Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

[21stamps]

Meanwhile in dear old England...the two kids in the house that backs on to my garden have been spending 2 hours poer day on a trampoline in their yard. They will have thigh muscles like professional football players by the end of the lock-down. Unfortunately, the springs are somewhat rusty after the winter so there is a a constant repetitive creak that is like water torture to the rest of the neighborhood. My son, who lacks patience, is threatening to creep through the hedge with a sharp knife at dead of night. I'm much more passive aggressive so have contemplated ordering a lubricant over Amazon and having it delivered to their address.

On a more positive home schooling front, I can at least report that, having spent the first day running around the garden pretending to be a fire engine ("ner nah, ner nah etc", the five year old next door has progressed to spelling and has been repeatedly heard saying "N O spells No" when her father gives her an instruction to calm down.

Awesome!! I think the weather is helping with screen time too.. it was raining and cold every day until this week. Hopefully the sun stays out!!

Just to add some perspective (partly because I’m starting to somewhat freak out) to help some folks understand where many of us are coming from, I for instance work on a base/commission split. What I do for a living isn’t important because what matters is that nobody is buying anything right now. All projects are on hold and therefore, nearly zero revenue. I’m extremely grateful and thankful for having a job (for now) but in my 15 years in this type of role there has never once been a time of zero revenue in my territory. Therefore, I’m making squat right now. Guess what??? My bills didn’t go down. My four kids still need to eat. Car payment and mortgage still need to be paid. It sucks. I get it. But it doesn’t change the fact that just because I made too much last year to qualify shouldn’t equate to not needing help now. Someone somewhere else already commented that folks like us should have been prepared. Guess what.... we were! And it’s running us dry. VERY quickly I might add. So many of my close friends, neighbors and family are dealing with unemployment and I want them to have the help as well. I just have this feeling that it’s going to be impossible to do this in a fair way and then we’re made to feel like evil selfish people for feeling that way. Sorry for venting but we all have different stories and scenarios at play.

You expressed the situation perfectly.

We have a switch and I had no idea you could do limits. But I will say you are much better than me lol. Between two kids screen time is out the window but we also have a large yard to play in so....I'm impressed with your commitment to the screen time cause and I salute you!!

Ha. Yes! The parent app is the main reason why I bought it in the first place. Parents have total control, can see what games are played, how long, set time limits, view how many days were played in the month and what the average time was. I love the parental controls. My kid hates them.

I admit that I am not a fan of video games, or at least very few. Typically my kid goes days without playing, sometimes maybe plays on 2-6 days in an entire month. We’re super busy and rarely home.
Now, with this corona stuff, he suddenly has a complete open schedule, for the first time in 5 years. Even with school work and practice on his own at home, there’s still so much open time now. So, he and his friends all talk over an app and play Fortnite , because it’s a cross platform game and all can play together. As you can see, it was out of control last week.. some of us have decided to get that to stop. New rule is- morning workout, School work, sports practice, chores, creative play, and if any time is left over then he can play theSwitch for an hour. Well, the kids have been practicing soccer together via FaceTime.. and sending photos of their chalk art, they’re also doing a fitness challenge, and his soccer teammates are doing a daily juggling challenge.. which has distracted them from playing video games. Lol. Who knows how long that will last.

 

[imsosarah]

did you even read the article YOU linked?

those numbers are “if nothing is done to slow the spread”. Which already isn’t the case, and likely more will be done than now.

It’s fear mongering for clicks. And it got yours. And mine, I suppose.

post 6802 in this thread, From earlier today, cites specialists from today saying they assume 50%, 20 hospitalized, and 3% mortality. Over the life of the whole thing. And that’s a ASSUMPTION. They have no idea. It’s all projections. Give me 10 minutes and I could find you a dozen more articles with a dozen other numbers. this could all change (and not only for the worse) hour by hour.
But you know the articles that are the most worthless to read and quote? The ones with a doomsday goal of what will happen if absolutely nothing is done. Because that train has already left the station.

and of course the numbers are exploding. Everyone knew that would happen. Our federal government reacted close to as bad as possible, and we weren’t testing anyone. We barely are now. And those tests are largely for those they expect to test positive. nothing happening now hasn’t been expected for weeks. Since we knew this was gonna be a problem.

I think we are learning from NY...and the many states that still refuse to do anything...

