MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[Bocabear]

Sadly with the current leadership and the IP Mandate a tear-out and replacement with the Incredibles is exactly what we would get...lol
Jungle Book, Moana, Tarzan... those would all fit, but they continue to try and show us that anything belongs anywhere.... Cartoon cars in Frontierland? Sure! Moana in Future World? Absolutely! Muppets in Liberty Square? Why not! Maybe they could remove the Jungle Cruise and add a splashy new Cinderella ride in it's place! Imagine how many princess dresses they could sell if Cinderella had an actual ride....

 

[SamusAranX]

With all this "just expand, not replace" talk, remember...

More attractions means more expense to run the operations of the park. More CMs to staff the attraction. More engineering hours for upkeep.

And if running the park's ops cost more... guess what Disney will do? Pass the cost to the guest.

And yes, I know that MK's attractions aren't providing enough capacity. So, apart from expanding, you can replace with a higher capacity attraction. You can do more crowd manipulation with surge pricing and reservations and blackouts. You can make the other parks more attractive by putting more attractions there.

Just can't keep expanding forever. Well you can, but ticket prices will rise proportionately.

They’re raising ticket prices regardless, let’s not be naive

 

[lazyboy97o]

With all this "just expand, not replace" talk, remember...

More attractions means more expense to run the operations of the park. More CMs to staff the attraction. More engineering hours for upkeep.

And if running the park's ops cost more... guess what Disney will do? Pass the cost to the guest.

And yes, I know that MK's attractions aren't providing enough capacity. So, apart from expanding, you can replace with a higher capacity attraction. You can do more crowd manipulation with surge pricing and reservations and blackouts. You can make the other parks more attractive by putting more attractions there.

Just can't keep expanding forever. Well you can, but ticket prices will rise proportionately.

This assumes no new demand.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

With all this "just expand, not replace" talk, remember...

More attractions means more expense to run the operations of the park. More CMs to staff the attraction. More engineering hours for upkeep.

Disneyland is able to do it.

Now the argument could be made that Disneyland Resort and WDW spread out the costs differently but if that’s the case WDW should have just closed and demolished studios if they didn’t want to continue operating 4 theme parks.

 

[Disstevefan1]

More attractions means more expense to run the operations of the park. More CMs to staff the attraction. More engineering hours for upkeep.

I used to think this way, when they destroyed and replaced Horizons, I thought this exact thing and said to myself, "Well they cant afford to have BOTH Horizons AND Mission Space"

LOL, "Cant afford" ah, I was so naive back then.

When I see the hundreds of millions they burn on money losing movies over and over, once in a while having one make money, I no longer feel that way.

TWDC has plenty of money. They just choose to spend it on money losing movies rather than world class attractions at the parks.

I wish someone would do the calculations and see how many cast members they could employ and for how long using just the hundreds of millions of dollars they lose when they release a money losing movie.

OK @MisterPenguin this is your cue to make fun of me and call me names as usual At this point I would feel worse if you didn't

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Sadly with the current leadership and the IP Mandate a tear-out and replacement with the Incredibles is exactly what we would get...lol
Jungle Book, Moana, Tarzan... those would all fit, but they continue to try and show us that anything belongs anywhere.... Cartoon cars in Frontierland? Sure! Moana in Future World? Absolutely! Muppets in Liberty Square? Why not! Maybe they could remove the Jungle Cruise and add a splashy new Cinderella ride in it's place! Imagine how many princess dresses they could sell if Cinderella had an actual ride....

Maybe a controversial opinion but Moana & Muppets 100% fit imo with their actual attractions.

 

[electric]

I understand that you personally don’t like the jungle cruise but I would wonder why they would do that when there’s a perfectly good expansion area between it and pirates.

There isnt a pad between the two rides.

 

[mickEblu]

Well that’s one way to increase tourists at DLR. Make it the only place to visit any of the classic attractions. Not sure if it’s intentional or just a natural product of DL nostalgia / respect for Walt but it sure does seem that way between the ROA going away at MK and Jungle Cruise going away in Tokyo. Yes, I know OLC isn’t owned by Disney but that doesn’t mean OLC’s decisions might not factor into what they do in the states. Hoping for this rather than reading too much into the alternative - that these same attractions at DLR are expendable too.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

There isnt a pad between the two rides.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

The fact is, they could build whatever they want outside of Magic Kingdom. There is plenty of room to expand and, while it may be costly to make the land suitable, they are capable of doing it. They are choosing to replace the RoA instead. And that, my friends, is very disgruntling.

 

[aladdin2007]

You have to consider the business of running a theme park. They don't want to use all of their underdeveloped land right away. They want to build on that land every ten years or so, bringing guests back to discover the joys of the parks. The guests who have been away for some time. Imagine if they had used them all 20 years ago and we were looking at Atlantis attractions, Great Mouse Detective Land, and Oliver and Company the ride. I think their approach makes sense. TSI is underutilized and even if we are sad to see the island and surrounding water go, I have hopes they will build something really impressive.

Gotta say would have loved to have seen that at the Studios

 

[Andrew C]

Gotta say would have loved to have seen that at the Studios

Why should I worry?

