Universe Of Energy, 1996-2009 color scheme question.

HMF

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In 1996 when the original Universe Of Energy became Ellen's Energy Adventure, The original "radiating energy" motif color scheme of red, orange and yellow was replaced with a rainbow-style color scheme which lasted until 2009 when the original scheme returned. A friend of mine posed an interesting theory to me recently. Do you think that since the pavilion was adding Ellen DeGeneres who was one of the first openly lesbian TV stars and the rainbow is associated with gay pride. Was the 1996-2009 UOE color scheme an early pride statement from Disney or was it just a coincidence?
 

LittleBuford

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I think people forget (or don't realise) how mainstream it was to be homophobic in the 1990s. Disney as a company has never been more progressive than public opinion would tolerate, and public opinion would never have tolerated such a gesture at that time (leaving aside the fact that it was, as others have pointed out, just a coincidence):

 
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Sir_Cliff

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I think people forget (or don't realise) how mainstream it was to be homophobic in the 1990s. Disney as a company has never been more progressive than public opinion would tolerate, and public opinion would never have tolerated such a gesture at that time (leaving aside the fact that it was, as others have pointed out, just a coincidence):

Indeed. Disney was relatively progressive in some respects, but I have a very clear memory of Michael Eisner being asked a question about the Southern Baptist boycott of Disney at an interview during the opening of Animal Kingdom in 1998 and him referring to the company extending health benefits to employees "of similar persuasion."
 

Goofyernmost

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I'm going by memory here so accuracy might be questionable, however, I don't think the "rainbow" thing was a thing at that time. The happened in far more recent times. I don't remember it until around the Obama time (early 2000's).

Or perhaps living in Vermont at the time, we were not always in line with the rest of the country. For example men's shirts came in two colors... Bleeding Madras (casual, went with pegged ivy league pants and penny loafer shoes) and White for anything above casual. When we were proudly sporting that stuff, the rest of the country was around 10 years ahead.
 

John park hopper

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I'm going by memory here so accuracy might be questionable, however, I don't think the "rainbow" thing was a thing at that time. The happened in far more recent times. I don't remember it until around the Obama time (early 2000's).

Or perhaps living in Vermont at the time, we were not always in line with the rest of the country. For example men's shirts came in two colors... Bleeding Madras (casual, went with pegged ivy league pants and penny loafer shoes) and White for anything above casual. When we were proudly sporting that stuff, the rest of the country was around 10 years ahead.
I remember the madras shirts and pegged pants in the mid 60's group. We also had the greasers guys with the hot rod cars. I was a greaser had my 56 chevy hot rod 2dr, 327 engine, Hurst floor shifter, slick back hair, lucky strikes rolled in my white T shirt sleeve, pegged pants, black pointy shoes --had a name for they won't post not PC something fence climbers. Look at old pictures and laugh --what was I thinking --Uncle Sam's draft straightened me out
 

mergatroid

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I remember the madras shirts and pegged pants in the mid 60's group. We also had the greasers guys with the hot rod cars. I was a greaser had my 56 chevy hot rod 2dr, 327 engine, Hurst floor shifter, slick back hair, lucky strikes rolled in my white T shirt sleeve, pegged pants, black pointy shoes --had a name for they won't post not PC something fence climbers. Look at old pictures and laugh --what was I thinking --Uncle Sam's draft straightened me out
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Goofyernmost

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I remember the madras shirts and pegged pants in the mid 60's group. We also had the greasers guys with the hot rod cars. I was a greaser had my 56 chevy hot rod 2dr, 327 engine, Hurst floor shifter, slick back hair, lucky strikes rolled in my white T shirt sleeve, pegged pants, black pointy shoes --had a name for they won't post not PC something fence climbers. Look at old pictures and laugh --what was I thinking --Uncle Sam's draft straightened me out
I had a 1960, Black and White topped, Plymouth Station Wagon, three on the tree, manual choke and a slant 6 engine. A real chick magnet! When you went to a gas station you filled it up with oil and checked the gas. It did have cool fins and a rectangular steering wheel so I had that going for me. Plus I was pretty much the only Junior in HS with a car, so that helped. Combine that with the Madras shirts, pegged pants and penny loafers and you have a bonified 00 spy persona. At least in my mind! The draft had a profound affect on all of us. I missed out on all the cool late 60's stuff like long hair, etc. but 2 years after I was discharged, I grew a full beard and I have had it ever since. Talk about your rebel!!

