Genie+ is awful only cause too many people are buying it. Take away even half the people using it each day and it's a much different story.
Take away half the people using it, it’s still a bad design that took a step back and needs changes IMO
& no disrespect to you. My guess is More people used FP+ than use Genie. At the bare minimum more people booked 3 rides initially then are using Genie +. So the math just does NOT add up imo i could betotally wrong on this. Maybe you have facts to compare the 2. Im using the eye test and common sense here. Every prebooked 3 rides even people who were clueless. Others a good amount used additional ones in the parks day of. This has been confirmed by numerous people on and off site guests along w AP holders. So i cant buy all of a sudden inventory is an issue. To me this is more propaganda (again hot take) to charge MORE $ for a “new” system they may be developing. Genie is awful you cant get anything. That was NOT the case with FP day of and lets face it we all had 3 solid rides prior to entering the parks as a resort guests and seems like non resort guests and AP were semi haply as well wtheir choices. So all that does not add up that too many people are using Genie.
& ill go 1 step further. Charge 25-30 a day for the exact same product FP was people would pay for it & salivate at that once again.
100% agree with what you are saying. I don’t buy the argument more people are using it than before, it would work if less people did, and they took out preplanning because people didn’t like it yet add in preplanning elsewhere. If people have to preplan their parks, then some show up the day of guests can’t get in anyways. It just doesn’t add up. The old system while not perfect was used more with in some cases less offerings and it was way easier to do things and enjoy your day without stress and a 7am gambling match
More people may have used FP+ but you also had didn't have 2 rides per park taken out of the FP+ inventory like you do now. That makes a huge difference in ride availability. Add in from everything that's been said they also don't give out as many LL compared to FP. Mainly due to that if you are paying for it most people want short waits. It is a completely different system.
This is absolutely true. I don't know where people get the idea that someone planning their only or very infrequent, very expensive WDW vacation is okay with flying by the seat of their pants where rides are concerned, especially if they have to reserve dining, plan for shows, decide on water park days, etc. I've been contacted by friends and family for advice on WDW vacations, and I can guarantee you they loved the assurance of knowing they could get the rides they wanted at times that wouldn't interfere with their other plans. If anyone contacts me now, my only advice is not to go at this time.
Ive read it and honestly still
Expectations are the driver here, not volume. The FP+ inventory was plenty to allow each resort guest 3 per day at 60 days out. The expectation of use on the remaining inventory (off site, APs) was low. Saying FP+ worked "perfectly" as a resort guest makes me chuckle a bit. If you weren't a resort guest it was awful.
So now we have Genie+ and it's awful for everyone. And we get to pay.
It's not necessarily awful for those who don't pay for it, because the lines should be moving faster in standby.
The frustrating thing here is rather than take something that was free and monetize it reasonably (and also improving the experience), they simply couldn't help themselves in not putting purchase limits on it.
I want something that isn’t a step backwards in the experience and stress of using it regardless of the cost
This, except possibly 9pm unless they are worried about people not being able to take crappy videos of the fireworks show.
Well then there’s another issue. So at 10pm the night prior we are supposed to rush to purchase Genie+ before it sells out (when we may be on a bus or driving back from a nighttime show or even still in a park) and then at 7am do the mad dash again.
No, if you made your choice at 10pm you wouldn't be able to make another until 2 hours after park opening, or after you used your first G+ LL. So that removes the early wake up requirement.
I pretty much agree with you, except the public is willing to make some-roll-with it allowances, but we have to have some trust the product will meet our expectations.
Haha I'm talking about realistic changes. If we're talking about wish lists - I want an Express Pass style service offered to free for Deluxe guests. Realistically, the flexibility of FP+ is not returning. I agree with you, but there's a huge difference between what we want and what we can reasonably expect.
No, the point of the 10pm is so you don't have to wake up at 7am. In fact, I'd change it from 7am for everyone else to park open. That way when it is 2 hours after park open, resort guests get first pick at round 2 of selections.
ah ok... i misread that but again we are making it more complicated... 10pm the night before (while most are on vacation already), 7am the day of (when most are starting their day or getting ready to have breakfast at the resort) etc. etc. etc.
