arm. The advancements are amazing. Maybe they can come up with better choreography of the movements to possibly look similar to the way Walt appeared when he was introducing EPCOT. Plain facts, they missed the mark on the face as a whole.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Point being, I think the sculptors at work will do a fine job of getting Walt's likeness. Probably helps they have his frozen head to cast a death mask out of.

Apparently not. Maybe they lost his head?

 

[Phroobar]

They also changed Lincoln's voice several years ago and no one batted an eye

No one live has heard Lincoln's voice.

 

[Disone]

It's funny when people comment on jobs they don't do like they're experts.

Oh come on man. uncalled for.

This is clearly a theme park forum talking about a theme park attraction. You don't need to be an expert to have an opinion and express it especially in a forum like this.

 

[Disone]

What would you have any of us do? Boycott? Would that really change anything, no. Disney is going to do what Disney is going to do, and either we accept it or we sit on a forum and complain. There is little other recourse for the few dozen people here discussing it.

So no we sit here for page after page complaining, and nothing else.

I don't see anyone calling for a boycott. I think his point is that a population here just accepts that this is the absolute best Disney could have done simply because Disney did it.

You can be critical of Disney without believing it's time to boycott all things Disney. There's definitely Middle ground there

 

[Disney Irish]

I don't see anyone calling for a boycott. I think his point is that a population here just accepts that this is the absolute best Disney could have done simply because Disney did it.

You can be critical of Disney without believing it's time to boycott all things Disney. There's definitely Middle ground there

Except if you read what the poster said it came across as everyone here is just "settling" and I don't think that is happening at all. I think people are discussing it and trying to come up with explanations, but I don't think anyone is really saying "this is the best Disney could do". In fact I don't think I've seen one poster even post anything close to that. So to come in and say that posters are "settling" is disingenuous, which is why I asked what they wanted us to do as if they expected pitchforks and rioting.

This whole thread is the middle ground already, so yeah don't know what more the poster wanted.

 

[DarkMetroid567]

Oh come on man. uncalled for.

This is clearly a theme park forum talking about a theme park attraction. You don't need to be an expert to have an opinion and express it especially in a forum like this.

See, I fully believe we can opine on art even without working in that profession, but there’s a line.

The person you replied to replied to a message that basically insinuated that WDI chose to cheap out or didn’t bother doing the best work they could. Those kinds of claims you don’t get to make if you don’t have inside experience.

 

[flynnibus]

In fact I don't think I've seen one poster even post anything close to that

Several have...

 

[Disney Irish]

Several have...

Several is not some large acceptance as was original insinuated. Also I think some are confusing people being genuine with their opinion about the technological advancements being impressive as somehow equaling "this is the best Disney could do" with regards to the face mold, which is not the case at all.

People are allowed to have opinions on either side of this without someone coming in and making claims that somehow the whole thread is now accepting and settling. Maybe this comes on top of other recent decisions by Disney and it caused the poster to blowup in this thread, but its hardly fair to put everyone here into the same bucket as if somehow there is some consensus of "its ok, lets move on" which clearly never happened.

 

[flynnibus]

People are allowed to have opinions on either side of this without someone coming in and making claims that somehow the whole thread is now accepting and settling. Maybe this comes on top of other recent decisions by Disney and it caused the poster to blowup in this thread, but its hardly fair to put everyone here into the same bucket as if somehow there is some consensus of "its ok, lets move on" which clearly never happened.

One hyperbolic claim doesn't justify another though..

 

[Disney Irish]

One hyperbolic claim doesn't justify another though..

And yet instead of addressing the original hyperbolic claim you’re addressing me. So I don’t really understand this exchange. Maybe take it up with the original poster, as I’m of the opinion that the majority of this thread thinks that Disney did a bad job on the face mold here including me. So it’s clear there isn’t some widespread acceptance and settling going on here as the poster claimed. So again I say take it up with them.

 

[Disone]

Except if you read what the poster said it came across as everyone here is just "settling" and I don't think that is happening at all. I think people are discussing it and trying to come up with explanations, but I don't think anyone is really saying "this is the best Disney could do". In fact I don't think I've seen one poster even post anything close to that. So to come in and say that posters are "settling" is disingenuous, which is why I asked what they wanted us to do as if they expected pitchforks and rioting.

This whole thread is the middle ground already, so yeah don't know what more the poster wanted.

I read that post "settling settling settling" .

It is not disingenuous nor is it the same thing as calling for a pitchforks and boycotts. His opinion that many are settling. Just as it is your opinion that they're not settling but instead they are trying to explain the difficulties of making this.

That's a fine line.

Your opinion is that no one is saying this is the best Disney can do. Okay.

Me? I am of the opinion That if they were going to do this they absolutely needed to nail it and they didn't.

I would suggest that perhaps they should have delayed the opening until they could have put out a Walt Disney AA that literally was the best they can do.

 

[Tha Realest]

Sculpting for life figures is not some dead art. And Disney is supposed to be the most premiere company in the world when it comes to this technology. Disney can't figure out how to contract someone? They didn't have a problem doing so when it comes to painting rocks realistically..

This is a great point:

With Monsters Unleashed, has Universal surpassed WDI in the AA game?