DAK Live entertainment in Pandora

[TyTrap]

Not sure if this has been discussed or not but I've been wondering if they will use performers for live entertainment within pandora and how they will go about doing it. Will the performers be in full navi get up with stilts? I'm positive they won't use the army characters from avatar as the live performers because they are the antithesis of what AK represents. Just wanted to get some ideas from everyone on this because I don't think it's been touched on much.

 

[flyerjab]

Not sure if this has been discussed or not but I've been wondering if they will use performers for live entertainment within pandora and how they will go about doing it. Will the performers be in full navi get up with stilts? I'm positive they won't use the army characters from avatar as the live performers because they are the antithesis of what AK represents. Just wanted to get some ideas from everyone on this because I don't think it's been touched on much.

I have posted about this previously but was unable to get any traction. If you go back and listen and/or watch any youtube video releases concerning Avatar, or read any blog articles that quote Cameron, Staggs, Landau, etc., there are some that hint at nighttime entertainment offerings in this section of the park. Of course, it is not expanded upon to any degree.

I would think that since this expansion is being built to act almost like some type of umbilical apparatus to keep guests in DAK at night, that there would be some type of outdoor live entertainment aside from the fact that the very land itself will come alive at night via the bioluminescence of the trees and plants. The new Rivers of Light show coming to this park should be great but will only accommodate so many guests. I think that they will need more beyond that show, and Pandora should be a targeted location to provide this as the backdrop in this expansion - you know, floating mountains and all - will be both unique and phenomenal.

As far as cast members dressed up to look like the Na'vi characters, that will be tough to reproduce. People on stilts, IMHO, will not provide a realistic enough representation of what these creatures truly look like. Maybe if the show is presented as some type of human reenactment of Na'vi customs and the cast members are dressed up to resemble Na'vi characters, that might be one approach. I will just be curious to see how the imagineers tackle this park of the expansion, including any dining locations. Staying on theme with some of these offerings should prove a challenge, and one that I am interested in seeing how they handle them.

 

[TyTrap]

I have posted about this previously but was unable to get any traction. If you go back and listen and/or watch any youtube video releases concerning Avatar, or read any blog articles that quote Cameron, Staggs, Landau, etc., there are some that hint at nighttime entertainment offerings in this section of the park. Of course, it is not expanded upon to any degree.

I would think that since this expansion is being built to act almost like some type of umbilical apparatus to keep guests in DAK at night, that there would be some type of outdoor live entertainment aside from the fact that the very land itself will come alive at night via the bioluminescence of the trees and plants. The new Rivers of Light show coming to this park should be great but will only accommodate so many guests. I think that they will need more beyond that show, and Pandora should be a targeted location to provide this as the backdrop in this expansion - you know, floating mountains and all - will be both unique and phenomenal.

As far as cast members dressed up to look like the Na'vi characters, that will be tough to reproduce. People on stilts, IMHO, will not provide a realistic enough representation of what these creatures truly look like. Maybe if the show is presented as some type of human reenactment of Na'vi customs and the cast members are dressed up to resemble Na'vi characters, that might be one approach. I will just be curious to see how the imagineers tackle this park of the expansion, including any dining locations. Staying on theme with some of these offerings should prove a challenge, and one that I am interested in seeing how they handle them.

I agree I think that's the most intriguing thing to me how will wdi pull this off. From a rumor I heard the restaurant would be an army mess hall but I don't think that would wow anyone it should be like a pandora version of rain forest cafe I think that would be cool.

 

[danlb_2000]

I have posted about this previously but was unable to get any traction. If you go back and listen and/or watch any youtube video releases concerning Avatar, or read any blog articles that quote Cameron, Staggs, Landau, etc., there are some that hint at nighttime entertainment offerings in this section of the park. Of course, it is not expanded upon to any degree.

I would think that since this expansion is being built to act almost like some type of umbilical apparatus to keep guests in DAK at night, that there would be some type of outdoor live entertainment aside from the fact that the very land itself will come alive at night via the bioluminescence of the trees and plants. The new Rivers of Light show coming to this park should be great but will only accommodate so many guests. I think that they will need more beyond that show, and Pandora should be a targeted location to provide this as the backdrop in this expansion - you know, floating mountains and all - will be both unique and phenomenal.

