DisneyDebRob
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Another very informative post. Thanks.
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Kevin_W
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Indeed, good news. Here is one reported last week, though it is only based on lab studies so far, and not even mice let alone humans:
Researchers Say AbbVie's Tricor Reduced Severity Of COVID-19 Into 'Nothing Worse Than A Common Cold'
AbbVie Inc (NYSE: ABBV) shares popped Tuesday after researchers found that the large-cap pharma's cholesterol-lowering drug Tricor could work against SARS-CoV2, the virus that causes COVID-19.What Happened: Researchers at Israel's Hebrew University and the Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York...
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xdan0920
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Matt Hancock launches urgent review into PHE's Covid-19 death count
PHE counts people as victims if they die of any cause any time after testing positive for Covid-19 - even if they were hit by a bus months after beating the life-threatening infection.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Heppenheimer
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Interesting, but the study hasn't even been published, much less peer-reviewed yet. And it would only help keep patients off of ventilators.
If it pans out, this treatment with interferon is yet another tool to use in patients who are already hospitalized, but it won't have any effect in slowing the spread of the virus, which is our biggest COVID-related health problem in the US right now.
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DisneyDebRob
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Sounds like the US isn’t the only place with screwed up numbers. We all need to get our act together with the data and start reporting it properly. At least we had this from that article:Strange.Matt Hancock launches urgent review into PHE's Covid-19 death count
PHE counts people as victims if they die of any cause any time after testing positive for Covid-19 - even if they were hit by a bus months after beating the life-threatening infection.www.dailymail.co.uk
“The 'statistical flaw' should not drastically affect the total number of deaths but means the ongoing death tolls appear worse than the reality. “
So numbers are skewed but not a big overall difference.
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DVCakaCarlF
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This is everyone that thinks the world is going to fall apart: https://www.kare11.com/article/news...virus/89-b01b53a7-2663-4854-9a59-342d9c2dc6d6
Casper Gutman
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We discussed this story a few days ago... maybe last week? This article has a bit more context - even folks highlighting the issue suggest that, at its theoretical worst, it might have effected 2% of the count. Which is logical - how many folks had covid, recovered, and then were lost to something completely unrelated in what amounts to three weeks? The number should be statistically negligible. Putting everything else aside, this is one of the many stories where all you have to do is say. "let's look at the excess mortality year over year."Strange.Matt Hancock launches urgent review into PHE's Covid-19 death count
PHE counts people as victims if they die of any cause any time after testing positive for Covid-19 - even if they were hit by a bus months after beating the life-threatening infection.www.dailymail.co.uk
Casper Gutman
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The numbers will always be wrong, of course. We have thousands of organizations - labs, hospitals, health departments, bureaucracies - dealing with a life-threatening crisis, largely independently. Front-line folks collecting data are at constant risk. Noone has enough time. Central coordination is haphazard or non-existant.
In a few years we'll have a really good guess based on lots of evidence. Right now, we have broad trends, best guesses, and a degree of uncertainty.
We hope. But just one place, not peer reviewed or replicated. Barely one step above anecdotal.
Indeed, good news. Here is one reported last week, though it is only based on lab studies so far, and not even mice let alone humans:
Researchers Say AbbVie's Tricor Reduced Severity Of COVID-19 Into 'Nothing Worse Than A Common Cold'
AbbVie Inc (NYSE: ABBV) shares popped Tuesday after researchers found that the large-cap pharma's cholesterol-lowering drug Tricor could work against SARS-CoV2, the virus that causes COVID-19.What Happened: Researchers at Israel's Hebrew University and the Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York...www.yahoo.com
We hope. But just one place, not peer reviewed or replicated. Barely one step above anecdotal. Kinda fishy because the drug, outside of COVID, doesn't do the kind of things the article says it does, but, that may be the lack of medical understanding of the author.
Strange.Matt Hancock launches urgent review into PHE's Covid-19 death count
PHE counts people as victims if they die of any cause any time after testing positive for Covid-19 - even if they were hit by a bus months after beating the life-threatening infection.www.dailymail.co.uk
If there is consistent over reporting, there could also be consistent under reporting. Also, the amount that would be misrepresented is a drop in a bucket. Also, the number of deaths now compared to the average of previous years shows under reporting, not over reporting. Also, it's a call for a probe, which is not the same as a conclusive finding. So, yeah, very 'strange.' Thanks for pointing out really fishy news stories!
The world's leading epidemiologists don't know what the herd immunity number is needed for COVID, but this doctor knows?
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How is it possible that COVID cases steeply dropped in all these places after just 20% of the population was infected? Can it strictly be explained by human behavior, such as social distancing and masking?
Yes, the answer is "yes." No need to suppose magical immunity. If that's your theory, find a way to test it before announcing to the world your wild conjecture.
NickMaio
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Wow having lived in the Bahamas for 5 years....
This us quite a big deal. If you understand the politics there concerning Americans.
Yodascousin
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In response to my article that’s a bit harsh to say I was trying to post something positive to those that may be reading and having anxiety over all this I think there’s a bit more to it then “ barely one step above anecdotal” the article itself even states it’s not peer reviewed yet and it’s early days but treatments have to start somewhere and this has shown more promise then other treatments.
Yodascousin
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The results from phase 1 of the Oxford vaccine are also in and that is showing great potential to help stop the spread if both a viable treatment and vaccine are both just a few months away it’s a reason to be a bit more positive then yesterday
GoofGoof
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Sadly, it seems to be headed more and more that way. People refuse to follow even simple basic rules. I’d like to think we could do better, but I’m being proven wrong each day. Aside from my own selfish desire to not go back to stay at home orders, the economic impact is going to be devastating. I do hope that we can avoid full stay at home orders and just circle back to a more hybrid version where more additional things are allowed than back in March/April.
xdan0920
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We are only heading back to lockdowns if leaders learned literally nothing in the past 5 months. I know there is a staggering amount of incompetence flying about, so maybe you are right, but god I hope not. The cost is too great.
DisneyDebRob
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So much for that percent positive ticking down. Horrible anyway you slice it.
GoofGoof
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I don’t disagree. Unfortunately there’s a great deal of incompetence and to some extent a lack of self control or discipline or whatever you want to call it on the part of a lot of people. Looking back now it’s obvious we should have had a more consistent plan to emerge from the original stay at home orders. If we opened things back up with a national mask policy and a consistent and science based approach (Including a robust, national plan for testing and tracing going forward) one of 2 things would have happened: 1) it would have worked and the economy and public health situation would be much better right now, or 2) we Would be right where we are today and at least we would know for sure that the plan didn’t work. Instead we had this half assed approach which was inconsistently applied and has not been a great success. We don’t really know much more now than we did May 1 which is truly a waste. Now we have really serious decisions to make on things like opening schools and we are doing the same thing. No consistent plan except to not let the science get in the way. Come on, we can do a lot better and learn from the last mistake.
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