News Jellyrolls Announces Departure from Disney's BoardWalk at Walt Disney World

nickys

Premium Member
Some posters, and some guards, make up rules. Jellyrolls site, still up:
Parking


When you arrive at the Boardwalk Entrance, please let the Security Guards know you are going to Jellyrolls.


They can direct you to free parking or fee-based valet parking.
Ultimately whether or not you can park at a resort of which you are not a guest is up to the people at the guard shack.

If there is no room for non resort guests they may direct you to valet parking or the nearest available parking.

In any case this started as a post on an Uber drop-off (or not). Which does seem a strange decision to refuse it.
 

JMcMahonEsq

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Some posters, and some guards, make up rules. Jellyrolls site, still up:
Parking


When you arrive at the Boardwalk Entrance, please let the Security Guards know you are going to Jellyrolls.


They can direct you to free parking or fee-based valet parking.
And who cares really what Jelly Rolls, a tenant with no authority over WDW policy and procedures, posted on their website? If i am jelly rolls, sure I might want people to be able to park close and walk to my business. Doesn’t mean that’s WDW policy.
 

Jrb1979

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And who cares really what Jelly Rolls, a tenant with no authority over WDW policy and procedures, posted on their website? If i am jelly rolls, sure I might want people to be able to park close and walk to my business. Doesn’t mean that’s WDW policy.
The boardwalk used to be a busy place with a lot of nightlife. They have slowly killed that off cause resort guests want their beauty sleep
 
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JMcMahonEsq

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The boardwalk used to be a busy place with a lot of nightlife. They have slowly killed that off cause resort guests want their beauty sleep


Disney is a business. If having a min-Disney springs at the boardwalk made financial sense, they would do it. It’s just not worth it. If it was, the Fortune 500 company with access to cash and data, as opposed to forum posters who have ancedotal evidence and “what I liked from when I went 20yrs ago , would be exploiting it. I mean seriously, you think the company who is monetizing ride skips, parking, add on packages, ect., wouldn’t want the boardwalk to be an after hours profit center if it made sense?

You really think it’s odd that WDW would cater to the people dropping 7-800 per night on hotels versus people who are either staying off property, or at other less expensive resorts? You find it odd that when they have an entire location dedicated to bars and entertainment and restaurants, that they would want to spend money and create a smaller version, in a location with less access, and next to sleeping guests?
 

Jrb1979

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Disney is a business. If having a min-Disney springs at the boardwalk made financial sense, they would do it. It’s just not worth it. If it was, the Fortune 500 company with access to cash and data, as opposed to forum posters who have ancedotal evidence and “what I liked from when I went 20yrs ago , would be exploiting it. I mean seriously, you think the company who is monetizing ride skips, parking, add on packages, ect., wouldn’t want the boardwalk to be an after hours profit center if it made sense?

You really think it’s odd that WDW would cater to the people dropping 7-800 per night on hotels versus people who are either staying off property, or at other less expensive resorts? You find it odd that when they have an entire location dedicated to bars and entertainment and restaurants, that they would want to spend money and create a smaller version, in a location with less access, and next to sleeping guests?
Til the last few years, Disney obviously thought it made sense to have the Boardwalk be a night time draw for those staying at the resorts around the Boardwalk. Catering to those staying at the hotel would be having restaurants and things to do at the resort. Not everyone wants to go to bed at dusk
 

lazyboy97o

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And who cares really what Jelly Rolls, a tenant with no authority over WDW policy and procedures, posted on their website? If i am jelly rolls, sure I might want people to be able to park close and walk to my business. Doesn’t mean that’s WDW policy.
Disney sure seems to think it’s their policy.
 

Sir_Cliff

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Til the last few years, Disney obviously thought it made sense to have the Boardwalk be a night time draw for those staying at the resorts around the Boardwalk. Catering to those staying at the hotel would be having restaurants and things to do at the resort. Not everyone wants to go to bed at dusk
My memory of the resort's development is that it was pitched as part of the effort to broaden WDW's appeal beyond families with young children. Part of that was attracting more convention business, but also providing more bars, nightlife, and restaurants for adults. This was not too long into Pleasure Island's life and around the same time the ill-fated Disney Institute opened, and my memory is that the Boardwalk was also supposed to be a place particularly older guests could go in the evenings.
 