 

[imsosarah]

I have been lobbying non stop for the past 10 days for my industry and have been on calls pushing to save the restaurant industry with senators and reps non stop during this time along with mayors and gov in the states I operate in. What I am hearing is it looks like a May 1 target date for things to begin to churn in a normal pattern with entertainment and restaurants having restrictions until June some time.

That being said my best guess is middle of June for the parks to reopen.

The bill passing today should help!!

 

[Jwink]

There are a few things I want to say but at this time I need to keep my bleeping mouth shut. All I will say is that my husband got an update and it basically just says there’s no updates and no additional information on further closing dates/extensions.

It’s really really really frustrating not knowing what is happening after the 31st...especially knowing that universal has the intent to pay at least through the 19th

 

[TheDisneyDaysOfOurLives]

CAN. WE. PLEASE. STOP. SAYING. THIS!!!!!!

You are talking about me. As if my life is not worth anything. I am not elderly (just barely 50), but I do have a valid medical reason to be in the "underlying health issues" category. With my current medical condition, it is not predicted that I "die in a few months anyway." I am expected to live a normal, regular, long life.I am well-medicated, unfortunately, which also means I am immuno-suppressed.

Saying things like this, specifically about me, are cruel, heartless, and inhumane.

Please stop. My life matters.

(Rant over)

Yeah, I don't understand this mindset of those with underlying medical issues are months away from dying. That couldn't be further from the truth. My mother has MS and she's perfectly healthy outside of that. She's going to live a long time still (my mother had me when she was 18 so she's just cracked her 50s). I do have concern with her getting this virus, but at the same time, she can't live her life in a bubble for 12-24 months either.

There are a few things I want to say but at this time I need to keep my bleeping mouth shut. All I will say is that my husband got an update and it basically just says there’s no updates and no additional information on further closing dates/extensions.

It’s really really really frustrating not knowing what is happening after the 31st...especially knowing that universal has the intent to pay at least through the 19th

That's crazy there's not more updates. We're less than a week away. People are gearing up with the thought of going back to work (and some travelling to a state where the county is LOCKED DOWN). Disney has to do better than this right now.

 

[21stamps]

My household is in.

Anyone else doing this for your city’s baseball team?

 

[DCBaker]

There are a few things I want to say but at this time I need to keep my bleeping mouth shut. All I will say is that my husband got an update and it basically just says there’s no updates and no additional information on further closing dates/extensions.

It’s really really really frustrating not knowing what is happening after the 31st...especially knowing that universal has the intent to pay at least through the 19th

I'm so sorry. The 31st is only 6 days away - your husband should absolutely know what is going to happen by now.

 

[Jwink]

Yeah, I don't understand this mindset of those with underlying medical issues are months away from dying. That couldn't be further from the truth. My mother has MS and she's perfectly healthy outside of that. She's going to live a long time still (my mother had me when she was 18 so she's just cracked her 50s). I do have concern with her getting this virus, but at the same time, she can't live her life in a bubble for 12-24 months either.



That's crazy there's not more updates. We're less than a week away. People are gearing up with the thought of going back to work (and some travelling to a state where the county is LOCKED DOWN). Disney has to do better than this right now.

Someone mentioned they’re waiting to see what they get from the stimulus package I dunno

 

[21stamps]

 

[Bob Harlem]

Nothing today announcement wise? I guess they are waiting until after the markets close Friday.

 

[Angel Ariel]

What is clear though is children can be carriers and put others at risk.

Not children, but we just had an 18 year old and a 21 year old die over here from the virus. The 21 year old had no underlying medical issues.

And children can be high risk also. THere's 6.2 million children in this country with asthma. All people with asthma are high risk. This isn't even taking into account other conditions that could put a child into the high risk category.

 

[21stamps]

And children can be high risk also. THere's 6.2 million children in this country with asthma. All people with asthma are high risk. This isn't even taking into account other conditions that could put a child into the high risk category.

You should read the letter that I posted here.

I just really wish people would keep hysteria to a minimum when it’s not backed up by anything we know so far. Yes, a child could get sick, they could get seriously ill. However, children are the extreme minority of those who are seriously affected by this virus.

Here is the 2 most important parts of the letter I posted earlier, I know it’s several pages back now.

10 children in serious condition in Italy.
1 in the USA.

Personally, I’ll take the word of doctors in this scenario.

