SPOILERS: Snow White live action (March 21, 2025 release)

[Dear Prudence]

I prefer plays also but it’s a substantial paycheck difference, I read an article not that long ago that stated Broderick and Lane were some of the highest paid actors on Broadway and each made $5 million a year for the Producers, that’s incredible money but a far cry from the $20-40 million top movie stars are making per movie now.

The flip side is I’ve witnessed quite a few movies being filmed in Vegas and nothing about it looked fun, hours of sitting around while the crews set up the scene, 20 minutes of filming, hours of sitting around while they set up the next scene, 20 minutes of filming… looked tedious and boring, if that’s normal I’d rather be a stage actor.

Doing a live show, with the thrill of the unknown, followed by applause and instant gratification seems like it would be much more fun and also much more gratifying.

Almost nothing about making films is fun, I'm afraid. This assessment is 100% correct, unfortunately. On the flip side, while live shows are also hard work and unpredictable, they are more rewarding for a lot of folks because the feedback they get is instant. You're able to feed off the energy in real time.

Movie stars in Broadway shows and their salaries (and how this is reflected now in the ticket prices) is actually becoming a point of contention. The recent production of Othello is a great example of this.

 

[John park hopper]

This says it all

"Snow White' Box Office Run Is Almost Over, Cementing All-Time Flop For Disney"​

 

[Dear Prudence]

Since it's Workers' Memorial Day (of all things), this will be the last thing I say about this: you can't convince me that demanding more money for yourself as a star during industry strikes (where you weren't even supposed to mention your projects lol), or making "jokes" about people losing scenes or being cut isn't mean, nasty behaviour. Unfortunately because so much of the criticism towards her is just nonsense that actual, valid criticism is lost. Unfortunately, she also absolutely needs to stop with the crashing out on Instagram lives, which also isn't fair to the millions of people who follow her on there that she's just dumping emotional baggage on.

That all being said, I saw the total estimated cost of the film and I don't understand where they spent all of their money, because it wasn't on the costumes and most of the film looked like AI. it's like the Cats movie all over again, where the heck did the money go towards?!

 

[LittleBuford]

Since it's Workers' Memorial Day (of all things), this will be the last thing I say about this: you can't convince me that demanding more money for yourself as a star during industry strikes (where you weren't even supposed to mention your projects lol), or making "jokes" about people losing scenes or being cut isn't mean, nasty behaviour. Unfortunately because so much of the criticism towards her is just nonsense that actual, valid criticism is lost. Unfortunately, she also absolutely needs to stop with the crashing out on Instagram lives, which also isn't fair to the millions of people who follow her on there that she's just dumping emotional baggage on.

That all being said, I saw the total estimated cost of the film and I don't understand where they spent all of their money, because it wasn't on the costumes and most of the film looked like AI. it's like the Cats movie all over again, where the heck did the money go towards?!

I’ve already pointed out that at least one of the Instagram clips you’re referring to was excerpted from a YouTube video she recorded in 2023 that has nothing to do with Snow White. Yes, it’s fine to voice legitimate criticism of her, but if you can’t even be bothered to factcheck the things you’re faulting her for, you’re merely contributing to the problem of what you rightly characterise as “nonsense” criticism.

 

[Chi84]

I’ve already pointed out that at least one of the Instagram clips you’re referring to was excerpted from a YouTube video she recorded in 2023 that has nothing to do with Snow White. Yes, it’s fine to voice legitimate criticism of her, but if you can’t even be bothered to factcheck the things you’re faulting her for, you’re merely contributing to the problem of what you rightly characterise as “nonsense” criticism.

She also wasn’t joking about people losing scenes, but there’s no hope for people who don’t want to hear anything that contradicts their opinion.

 

[LittleBuford]

She also wasn’t joking about people losing scenes, but there’s no hope for people who don’t want to hear anything that contradicts their opinion.

To be fair, I can see why her joke about Burnap’s scenes being cut might, in the abstract, be misconstrued, but it’s clear from the context of her remarks what she intended by them. Taking things out of context has been a leitmotif of all the discourse surrounding Zegler.

