Lucasfilm/Marvel

[WondersOfLife]

I'm having an argument with a friend who says that since Disney owns Star Wars, I can't consider myself a true Disney fan until I've seen all of the Star Wars films...

My argument with this is simply put: Lucasfilm existed for a whopping 41 years without Disney ownership, therefore, all of those original films are technically not Disney. If they don't have that Disney logo in front of them, then Disney had no part in creating those films.

I'd also argue the same for any other film under lucasfilm, muppets, and marvel...

So her NEXT argument was Star Wars' extreme presence in the park. So my next argument was "Does that mean that Marvel Studios is owned by both Universal AND Disney?" "Does that mean that the Avatar movie is actually a Disney movie?"

Help me out here.

 

[Pixieish]

I don't. If we hadn't already been longtime Star Wars fans, I definitely would go back and watch all the movies. Same for the Marvel films. And we'll probably see the new Avatar films too (but not until they come out on cable/blu ray).

 

[danlb_2000]

I'm having an argument with a friend who says that since Disney owns Star Wars, I can't consider myself a true Disney fan until I've seen all of the Star Wars films...

My argument with this is simply put: Lucasfilm existed for a whopping 41 years without Disney ownership, therefore, all of those original films are technically not Disney. If they don't have that Disney logo in front of them, then Disney had no part in creating those films.

I'd also argue the same for any other film under lucasfilm, muppets, and marvel...

So her NEXT argument was Star Wars' extreme presence in the park. So my next argument was "Does that mean that Marvel Studios is owned by both Universal AND Disney?" "Does that mean that the Avatar movie is actually a Disney movie?"

Help me out here.

Who cares what someone else's criteria for being a "true fan" is. Being a fan or not is totally up to you.

 

[JIMINYCR]

Absolutely not. You dont have to watch the SW films or even like SW to be a Disney fan. Disney has so much more to it that you dont have to like or enjoy everything to be a Disney fan. As far as the SW films being Disneys... If Disney had no part in the creation of the characters and scenes or development of the film ...what came before they bought the rights... isnt really Disney. They can slap a Disney logo on it but we really know its not Disney. Marvel is the same... Nope not Disney.

 

[ppete1975]

I'm a huge marvel star wars ... MUPPETS fan.. but they own these they didn't create them.. In my opinion even the movies after they own them. Disney to me is animation, real nature movies (although I don't watch them), the classic wild life movies of the 60's, the campy movies of the 60s 70s, and movies like tomorrowland (which I enjoyed). And of course wonderful world of Disney. That to me is Disney.

 

[KBLovedDisney]

I think the parks are pretty much (Disney & non-Disney) cartoons/movie IPs/whatever compilation madness that just somehow works.

Correction: Wow, I am seriously having trouble reading today. I thought this was asking about Disney parks. So, honestly IMHO, I don't feel like Disney actually owns Star Wars because it didn't start out that way. Same feelings in regards with pp's post about Muppets.

 

[ABQ]

Until you sit through Howard the Duck, you're not a true fan.

just kidding.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Until you sit through Howard the Duck, you're not a true fan.

just kidding.

Or ate here at Universal...."Where were you in 62?"

 

[doctornick]

Star Wars movies are Star Wars (or Lucasfilm) movies

Marvel movies are Marvel Studios movies.

Neither are "Disney" movies. Those brands are simply owned by The Walt Disney Company. "Disney movies" are a completely separate brand IMHO.

 

[erasure fan1]

I consider TFA and Rogue one Disney and all the others not. Same thing with Marvel, if it was made during Disney ownership, Disney. Of course I could give a rats butt about any of it as I just want more awesome movies.

 

[GoofGoof]

I'm having an argument with a friend who says that since Disney owns Star Wars, I can't consider myself a true Disney fan until I've seen all of the Star Wars films...

My argument with this is simply put: Lucasfilm existed for a whopping 41 years without Disney ownership, therefore, all of those original films are technically not Disney. If they don't have that Disney logo in front of them, then Disney had no part in creating those films.

I'd also argue the same for any other film under lucasfilm, muppets, and marvel...

So her NEXT argument was Star Wars' extreme presence in the park. So my next argument was "Does that mean that Marvel Studios is owned by both Universal AND Disney?" "Does that mean that the Avatar movie is actually a Disney movie?"

Help me out here.