 

[Rimmit]

You should read the letter that I posted here.

I just really wish people would keep hysteria to a minimum when it’s not backed up by anything we know so far. Yes, a child could get sick, they could get seriously ill. However, children are the extreme minority of those who are seriously affected by this virus.

Here is the letter attached, I know it’s several pages back now.
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Yes. Agree. I deal with nothing but critically ill infants. I have yet to find any paper or article in which a child under the age of 10 has died from this. In the age group of less than 1, approximately 10 percent of infants were considered critical and 7 percent of the 1-5 age group in a study published from Wuhan. In infants, I would be more concerned with flu or RSV. (No I am not saying this is the flu). I am simply stating that I have had infants die from flu and rsv and other respiratory viruses but have yet to come across any articles, Case reports, or papers that state a previously healthy infant had died due to Coronavirus.
You can read the study from Wuhan published in Pediatrics (the main AAP peer reviewed journal here).

it might require an AAP subscription, as I am a member and I am always logged in, but I think this one may be free.

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2020/03/16/peds.2020-0702.full.pdf

 

[Angel Ariel]

You should read the letter that I posted here.

I just really wish people would keep hysteria to a minimum when it’s not backed up by anything we know so far. Yes, a child could get sick, they could get seriously ill. However, children are the extreme minority of those who are seriously affected by this virus.

Posting facts isn't hysteria. All those with asthma are listed as high-risk - direct from the CDC. (Notice the subtitle of the section this page is from is called "Are you at higher risk for Severe Illness") It is a fact that there are 6.2 million children in this country with asthma.

I'm not sitting here claiming that 6.2 million kids are going to die. That would be hysteria. I'm not saying that at all. I understand that for the vast majority of children, they will have minor symptoms. I'm well aware of this. Given that there's over 70 million children under age 18 in the country, then obviously 6.2 million is an extreme minority. Didn't really think that needed to be said. I am only saying that there are children that are at higher risk - and while it is an extreme minority overall, it's not a small number.

As a parent of a child at higher risk (not from asthma but due to her rare genetic condition), I've been paying very close attention to this entire situation. We've also been very careful about the exposure our daughter has had (as, I have no doubt, are the families of other children who are at higher risk).

 

[21stamps]

Yes. Agree. I deal with nothing but critically ill infants. I have yet to find any paper or article in which a child under the age of 10 has died from this. In the age group of less than 1, approximately 10 percent of infants were considered critical and 7 percent of the 1-5 age group in a study published from Wuhan. In infants, I would be more concerned with flu or RSV. (No I am not saying this is the flu). I am simply stating that I have had infants die from flu and rsv and other respiratory viruses but have yet to come across any articles, Case reports, or papers that state a previously healthy infant had died due to Coronavirus.
You can read the study from Wuhan published in Pediatrics (the main AAP peer reviewed journal here).

it might require an AAP subscription, as I am a member and I am always logged in, but I think this one may be free.

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2020/03/16/peds.2020-0702.full.pdf

They way it was explained to us yesterday during our sick visit was this,

Basically the Dr said, “ let’s assume this is COVID-19, we have no other way to know. Your son’s symptoms can be completely different from your own, and still be the same virus strain, which is what the studies are finding...No one knows why children are largely spared from the serious respiratory effect of the coronavirus, but the overwhelming majority are.”
He then added “Of course you could have simply had unrelated to COVID-19 pneumonia, and your son could have an unrelated viral infection. We don’t know, and won’t know. Quarantine for 2 weeks, and don’t stress about it.”

 

[21stamps]

Posting facts isn't hysteria. All those with asthma are listed as high-risk - direct from the CDC. (Notice the subtitle of the section this page is from is called "Are you at higher risk for Severe Illness") It is a fact that there are 6.2 million children in this country with asthma.

I'm not sitting here claiming that 6.2 million kids are going to die. That would be hysteria. I'm not saying that at all. I understand that for the vast majority of children, they will have minor symptoms. I'm well aware of this. Given that there's over 70 million children under age 18 in the country, then obviously 6.2 million is an extreme minority. Didn't really think that needed to be said. I am only saying that there are children that are at higher risk - and while it is an extreme minority overall, it's not a small number.

As a parent of a child at higher risk (not from asthma but due to her rare genetic condition), I've been paying very close attention to this entire situation. We've also been very careful about the exposure our daughter has had (as, I have no doubt, are the families of other children who are at higher risk).