 

[Chi84]

To be fair, I can see why her joke about Burnap’s scenes being cut might, in the abstract, be misconstrued, but it’s clear from the context of her remarks what she intended by them. Taking things out of context has been a leitmotif of all the discourse surrounding Zegler.

Even in the abstract and taken out of context I was able to figure out what she meant. People need to be rendered brainless to accept some of this nonsense.

 

[Phroobar]

Even if it is perceived, damage was done. Disney's PR did nothing to fix it until it was too late. It just goes to show that a couple of hundred people on the internet can tank a $200 million dollar movie.

 

[Chi84]

It just goes to show that a couple of hundred people on the internet can tank a $200 million dollar movie.

They don’t have that power. Disney did that to itself by deciding to re-make a movie no one wanted to see.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Even if it is perceived, damage was done. Disney's PR did nothing to fix it until it was too late. It just goes to show that a couple of hundred people on the internet can tank a $200 million dollar movie.

It cost way more than 200M between the extensive re shoots and marketing

 

[Phroobar]

They don’t have that power. Disney did that to itself by deciding to re-make a movie no one wanted to see.

Maybe but I believe they did reinforce it. It wasn't destroyed in a vacuum.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Maybe but I believe they did reinforce it. It wasn't destroyed in a vacuum.

Yeah, I think it's evident there were many factors. But I believe there were articles from when the movie was announced saying it was expected to be another giant hit. I think it came on the heels of Beauty and the Beast and Lion King. Folks here seemed less enthused, but I don't think the general expectation was that it was a movie no one wanted.

 

[Chi84]

Maybe but I believe they did reinforce it. It wasn't destroyed in a vacuum.

Yes, the people who were never going to see it stayed away in great numbers.

 

[Phroobar]

Yes, the people who were never going to see it stayed away in great numbers.

Isn't that case for every movie?

 

[LittleBuford]

Yeah, I think it's evident there were many factors. But I believe there were articles from when the movie was announced saying it was expected to be another giant hit. I think it came on the heels of Beauty and the Beast and Lion King. Folks here seemed less enthused, but I don't think the general expectation was that it was a movie no one wanted.

I agree with the bolded but not with your impression that it was expected it to be a giant hit. None of the early announcements I’ve seen voiced all that much enthusiasm for the project.

 

[Chi84]

Isn't that case for every movie?

Yes.

 

[easyrowrdw]

I agree with the bolded but not with your impression that it was expected it to be a giant hit. None of the early announcements I’ve seen voiced all that much enthusiasm for the project.

Okay. I feel like I looked for articles a while back from the time of the announcement and they were as I described them. But I certainly might be remembering incorrectly. It was probably 150 pages ago in the Box Office thread

 

[LittleBuford]

Okay. I feel like I looked for articles a while back from the time of the announcement and they were as I described them. But I certainly might be remembering incorrectly. It was probably 150 pages ago in the Box Office thread

I’m sure some articles were more optimistic than others, so it’s possible we’re remembering different things!

 

[LittleBuford]

Actually, I’m exactly where I’ve always been. My approach to Zegler is the same as my approach to every other actor, which is to say that I have minimal interest in her personality and her viewpoints. If I do defend her, I do so for the sake of accuracy and decorum, not because I have any special attachment to her. (I’ve also criticised her when I’ve considered it appropriate to do so.)

 

[brideck]

I finally saw this tonight with my spouse and MiL and we all enjoyed it quite a lot. Despite all the discourse, I didn't really quite know what I was going to get, but after the first couple of minutes I just thought, "Okay, it's a broadly-played, big, stagey musical. Got it." and was entertained throughout after that. I thought both Gadot and Zegler worked in their roles and there were plenty of laughs.

From a modern perspective, the original doesn't have enough story to hang a hat on -- it's really about the iconic imagery -- so the expansions here felt warranted with plenty of nods to the source material intact. The design of the dwarfs was indeed a bit off-putting, but if they're going to be the source of a lot of pretty extreme visual gags (just like in the original) you almost have to do it that way -- I don't think Three Stooges-style buffoonery would've worked as well.

This movie deserved better, and I've given up trying to figure out what the people looking for solid family entertainment find acceptable anymore. Is it the greatest movie in the world? Of course not, but neither is the vast majority of family movies (including a majority of Disney's back catalog).