By the time that I graduated from HS I had upgraded to a 1961, canary yellow, Buick Skylark, convertible. Automatic, V-6, retched, Aluminum block engine and the top had to be put up and down manually. Started College with a Black, VW Beetle. I don't remember what year it was but whatever it was it had the manifold heater that left your right leg with blisters and the rest of you frozen. In the winter, in Vermont, you had to carry your windshield scrapper up front, inside to clean the frost off as you drove along because if it had a windshield defroster it was useless. By graduation from College I had a 1962 Chevy Impala, Automatic with 283 V-8. Actually loved that car but while attending Tech school in Denver, they were sending people almost exclusively to Europe, for some reason, and it was being sorted out, there would be three going overseas and one staying stateside and the flight just before me stayed in the states. In the meantime a friend of my Father's asked my dad if I was willing to sell it. Since I was sure that I was going overseas I said yes. Two weeks later I got my orders for Niagara Falls, NY and had to buy a car that had been sitting in a farmers yard for two years because it skipped badly and no one could figure out why. It was, a straight six. We jumped the battery and it fired up, skipping wildly, but started immediately. It was also a 1962 and when we got it home we took the valve cover off and one of the rocker arms had become loose. We put the rocker arm adjuster nut back on, finger tight and like magic the skipping stopped. Cars were so much simpler back then. Eight months later I got orders to Bien Hoa, Vietnam and just sold it before I left. Except for the Impala I wasn't overly enamored by any of the others.
 
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LittleBuford

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I'm going by memory here so accuracy might be questionable, however, I don't think the "rainbow" thing was a thing at that time. The happened in far more recent times. I don't remember it until around the Obama time (early 2000's).

Or perhaps living in Vermont at the time, we were not always in line with the rest of the country. For example men's shirts came in two colors... Bleeding Madras (casual, went with pegged ivy league pants and penny loafer shoes) and White for anything above casual. When we were proudly sporting that stuff, the rest of the country was around 10 years ahead.
Its symbolism may not have been as widely understood, but it was definitely a thing, with a history going back to the late 1970s. This from the NYT in 1994: “Five years in planning, the official march was led by a milelong, 30-foot-wide, rainbow-colored flag intended to symbolize gay and lesbian unity.”


And this is how Matthew Shepard was commemorated after his horrific homophobic murder:

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Goofyernmost

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Its symbolism may not have been as widely understood, but it was definitely a thing, with a history going back to the late 1970s. This from the NYT in 1994: “Five years in planning, the official march was led by a milelong, 30-foot-wide, rainbow-colored flag intended to symbolize gay and lesbian unity.”


And this is how Matthew Shepard was commemorated after his horrific homophobic murder:

181011-matthew-shepard-memorial-1998-ew-1134a.jpg




Thank you, I stand corrected.
 

Smiley/OCD

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FWIW, I got my drivers license in 1981… ALL my classmates had this rainbow on their rear window (where the third light would be)…it was the IN thing to display on your car, no connotation to sexual orientation. I had one on my car, it was almost like a right of passage ( kinda like hanging your graduation tassle from your rear view mirror)
 

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Club Cooloholic

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Its symbolism may not have been as widely understood, but it was definitely a thing, with a history going back to the late 1970s. This from the NYT in 1994: “Five years in planning, the official march was led by a milelong, 30-foot-wide, rainbow-colored flag intended to symbolize gay and lesbian unity.”


And this is how Matthew Shepard was commemorated after his horrific homophobic murder:

181011-matthew-shepard-memorial-1998-ew-1134a.jpg


Agreed. The Rainbow flag has been around decades.
 

Goofyernmost

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FWIW, I got my drivers license in 1981… ALL my classmates had this rainbow on their rear window (where the third light would be)…it was the IN thing to display on your car, no connotation to sexual orientation. I had one on my car, it was almost like a right of passage ( kinda like hanging your graduation tassle from your rear view mirror)
I have to admit even that usage is news to me. I got my license in 1964 on my 16th birthday, so I pre-licensed almost 20 years before you did.
 

The Empress Lilly

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EPCOT has a long history of rainbow aesthetics. The Fab Five space suits, ImageWorks rainbow corridor, the Horizons rainbow exit. I think they draw more from each other's aestetic than from ideology. Often the rainbows have been later additions, possibly in EPCOT's permanent attempts to make the park more relatable, cuter, cartoonish, more Disney, more colourful.

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Goofyernmost

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For a large portion of my life the rainbow was a symbol of natures beauty. At least in my world. Now it is an identity of a particular message of diversity. If it could only be achieved by words and a colorful symbol wouldn't it be nice? Now it just seems like it is a trigger for the never ending human flaw of never being able to let other people live differently than themselves. Currently the beauty of it when it was mostly just a nature at its best is overshadowed by the basic evil that is the human being. If we could ever get to a point when mankind can back off the tendency to judge others, wouldn't it actually be a wonderful world instead of just a song about a dream?
 

Castle Cake Apologist

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FWIW, I got my drivers license in 1981… ALL my classmates had this rainbow on their rear window (where the third light would be)…it was the IN thing to display on your car, no connotation to sexual orientation. I had one on my car, it was almost like a right of passage ( kinda like hanging your graduation tassle from your rear view mirror)

To be fair, that isn't a pride rainbow. It's not even a standard rainbow.
 

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