I wanted to make sure to (re)post factual findings rather than people to start to over worry about children, based on a link of how many have asthma or other high risk conditions. I’m sure Italy and China have high risk children too, as does the US, and yet we’re not seeing a large amount of children being hospitalized, or even showing serious symptoms.
That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be careful, you should.

 

[Aries1975]

Yes. Agree. I deal with nothing but critically ill infants. I have yet to find any paper or article in which a child under the age of 10 has died from this. In the age group of less than 1, approximately 10 percent of infants were considered critical and 7 percent of the 1-5 age group in a study published from Wuhan. In infants, I would be more concerned with flu or RSV. (No I am not saying this is the flu). I am simply stating that I have had infants die from flu and rsv and other respiratory viruses but have yet to come across any articles, Case reports, or papers that state a previously healthy infant had died due to Coronavirus.
You can read the study from Wuhan published in Pediatrics (the main AAP peer reviewed journal here).

it might require an AAP subscription, as I am a member and I am always logged in, but I think this one may be free.

https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/pediatrics/early/2020/03/16/peds.2020-0702.full.pdf

I pray that you are correct. I live in NJ. We breathe the air (drink the water and swim in the ocean...) My husband and I have never been smokers. Our parents are not smokers. But both of my kids (13 & 16 - see avatar) have inhalers.

On the positive, every day it gets better. And the last two weeks, between the rain and 70-75% (guesstimate please don't argue the number) of cars in driveways, the skies are clearer than they have been in a long time.

 

[21stamps]

I pray that you are correct. I live in NJ. We breathe the air (drink the water and swim in the ocean...) My husband and I have never been smokers. Our parents are not smokers. But both of my kids (13 & 16 - see avatar) have inhalers.

On the positive, every day it gets better. And the last two weeks, between the rain and 70-75% (guesstimate please don't argue the number) of cars in driveways, the skies are clearer than they have been in a long time.

I don’t want to search for the link right now.. but did you see the NASA image of Wuhan during their quarantine? The lack of pollution, side by side image, was nearly unbelievable.
Actually, I’ll find it and post. Too incredible not to.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Posting facts isn't hysteria. All those with asthma are listed as high-risk - direct from the CDC. (Notice the subtitle of the section this page is from is called "Are you at higher risk for Severe Illness") It is a fact that there are 6.2 million children in this country with asthma.

I'm not sitting here claiming that 6.2 million kids are going to die. That would be hysteria. I'm not saying that at all. I understand that for the vast majority of children, they will have minor symptoms. I'm well aware of this. Given that there's over 70 million children under age 18 in the country, then obviously 6.2 million is an extreme minority. Didn't really think that needed to be said. I am only saying that there are children that are at higher risk - and while it is an extreme minority overall, it's not a small number.

As a parent of a child at higher risk (not from asthma but due to her rare genetic condition), I've been paying very close attention to this entire situation. We've also been very careful about the exposure our daughter has had (as, I have no doubt, are the families of other children who are at higher risk).

Excuse me for hijacking your excellent point, but you brought up a point of frustration from living in The Netherlands in the time of Coronavirus!

I also get asthma and for the first time in about a year last week started wheezing but found I only had an almost empty out-of-date Ventolin puffer on hand. So I made an appointment with the doctor who rang me as they're not taking appointments, and told me she'd send the prescription to the pharmacy who would send me a message to come and collect it. That was on Friday, when it got to Monday and I hadn't heard anything I got in touch with the clinic who told me to call the pharmacy, as pharmacies are also now closed due to coronavirus. The guy on the phone snapped that prescriptions take 3 to 4 business days and don't call again. So, it's 5 days later and still no asthma medication.

 

[Parker in NYC]

CAN. WE. PLEASE. STOP. SAYING. THIS!!!!!!

You are talking about me. As if my life is not worth anything. I am not elderly (just barely 50), but I do have a valid medical reason to be in the "underlying health issues" category. With my current medical condition, it is not predicted that I "die in a few months anyway." I am expected to live a normal, regular, long life.I am well-medicated, unfortunately, which also means I am immuno-suppressed.

Saying things like this, specifically about me, are cruel, heartless, and inhumane.

Please stop. My life matters.

(Rant over)

This. Right here. Rock on, polkadotdress!