Your friend is right, you should see all of the Star Wars movies...not because they are owned by Disney now but because you really just need to see them all. Even the prequels (if for no other reason than to understand why the rest of us despise Jar Jar)

Technically the new Star Wars stuff is only going to be based on the new trilogy of movies so if it’s just for theme parks you can skip the first 6 and Rogue One, but you are really missing out

 

[danlb_2000]

Star Wars movies are Star Wars (or Lucasfilm) movies

Marvel movies are Marvel Studios movies.

Neither are "Disney" movies. Those brands are simply owned by The Walt Disney Company. "Disney movies" are a completely separate brand IMHO.

What about Pixar?

 

[GVentola]

You should see the official "Oh My Disney" blog page. Whatever Disney-owned film comes out, be it true Disney, Marvel, Muppets, or Lucasfilm, they rave it up and act so excited over it. Well, I guess that's their job to promote Disney's interests and advertise their movies. While I'll watch any Star Wars film, and have seen many of Marvel's, I don't think it's necessary to watch them all, though watching them helps me to understand any theme park attraction based on them better. I would think it a shame to think of all of those films as one hundred percent Disney, as some include profanity, more intense violence, and adult situations than a Disney animated classic would.

 

[Pixieish]

You should see the official "Oh My Disney" blog page. Whatever Disney-owned film comes out, be it true Disney, Marvel, Muppets, or Lucasfilm, they rave it up and act so excited over it. Well, I guess that's their job to promote Disney's interests and advertise their movies. While I'll watch any Star Wars film, and have seen many of Marvel's, I don't think it's necessary to watch them all, though watching them helps me to understand any theme park attraction based on them better. I would think it a shame to think of all of those films as one hundred percent Disney, as some include profanity, more intense violence, and adult situations than a Disney animated classic would.

Disney has been releasing films geared for adults for decades under different distributor names.

 

[larryz]

I'm having an argument with a friend who says that since Disney owns Star Wars, I can't consider myself a true Disney fan until I've seen all of the Star Wars films...

My argument with this is simply put: Lucasfilm existed for a whopping 41 years without Disney ownership, therefore, all of those original films are technically not Disney. If they don't have that Disney logo in front of them, then Disney had no part in creating those films.

I'd also argue the same for any other film under lucasfilm, muppets, and marvel...

So her NEXT argument was Star Wars' extreme presence in the park. So my next argument was "Does that mean that Marvel Studios is owned by both Universal AND Disney?" "Does that mean that the Avatar movie is actually a Disney movie?"

Help me out here.

I marked "I'm confused." Why is this even a thing?

 

[WondersOfLife]

I marked "I'm confused." Why is this even a thing?

I was offended. #2017

 

[Mickey5150]

Technically being owned by Disney makes them Disney movies. However, the only way to be a true Disney fan is to have seen all the Touchstone Pictures film, lol.

 

[AshaNeOmah]

What about Pixar?

This is the real question. Do you consider Toy Story 1 and 2, Monsters Inc., the Incredibles, Finding Nemo, and the other early Pixar works 'Disney movies'? Disney simply worked as a distributor and had no hand in production. Really, they're more Lucasfilm movies than Disney movies since the Pixar computer was designed at ILM.

If they're Disney movies, then I guess Return of the Jedi can be too.

 

[WondersOfLife]

This is the real question. Do you consider Toy Story 1 and 2, Monsters Inc., the Incredibles, Finding Nemo, and the other early Pixar works 'Disney movies'? Disney simply worked as a distributor and had no hand in production. Really, they're more Lucasfilm movies than Disney movies since the Pixar computer was designed at ILM.

If they're Disney movies, then I guess Return of the Jedi can be too.

I'd consider them Disney, because Disney DID play a big part in their project in some shape or form. Even if it was distribution* Unlike the first 40+ years of Lucasfilm.

 

[AshaNeOmah]

I'd consider them Disney, because Disney DID play a big part in their project in some shape or form. Even if it was distribution* Unlike the first 40+ years of Lucasfilm.

But they didn't. They basically just used the Buena Vista network to get them to theaters. AFAIK, Disney had absolutely nothing to do with their development or production. Remember, Pixar was only days away from signing with someone else for distribution rights until Disney flat out bought the company.

Edit: So Disney was definitely more involved in financing the original Pixar films that I originally thought, but they weren't involved in the actual production by the time they arrived at a finished product. That was pure Pixar.