As far as cast members dressed up to look like the Na'vi characters, that will be tough to reproduce. People on stilts, IMHO, will not provide a realistic enough representation of what these creatures truly look like. Maybe if the show is presented as some type of human reenactment of Na'vi customs and the cast members are dressed up to resemble Na'vi characters, that might be one approach. I will just be curious to see how the imagineers tackle this park of the expansion, including any dining locations. Staying on theme with some of these offerings should prove a challenge, and one that I am interested in seeing how they handle them.

I agree with you about the Na'vi being hard to accurately reproduce. They are not just tall, but are proportinally larger then humans in all respects. Here is a good picture of a Na'vi and human close together.

 

[flyerjab]

I agree with you about the Na'vi being hard to accurately reproduce. They are not just tall, but are proportinally larger then humans in all respects. Here is a good picture of a Na'vi and human close together.

In that picture alone you can see the difference in the length of the Na'vi arm against Jake Sully's arm. Now I need to stop myself before I start to sound way too much like an ultra-nerd.

There are some basic conceits to the addition of Pandora already. Disney always likes to have back stories that make 'sense' in some respect. Well, the fact that a moon that has animal/plant life sustained by an atmosphere drastically different than Earth's is interesting in and of itself. I am certain that Disney purists will wrangle with this internally as to how we can automatically be transported to the Pandora moon and walk around without some type of explanation as to how we are not suffocating in the Pandoran atmosphere.

I never get drawn into this type of conundrum. How Na'vi characters will be implemented throughout the expansion beyond AAs will be interesting to me.

 

[kap91]

I pretty much can guarantee they're not gonna dress up cms as navi for meet and greets. There's no costume good enough.

Now animatronics or meet and greets with animals ala universals old triceratops encounter? That's an idea that could work.

 

[kap91]

There are some basic conceits to the addition of Pandora already. Disney always likes to have back stories that make 'sense' in some respect. Well, the fact that a moon that has animal/plant life sustained by an atmosphere drastically different than Earth's is interesting in and of itself. I am certain that Disney purists will wrangle with this internally as to how we can automatically be transported to the Pandora moon and walk around without some type of explanation as to how we are not suffocating in the Pandoran atmosphere.

False problem. They might try to come up with an explanation for the air thing (seems a perfect excuse for an active 3d mask though for the ride). But in the same park you can walk between Africa and Asia in 5 minutes, take a train up the Himalayas in a Tshirt and shorts without dying of exposure, you're somehow shrunk to the size of an insect to see bugs do Broadway and then enlarged back to normal without Wayne Salinksky anywhere to be found, and fish talk and sing while humans hold onto poles stuck up their butts. Theme parks revolve around plot holes and suspension of disbelief. I don't see why Pandora need be any different.

 

[flyerjab]

False problem. They might try to come up with an explanation for the air thing (seems a perfect excuse for an active 3d mask though for the ride). But in the same park you can walk between Africa and Asia in 5 minutes, take a train up the Himalayas in a Tshirt and shorts without dying of exposure, you're somehow shrunk to the size of an insect to see bugs do Broadway and then enlarged back to normal without Wayne Salinksky anywhere to be found, and fish talk and sing while humans hold onto poles stuck up their butts. Theme parks revolve around plot holes and suspension of disbelief. I don't see why Pandora need be any different.

Completely agree with this post. I just know that there will be others that will have some sort of theme issue with this, or sightline problems, or whatever.

 

[kap91]

Completely agree with this post. I just know that there will be others that will have some sort of theme issue with this, or sightline problems, or whatever.

Thanks. Though sight line problems are not the same thing, unless you mean being able to see one part of the park from another in a transitional area. Being able to see show buildings, backstage areas, etc easily is a huge pet peeve of mine ---one I tend to get on Universals case for (see the gringotts overflow queue) ---and would be forced to do so for Disney if they did something equally audacious. I'm already worried they'll not finish the backside and you'll have an eyesore that won't go away until the trees grow ala Everest when it was built. Although at least that wouldn't be in the park.

 

[Steel City Magic]

As far as cast members dressed up to look like the Na'vi characters, that will be tough to reproduce. People on stilts, IMHO, will not provide a realistic enough representation of what these creatures truly look like. Maybe if the show is presented as some type of human reenactment of Na'vi customs and the cast members are dressed up to resemble Na'vi characters, that might be one approach. I will just be curious to see how the imagineers tackle this park of the expansion, including any dining locations. Staying on theme with some of these offerings should prove a challenge, and one that I am interested in seeing how they handle them.

Now I'm picturing massive na'vi puppets a la the lion king broadway show

 

[flyerjab]

This is the first post from another thread in the Avatar section.