Comped

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My memory of the resort's development is that it was pitched as part of the effort to broaden WDW's appeal beyond families with young children. Part of that was attracting more convention business, but also providing more bars, nightlife, and restaurants for adults. This was not too long into Pleasure Island's life and around the same time the ill-fated Disney Institute opened, and my memory is that the Boardwalk was also supposed to be a place particularly older guests could go in the evenings.
None of these efforts, or Disney's efforts at regional venues, were true failures. Had they been actually kept up in terms of investment/vision (most businesses lose money early on after all), they'd all probably be thriving (or at least existing) today. Leadership and strategic vision failure, not financial. Disney decided they had other priorities (DVC, DCL, theme park expansion)...
 

solidyne

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To be fair, property rights essentially are a type of regulation. They only exist to the extent that they are enforced by a government.
Rights are regulations? To refute this would be to get political, at least political/philosophical. That's all beside the point anyway.

My simple point was that the OP's desire to respect the rights of the property owner is a far cry from his being eagerly subordinate to any authority or regulation. It's actually the opposite.
 
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lazyboy97o

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My simple point was that the OP's desire to respect the rights of the property owner is a far cry from his being eagerly subordinate to any authority or regulation. It's actually the opposite.
Again, it’s not the property owner’s actual desire or rule. So yes, it’s quite obsequious to make up a rule to follow and yelling at others for not following it.
 

solidyne

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Again, it’s not the property owner’s actual desire or rule. So yes, it’s quite obsequious to make up a rule to follow and yelling at others for not following it.
I assume he was under the assumption that the security guard correctly represented the rules.

And, OK, he did get a bit yelly, but only in equal measure to the whininess of the person who got turned away.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I assume he was under the assumption that the security guard correctly represented the rules.

And, OK, he did get a bit yelly, but only in equal measure to the whininess of the person who got turned away.
The person spent time and, more importantly, money to take an Uber to the hotel in order to spend more money at the Boardwalk which they should have been allowed to do, only to be turned away by a security guard who, at least according the poster, was especially rude about enforcing a non-existent rule. Given those circumstances, I know I would have been annoyed. Even if it was an official rule, I would not have then been inclined to walk over to the Boardwalk to give Disney any more of my money. Perhaps I am also just a whiny person, though.

Either way, I really don't identify with anyone who hears that story and thinks "Good for the security guard."
 
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JMcMahonEsq

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Til the last few years, Disney obviously thought it made sense to have the Boardwalk be a night time draw for those staying at the resorts around the Boardwalk. Catering to those staying at the hotel would be having restaurants and things to do at the resort. Not everyone wants to go to bed at dusk
You said it there, catering to people staying at the resorts around the boardwalk. This whole sub-discussion began regarding the concept of people coming into the area. The boardwalk itself for a pre/post firework spot and/or resort day area for people staying in the area serves a great purpose. But it’s not Disney springs. Nor should it be a late night loud party area. It’s not worth the time to recreate but someone in past on this thread I did a post noting the various bars/restaurants in the hotels in this area that are open until 11/12 or later. All locations where people who so chose can get a drink or a later meal, and not be right under the windows of people who are sleeping. And that leaving aside of course that those people could go to Disney springs if they want.
 

Comped

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The person spent time and, more importantly, money to take an Uber to the hotel in order to spend more money at the Boardwalk which they should have been allowed to do, only to be turned away by a security guard who, at least according the poster, was especially rude about enforcing a non-existent rule. Given those circumstances, I know I would have been annoyed. Even if it was an official rule, I would not have then been inclined to walk over to the Boardwalk to give Disney any more of my money. Perhaps I am also just a whiny person, though.

Either way, I really don't identify with anyone who hears that story and thinks "Good for the security guard."
When I was a CM I heard countless stories about people getting turned away by security guards at various resorts (and the Boardwalk area too) for the same rule that, as far as I was told, does not actually exist. People want to spend their money but keep getting turned away because they want to use their private vehicle versus Disney transportation... Which makes zero sense to me. If you want to spend your money at Disney, Disney should be very welcoming of that! Guests being turned away from spending money is exactly the opposite of what the shareholders and finance team should be wanting right now...
 

JMcMahonEsq

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Disney sure seems to think it’s their policy.


From Disney’s Q&A on resort access “
Disney policy is you cannot park (or be dropped off by ride share) if you don't have a resort or dining reservation. Some guards will occasionally let you in. Most stick firmly to the rules. It's safer to Uber to a park/disney springs and use Disney transportation to ge to your desired resort.“

From the page you linked to”

Know Before You Go
Due to limited parking availability at Disney's BoardWalk Inn, we highly recommend that all Disney Resort hotel Guests take advantage of our complimentary transportation options. Be advised that self-parking may not be available for Guests arriving in their own vehicles—valet parking may be the only option. Guests visiting EPCOT are encouraged to utilize the EPCOT Guest Parking Lot.

Guests of the boardwalk. Capital G guest. In fact it even says guests should use complimentary transportation options. No where does it says any and all John Q. Public should use the boardwalk resort parking lot as a staging area to get to the Boardwalk restaurants/area
 
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