Agent H
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I nominate this and a how to train your dragon dark ride.
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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Now Open!
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It is definitely a Comcast goal but it is hard to say how much it will stick. I do think we will see far more consistency like they have done since they came in. So far it is evident worldwide they are this way since 2013. So their plan as sole owners and investment promises have barely hit and the fruits worldwide subjectivity aside are evident.
This is really fantastic work, lots of creative ideas here. I'd like to parrot what @DrStarlander had suggested over on a Universal forum site: utilize that #6 plot for a family dark ride in the style of Secret Life of Pets or the Little Mermaid
They could go for an original ride based on the Celestial Park theme, or could choose an IP that might work within that realm like the Wild Robot or even the Lorax.
all images are their fine work:
Centauri Space Station
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It’s just too short and looks really lacklusterI think everyone is sleeping on the Yoshi Peoplemover. It's a cute ride
DarkMetroid567
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It’s not bad, but it’s a terrible value for its capacity and eventual wait times. Each of my Orlando/TM friends that went during TM previews had nothing but negative things to say — likely because the wait was always >20 minutes. And if Epic isn’t totally dead like it is right now, it will always be over 20-30 minutes.
OrlandoRising
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I get the logic behind posts like these, but Universal isn't trying to be like Disney. Their theme park brand is built on being a little more intense and thrilling and less "fun for the whole family" so as to not turn off older kids and teens. If they were going to change that brand in any significant way, we would've seen it happen with Epic, not after.
Agent H
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I don’t get why people think teenagers and older kids are turned off by Disney. The way I see it is that Michal Eisners son was one of the few people who thought that way (he was wrong) and now people think all teenagers feel that way about Disney?
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Well it did with Epic, just in a modern way where audiences are more comfortable with thrills. There is a good balance to start with and many of the thrills are 40 inch requirements and mild, but I think people are just saying what large attractions would be best next. All theme and amusement parks fill voids as they expand to be successful.
Universal since origins was never was Disney classic dark ride style and the original opening in 1990 did not even have many dark rides at all. The few it did were totally unique or.elements pf.trscked.rides
However, they were all incredibly accessible with 34 inch to 40 inch Height requirements max and not physically extreme.
It Also does not just mean themed coasters either. That us more or less what many and myself were alluding to. No one needs them to be like Disney. Just the best rounded version of Universal.
Uni did not have a single coaster until 1999 with Woody Woodpecker's Nuthouse Coaster and no ride at studios had a beyond 40 inch height requirement(many had none) until MIB in 2000 and ROTM with 48 in 2004. MGM had thrill rides of upper height requirements before Uni did.
You can say that Uni should not copy Disney but the association with major theme parks having dark rides that become more intense and thrilling can even to be said to be lead by Disney with Indy/CTX and Test Track etc...
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Disgruntled Walt
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- In the Parks
- No
I don't think teenagers are turned off by Disney. Your presence (and others') disproves that.
Architectural Guinea Pig
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- In the Parks
- No
But seriously though... imagine a Captain Cacao suspended dark ride flying through a bunch of Dreamworks movies like their (ugly) new intro sequence
Moth
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I think Nintendo just needs an extra attraction to really balance it out. Like, either for DK or Mario. Not Zelda (I want Zelda! But I mean, I want an extra Mario/DK ride to feed that crowd). If you get like, a water ride or something like a flat ride, you'd put pressure off of Yoshi so it can get the wait time it warrants, and can help DK in the process.
I'm sensitive and my heart strings are easily pulled, I think Yoshi is adorable and one of the few Nintendo characters I will happily shill money for (next to DK and Bowser), so I'm biased for Yoshi but I am definitely afraid of it hitting 60+ minutes consistently because SNW doesn't have a lot to do.
Your AP Preview?
hopemax
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Yep! Just finished breakfast at Stella Nova. French toast was good. Heading over soon. Security opens at 9:30 from what I’ve read.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Some are, some aren't. They aren't a monolithic group.
Andrew25
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Universal needed an edge over Disney in the late 90s and early 2000s when they struggled as a business. Their business kept changing hands from different corporate overloads who didn't understand the parks business. They didn't get the proper financing for major additions, so they ended up having to create special events that catered to teens/young adults (HHN/Mardi Gras) because they had to carve a niche to survive.
Epic Universe, while I have my issues with it, does in fact change Universal's perception of what to offer at a theme park. There was a move to make less thrill rides, and more friendly options. (My post on adding more family-friendly offerings is to offer more non-motion base/wet attractions that the entire family from infant to senior can experience together).
And like someone mentioned above, the inclusion of family-friendly offerings does not deter teens/young adults from going. Adding Minion Land & DreamWorks to USF didn't deter the crowd from heading to Horror Nights.
hopemax
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Rough start this morning. In line at Stardust Racers, but it hasn’t started operating yet. Neither has Donkey Kong. The app said Mario Kart would open at 10, but that is in delay too. So the only attractions open are Yoshi and the Carousel. At least we’re out of the sun in the queue. It’s going to be a hot one. We brought an umbrella for walking between the lands.
Oh! Just announced vehicles are moving. So hopefully not much longer.
Oh! Just announced vehicles are moving. So hopefully not much longer.
TalkingHead
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High today is mid-80s but Sunday is in the 90s, so you lucked out.
hopemax
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Finally got on Stardust (Yellow) at 10:48. Now in line at Monsters which is also delayed. At 11:10 over half the park was on dalay. With the only attractions operating being Carousel, Fyre Drill, Werewolf, Dragon Racers, and Mario Kart. Yoshi reopened so that makes 6.
This isn’t a complaint, but a statement that I’ve wondered if these previews aren’t better to explore first, ride later. But Monsters also has a “closing early sign.” So that’s the risk. Yesterday, following the wait times, things were a lot smoother.
Goal is to get on Monsters and hopefully hit the first Harry Potter show at 12:30 and get a Butterbeer crepe. Hopefully the afternoon will be better operationally.
This isn’t a complaint, but a statement that I’ve wondered if these previews aren’t better to explore first, ride later. But Monsters also has a “closing early sign.” So that’s the risk. Yesterday, following the wait times, things were a lot smoother.
Goal is to get on Monsters and hopefully hit the first Harry Potter show at 12:30 and get a Butterbeer crepe. Hopefully the afternoon will be better operationally.