 

[aladdin2007]

fire mountain would still be a great thing IMO, even more so now, because not many people saw the movie so it would almost be like a unique non ip based park land. A steam punk adventure land section would be amazing

agree, unfortunately they don't seem to be doing such projects like that anymore, only taking them away, were losing mountains now (splash) with no plans to gain any. Its kinda sad when that's what the parks were known for the mountain ranges. Now its just plopping whatever wherever . Epcot is still yearning for one.

 

[aladdin2007]

Why should I worry?

Im sorry? not following

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

agree, unfortunately they don't seem to be doing such projects like that anymore, only taking them away, were losing mountains now (splash) with no plans to gain any. Its kinda sad when that's what the parks were known for the mountain ranges. Now its just plopping whatever wherever . Epcot is still yearning for one.

I still see Tiana's as one of the mountains tbh. If Space Mountain is a mountain, so is Tiana's. You don't need to put "mountain" in the name for it to effectively be a mountain. Especially when most people say Everest + Matterhorn count as mountains.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

But if they only focused on the other 3 parks, people would be saying MK doesn't get anything new. Investment in the parks are literally on rotation, with only AK getting less consistent investment. Since New Fantasyland opened in 2012, here are each parks major new offerings:

• MK: 7 Dwarfs (2014), Tron (2023), Tiana's (2024), Cars (2029?) Villains (2030?) - 5
• Epcot: Frozen Ever After (2016), Ratatouille (2021), Guardians (2023), Moana/Epcot Spine (2023) - 4
• HS: Toy Story Land (2018), Star Wars Galaxy's Edge (2019), MMRR (2020), Monsters (2028?) - 4
• AK: Pandora (2017), Tropical Americas (2027) - 2

Very interesting imo to compare 1 ride to 1 land in your comparison to beef up your point, especially when you're not including shows but do include Moana . The criteria seems a little all over the place tbh

 

[aladdin2007]

I still see Tiana's as one of the mountains tbh. If Space Mountain is a mountain, so is Tiana's. You don't need to put "mountain" in the name for it to effectively be a mountain. Especially when most people say Everest + Matterhorn count as mountains.

tianas has been reduced and downgraded to an unimpressive mound.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

tianas has been reduced and downgraded to an unimpressive mound.

Its the exact same mountain just without the tree on top and more plant life. If the difference between a mountain and a "mound" is plant-life, we better contact some geologists or smth because afaik, the top of Everest does not have a tree

 

[Brer Panther]

Universal has gotten away with doing the same thing for years and people love it for being 1 big themed experience.

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah, Harry Potter Land really did a lot of damage to the Disney theme parks, didn't it?

Let's see how much Disney is impacted by Epic Universe.

They'll probably just learn all the wrong lessons from it, like they did from Harry Potter Land.

I would much rather see them overhaul the mess of Tomorrowland in a good and meaningful way, reactivate the old Alien Encounter space with something new, Boot the Monsters over to DHS, replace that woith something that fits the theme of the land and add another new attraction to the Galaxy Theater expansion space... Also the Speedway seriously needs something to make it feel like it belongs in a Disney park... Tomorrowland really needed to be fixed before they move forward with another expansion...

We really need to make sure Elio does decently at the box office. I think that's the only way we'll see any investment in Tomorrowland.

But if they only focused on the other 3 parks, people would be saying MK doesn't get anything new.

At this point, I'm not sure I WANT to see Magic Kingdom get anything new, at least until Iger and his cronies are shown the door.

Probably -- the biggest issue is that anything they build there is going to need to be fully themed from almost every direction because nearly everything will be guest facing inside the park.

Hmmm... let's say, hypothetically, they decided to replace the Tomorrowland Speedway with an Alice in Wonderland dark ride. If the entire attraction is indoors, and assuming there isn't enough room for a new attraction on the Fantasyland side AND a new attraction on the Tomorrowland side, the front of the attraction - the entryway in Fantasyland - could be themed to... I dunno, some sort of English countryside-ish building, and the back of the attraction facing Tomorrowland could look like a building from a science fiction movie. I feel like they could pull it off?

If they get rid of the Jungle Cruise AND the RoA, that would be awful. And I love the temple scene in MK's Jungle Cruise...it's really unique!

I think the Jungle Cruise just needs a refresh, not a replacement. And I especially do not want it replaced with a Moana ride like they're doing in Tokyo. Honestly, I'd rather have Moana in the Tiki Room than as a Jungle Cruise replacement.

fire mountain would still be a great thing IMO, even more so now, because not many people saw the movie

Was there a Fire Mountain movie? Are you referring to Atlantis? I know there was a pitch to have Fire Mountain be based on that at some point...

TWDC has plenty of money. They just choose to spend it on money losing movies rather than world class attractions at the parks.

I wish someone would do the calculations and see how many cast members they could employ and for how long using just the hundreds of millions of dollars they lose when they release a money losing movie.

And on Bob Iger's car payment, too, most likely.

Im sorry? not following

It's a reference to a song from the movie.

 

[aladdin2007]

Its the exact same mountain just without the tree on top and more plant life. If the difference between a mountain and a "mound" is plant-life, we better contact some geologists or smth because afaik, the top of Everest does not have a tree

whatever disney downgraded it all together and its no longer considered one of the mountain ranges, back to cars.