DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[ToTBellHop]

Toy Story land is kinda the prototype for “underbuilt” land…isn’t it?

It has a flat ride, dark ride, coaster, dining (QSR and TSR) and merch. In theory, it is the complete package but somehow they are still completing it 7 years later to make up for WDI forgetting it would operate in Florida.

Thank goodness everything in Monstropolis will be indoors.

 

[lazyboy97o]

And nothing SHOULD be sacred. Disney, and any theme park really, is not in the museum business.

And yet the themed entertainment business is so much in the museum business that the annual attendance estimates are reported in the TEA Theme & Museum Index. This dumb mantra misses the experience goals of both theme parks and museums.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It has a flat ride, dark ride, coaster, dining (QSR and TSR) and merch. In theory, it is the complete package but somehow they are still completing it 7 years later to make up for WDI forgetting it would operate in Florida.

Thank goodness everything in Monstropolis will be indoors.

I guess on paper it checks the boxes?

Maybe I should say “under quality”

Does it really give off more appeal than chested and Hester? And two of 3 rides are pretty inadequate for the needs to be a big draw. Haven’t been to the bbq…but I notice ressies are readily available…so not sure what’s going on there?

 

[solidyne]

Can you use sentences please?

I will write as I like... great comeback.

Is it odd that I support both of these posts?

 

[JD80]

Is it odd that I support both of these posts?

His quoted post was actually a sentence so not too odd.

 

[Bocabear]

His quoted post was actually a sentence so not too odd.

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[Sirwalterraleigh]

I know, but Ratatouille was also designed to be an E ticket (apparently, even though I would have assumed it was classified as a D).

I don’t get why people say this? The whole “E ticket” moniker is simply what we diehards now assign to wait times…it’s no longer about ingeniuity, uniqueness, or longterm draw.

Rat is a clone of a trackless…which do not play by the definition of “e ticket” as was assign to Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom. It does meet the “long lines due to lack of capacity and park decay” definition though

Beastly Kingdom would have been much better!

Let that one go, Elsa

 

[The Leader of the Club]

Rat is a clone of a trackless…which do not play by the definition of “e ticket” as was assign to Disneyland and the Magic Kingdom. It does meet the “long lines due to lack of capacity and park decay” definition though

I don’t understand what you mean by this.
Of course no E-tickets were trackless, that wasn’t a thing when those were around. As for clones; POTC, Jungle Cruise, Mansion, and Small World were all MK E-tickets cloned from Disneyland.

If Ratatouille isn’t an E, what in EPCOT is?
Guardians, Test Track, Soarin, Frozen?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t understand what you mean by this.
Of course no E-tickets were trackless, that wasn’t a thing when those were around. As for clones; POTC, Jungle Cruise, Mansion, and Small World were all MK E-tickets cloned from Disneyland.

If Ratatouille isn’t an E, what in EPCOT is?
Guardians, Test Track, Soarin, Frozen?

Their trackless are super dull. Based on the technology…they underwhelm. They’re all short and lack any sort of excitement…really

Epcot is not a ride park…so really the only E’s I can confidently see are test track and guardians

And it’s not just about speed…it’s really things that aren’t a take on an elaborate dark ride

Frozen is kinda Peter Pan…I guess you could give it the label? Soarin is interesting…not sure what it is?

 

[MisterPenguin]

If y'all gonna argue about what's an E-Ticket, start here to check if one's assumptions of its history and usage is correct.

And perhaps go to a thread for which such arguments are on-topic.

Post in thread 'A-E TICKET ATTRACTIONS'

May 11, 2018

I was looking at images of old tickets on the internet and thought to compile... a chart! Some of the rides changed level over times, some changed several times. A few seems to me were downgraded simply because they became older and were outshone by new attractions. One seemed to jump up the scales simply because of how low the ride's capacity was and they wanted to limit guests. The online record is incomplete year-to-year, but I believe I have enough data. The list indicates where the ride started and changes in tiers over time. I started the year after the E-Ticket was first...

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[Disgruntled Walt]

Let that one go, Elsa

NEVER!

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No need to argue about E ticket classification…it’s been 100% opinion for like 45 years

 

[UNCgolf]

I don’t get why people say this? The whole “E ticket” moniker is simply what we diehards now assign to wait times…it’s no longer about ingeniuity, uniqueness, or longterm draw.

It's because Disney (and others) still classify rides that way internally when they're in development (presumably related to scope, budget, etc.), and they classified Ratatouille as an E. They intended it to be an E-ticket level attraction.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's because Disney (and others) still classify rides that way internally when they're in development, and they classified Ratatouille as an E.

You mean at dorkcon?

Why would they do that…I wonder?

My guess is just to froth up the vloggers and podders

Rat has a big line…there’s still not a lot in the park to gobble people up…so that kinda seems like the modern definition of “E ticket”?

 

[UNCgolf]

You mean at dorkcon?

Why would they do that…I wonder?

My guess is just to froth up the vloggers and podders

Rat has a big line…there’s still not a lot in the park to gobble people up…so that kinda seems like the modern definition of “E ticket”?

No, internally as part of the design process. Not talking about anything said publicly.

That's the only reason I mentioned it at all, because they developed Ratatouille as an E and developed NRJ as a C internally, and yet I think NRJ is a better attraction without even grading on a scale.

We're far afield from the point of the thread now, though.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No, internally as part of the design process. Not talking about anything said publicly.

That's the only reason I mentioned it at all, because they developed Ratatouille as an E and developed NRJ as a C internally, and yet I think NRJ is a better attraction without even grading on a scale.

We're far afield from the point of the thread now, though.

You mean WDI jibberish? Yeah…I know they use those terms…but what’s the actual basis for it? Not really anything except bloat in the design process…from what it seems…

But ok

I don’t know why you love Na’vi? It’s just “ok”…but if I remember correctly…you don’t like simulators, speed, turns, etc? More of an ambience guy

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Does it really give off more appeal than chested and Hester?

Yes because….. slinky dog is like dumbo. On paper it’s “just a coaster” with exposed track and everything. But just like dumbo there is some Disney magic about that dog moving along the track.

Should the land be better? Absolutely. Al’s toy barn and the terrain elements would have helped a lot.

But I do rank it better than Chester for sure.

 

[eddie104]

Still don’t understand the TSL hate but maybe I’m missing something.

I feel it suffers from two of the cardinal sins of modern Disney lands

How do you feel about Fantasy Springs in Tokyo ??

 

[ToTBellHop]

Still don’t understand the TSL hate but maybe I’m missing something.

How do you feel about Fantasy Springs in Tokyo ??

I don’t hate TSL at all. It is too hot in the summer. Probably should have enclosed Saucers. The lighting would work better and it would feel more Pizza Planety.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Still don’t understand the TSL hate but maybe I’m missing something.

How do you feel about Fantasy Springs in Tokyo ??

I think TSL is a solid land with good theming, a variety or ride types, quick service and table service good, etc

I think it has some issues - lack of shade being the biggest. Also think could have got a only area or water play area or something in there to really round it out. But, other than the shade issue, probably one of the areas that needs updates the least