Potential La Nouba replacement?

From Variety:

Daniel Lamarre, president and CEO of Cirque du Soleil announced the details of the show, which will debut in late 2015, Thursday in Montreal during the international business C2MTL– Commerce + Creativity Conference.

Twentieth Century Fox, the financier and distributor of “Avatar” and its planned sequels, will act as a partner on the live show, as will Jon Landau’s Lightstorm Entertainment.

“Avatar remains a phenomenon that continues to inspire people around the globe, and combining it with the live event ingenuity of Cirque de Soleil is a perfect synthesis of imagination and talent,” said Jim Gianopulos, 20th Century Fox’s chief, in a statement.

The live show is expected to debut before the first of three announced “Avatar” sequels is released. Cameron is currently in pre-production on the follow-up.

“Over the years, I have discovered the extraordinary talents and imaginations of both the artists and the creative forces behind Cirque du Soleil,” said James Cameron in a statement. “I know we share the common goal of bringing audiences to another level of entertainment experiences. I look forward to doing just that on this project.”

The 2009 film grossed $2.7 billion worldwide, and still stands as the highest grossing film of all time, followed by Cameron’s “Titanic.”

“Our relationship with Jim Cameron began with my visit at his ‘Avatar’ cutting room,” Lamarre said in a statement. “I am thrilled that almost 5 years later, Cirque du Soleil will be able to explore the very inspirational ‘Avatar’ realm for the live stage. This will mark our second creative project with Jim and I believe it will be as stimulating for both our creative forces.”

The only reason I post this is because I thought that it would be really neat if a very small scale show was performed in Pandora as part of the added attractions to go along with the rides. I don't know if it would be possible to do, but I find it interesting that Cameron has been enamored by the acrobatic troop. He helped produce a movie for them (that has some absolutely amazing visuals and stunts) and is now working with them to develop and Avatar based show, as well as working with WDW to produce an Avatar based expansion in DAK. I never read that this was ever hinted at, I just was wondering if it could potentially happen at some point. I know that the imagineers are working to change up the show/entertainment aspect of DAK with Rivers of Light, a refurbed Tree of Life, as well as something with the space in front of the Tree of Life Garden. Maybe they could look beyond that to Pandora and add something with a Cirque flair to it. It doesn't have to be grand, it just has to be really cool. I think that it would be a no-brainer (aside from cost of course).

 

[dstrawn9889]

ok, first off, have you ever seen a cirque show? there is too much in the way of infrastructure necessary for it to be street performers or a quick little outdoor venue... the rigging involved above must be hideous inside the cirque 'tent' at DTD/DS

 

[flyerjab]

ok, first off, have you ever seen a cirque show? there is too much in the way of infrastructure necessary for it to be street performers or a quick little outdoor venue... the rigging involved above must be hideous inside the cirque 'tent' at DTD/DS

To directly answer your question, yes I have most certainly seen a cirque show l- several actually. And yes, the gist of the post was to indicate that I am fully aware of the scope of the actual shows and indicated that it need not be grand in any way whatsoever. Actually, my main point was that it could have a flair to it akin to a cirque show. Ultimately it would be something unique, a show with smaller cirque elements to it as most cirque performances are indeed monstrous in scale. It was just a thought.

 

[dstrawn9889]

k misread the post then, carry on

 

[flyerjab]

k misread the post then, carry on

No worries.

 

[George]

I think we're going to get Jake Sulley and his forest friends.

All joking aside, a nice little 15-20 minute show of some kind would be neat. DAK already has 3 great shows. Why not go for a fourth?

 

[George]

OMG. I was just hired. Starting in March of 2017, I will be in the middle of Pandora on an elevated stage reading from my Pandoran poetry book, "To Touch a Floating Mountain with your Soul."

 

[George]

^^^^^^My show will take place 7 times a day, with the first showing at 9:18 am. The 7 poems I'm thinking of reading will take approximately 14 minutes. I'll really ham it up. It should be fantastic.

 

[Bob]

^^^^^^My show will take place 7 times a day, with the first showing at 9:18 am. The 7 poems I'm thinking of reading will take approximately 14 minutes. I'll really ham it up. It should be fantastic.

Why do I think that every one of your poems is going to start with "there once was a man from Nantucket"?

 

[flyerjab]

^^^^^^My show will take place 7 times a day, with the first showing at 9:18 am. The 7 poems I'm thinking of reading will take approximately 14 minutes. I'll really ham it up. It should be fantastic.

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