MK Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

[Brer Panther]

@Fox&Hound, I think this page can explain:

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[MR.Dis]

That would be WICKED.

correct, which I do not like. Saw the movie and the play.

 

[Bocabear]

So....anyway, anyone heard any more about this Villain's Land?

 

[MR.Dis]

Best not to talk about religion or politics on these boards---No one wins and it can just get the forum shut down.

 

[Baloo124]

Best not to talk about religion or politics on these boards

Just as I was about to write several paragraphs explaining why Frollo and Palpatine were misunderstood and both of their rises to power were completely deserved.

 

[Bleed0range]

Still think it is a mistake to not build a 5th gate with this idea integrated in it. Epic Universe solidified my opinion.

 

[James Alucobond]

Still think it is a mistake to not build a 5th gate with this idea integrated in it. Epic Universe solidified my opinion.

“It is a mistake to not overextend themselves while most of the existing parks remain underbuilt.”

‘Kay.

 

[Bleed0range]

“It is a mistake to not overextend themselves while most of the existing parks remaining underbuilt.”

‘Kay.

There is nothing they’re doing that is magically making the existing parks “better.” They’re just replacing existing stuff with new stuff.

And the parks are becoming sickeningly overcrowded.

 

[peter11435]

Still think it is a mistake to not build a 5th gate with this idea integrated in it. Epic Universe solidified my opinion.

A 5th gate would make zero sense.

 

[Bleed0range]

A 5th gate would make zero sense.

Is that your actual opinion or just a talking point you like to repeat. I’ve heard that, but I disagree. They take zero advantage of the land they have for any kind of expansions and the parks are so overcrowded that it’s making the experience worse and worse.

 

[James Alucobond]

There is nothing they’re doing that is magically making the existing parks “better.” They’re just replacing existing stuff with new stuff.

Some projects are expansions (like this one) while others are replacements. Regardless, the solution is not to make another half-day park.

 

[Bleed0range]

Some projects are expansions (like this one) while others are replacements. Regardless, the solution is not to make another half-day park.

Disagree. It could solve the over crowding of the existing parks problem. But I’m also incredibly salty about ROA.

 

[peter11435]

Is that your actual opinion or just a talking point you like to repeat. I’ve heard that, but I disagree. They take zero advantage of the land they have for any kind of expansions and the parks are so overcrowded that it’s making the experience worse and worse.

It’s an economic fact.

Some of their current and recent projects have been expansions, some have expanded capacity, some have increased utilization, and others have simply been replacements.

Building a fifth park won’t do anything to “magically make the existing parks better.” It will drastically increase costs and expenses and dilute revenue.

 

[peter11435]

Disagree. It could solve the over crowding of the existing parks problem. But I’m also incredibly salty about ROA.

Making the existing parks less profitable is not going to lead to any long term improvements in the parks or their operation.

 

[James Alucobond]

Disagree. It could solve the over crowding of the existing parks problem. But I’m also incredibly salty about ROA.

Overcrowding will persist. If it steals attendance, it will pull from non-MK gates, which are already the less overcrowded options.

Also, whether or not they currently replace more than they meaningfully expand is irrelevant to the discussion. Both suggestions (that they build a fifth gate vs. expanding at existing underbuilt gates using the same imagined pot of cash) are largely hypothetical, so why dig into the likelihood of one over the other? Your suggestion is massively MORE unlikely. It’s just about which as guests we’d prefer.

 

[Bleed0range]

Overcrowding will persist. If it steals attendance, it will pull from non-MK gates, which are already the less overcrowded options.

Also, whether or not they currently replace more than they meaningfully expand is irrelevant to the discussion. Both suggestions (that they build a fifth gate vs. expanding at existing underbuilt gates using the same imagined pot of cash) are largely hypothetical, so why dig into the likelihood of one over the other? Your suggestion is massively MORE unlikely. It’s just about which as guests we’d prefer.

On the flip side a truly great idea could revitalize the entire resort and attract more attendance and reassert Disney’s dominance after Epic Universe.

 

[James Alucobond]

On the flip side a truly great idea could revitalize the entire resort and attract more attendance and reassert Disney’s dominance after Epic Universe.

This presupposes it even needs to be reasserted. I’m not saying there won’t be a shift because I’m not a time traveler, but the park isn’t even open yet.

 

[Bleed0range]

I will yield that Disney should utilize some unused space first. Like Animation courtyard. But again, WHY on earth don’t they? It’s such a waste in the park.

My main gripe is they need to alleviate some of this overcrowding problem.

 

[Bleed0range]

And I’m also so upset about ROA. I feel like everyone is just trying to convince themselves it’s not a terrible idea and accept it. But it’s a terrible idea.

 

[James Alucobond]

My main gripe is they need to alleviate some of this overcrowding problem.

So build the Main Street arcades, expand the walkable area, create alternate viewing locations for the firework show (e.g. in Villains), etc. Overcrowding is much less severe in parks with infrastructure that better supports guest flow and accounts for multiple viewing locations for things like parades and nighttime spectaculars. MK is still built like a park meant to handle far fewer guests than it does today.

And I’m also so upset about ROA. I feel like everyone is just trying to convince themselves it’s not a terrible idea and accept it. But it’s a terrible idea.

Very few people are super happy about it, but it’s kind of unrelated. Expansion at MK does not necessitate the removal of the Rivers, this just happens to be how they’re going about it.