Disney Irish
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Because it has a line with sleigh bells being one of the favorite things.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Animaniac93-98
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Zootopia 2 now has a $140-$150 million 5-day opening estimate
Wicked: For Good $61 million second weekend ($268 million by Sunday)
Wicked: For Good $61 million second weekend ($268 million by Sunday)
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Making it only the 2nd movie besides Stitch to hit that mark. And means its making it very likely then that Avatar will be the 3rd and final $1B+ movie* of the year. Making Disney the only Studio this year to have not one but the only 3 Billion dollar movies.
*Wicked: For Good has stopped reporting numbers on Tuesday, evidently Uni took a vacation and didn't think they needed to report numbers. But unless International picks up it doesn't look like it'll hit $1B.
BrianLo
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It’s certainly more a matter of 1.X now than will it clear 1. There’s some mild possibilities it approaches half a billion in China alone. I was going to say the comps were Zootopia 1 and Moana 2, but perhaps Inside Out 2 is an unexpected comp. Though the former two much better as the floor and holding the same release window.
I wish I logged my prediction on Wicked ages ago before it was obvious. I thought it was going to be a better opening, but worse hold than last years. With a final total just under it. Still great all things considered. That seems to be playing out.
And asterisks that it’s the only Hollywood Billion earners, not to minimize Ne Zha 2. I will also give my nod to what I personally feel is a closeted billion dollar movie (K-Pop Demon Hunters).
The theme of this year is four quad but woman leaning, musical, animated, Asian + foreign box office. The big domestic “Americana” plays were not this years box office magic. Demon slayer was bigger than Superman or Fantastic 4. We are going to have some pretty interesting downstream content decisional shifts.
Baloo124
Premium Member
I never considered that song as Christmas themed. Not sure why anyone would based on a few short lines.
The movie itself has been shown quite a bit during the holiday season in the past, which makes no sense either considering it's an Arnold Schwarzenegger action flick.
It’s not… a setting is not the plot…. Not to mention the film was released in July as a big summer blockbuster that year
Nevermore525
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Universal woke up from their Thanksgiving slumber to post numbers through Friday. Wicked:For Good sits at $233M domestically. Wicked was at $213M at the same point in its run (was a $35M gap after opening weekend)
For Good should still eke out ahead of the first one domestically by the end of its run and we’ll see what happens internationally.
For Good should still eke out ahead of the first one domestically by the end of its run and we’ll see what happens internationally.
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
It's been trailing behind the first one domestically by $1M-$5M everyday since Monday, so much so that it was $35M ahead now its less $20M ahead, ie its losing ground. At this rate it'll fall behind completely potentially in another week, two at the most. It had a good opening weekend, but hasn't maintained that momentum. I honestly don't see it surpassing the first one at this point. Especially not now that Z2 has opened and Avatar 3 around the corner.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
No matter how much percentage Disney takes home from China it appears that it's going to safely get over a Billion.
Its currently sitting at $233M globally, and looks to have a potential $525M+ total 5 day.
deadline.com
Its currently sitting at $233M globally, and looks to have a potential $525M+ total 5 day.
‘Zootopia 2’ Hopping To $525M+ Global Opening; Overtakes ‘Avengers: Endgame’ Record For Biggest Hollywood Single-Day In China – International Box Office
Zootopia 2 is poised for a $525M+ global box office opening through Sunday; has overtaken Avengers: Endgame for Hollywood’s biggest single day in China
deadline.com
Nevermore525
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Updated long term China estimations have Zootopia 2 possibly topping what Avengers: Endgame did in its entire run in the country, so somewhere above $600M from China, would about cover the $150M listed production cost for the film at 25% return.
It will be interesting to see what happens in the end…. Moana is a bigger IP than Zootopia…. So it was never expected to top the former opening weekend…. However this film feels as if it has the better word of mouth with many saying this has bested the original quality wise
BrianLo
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It’s very interesting in general to say what the company was expecting here. They just finished giving guidance that they anticipated this current quarter would be down 400M from last year. Sure Tron contributes to 200M (rounding up to be cautious). Avatar is always going to make the majority of its money next quarter (the costs hit the books this one)… but is it not going to compare more favourably to Mufasa in basically any scenario?
I know you set a low bar with guidance, but the bar they were setting was no upside to Avatar, Z2 with 500-600M lifetime. Or upside to Avatar and an even lower tally for Z2.
As you say though, domestically Moana is a bigger franchise. No box office value will really move me from that position. If this one overtakes Moana 2 somehow, it’s because it’s the better movie.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
But it’s inferior to the ultimate Christmas movie…gremlins
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Getting back on track a bit, my long standing position is that South Korea is the number one currently underserved major market of fans. They are an incredibly reliable market for Disney films these days. I’m curious to see Japan’s reception, they didn’t strike me as sharing remotely the affinity for Zoo, but S Korea acts as a bridge.
TalkingHead
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I’m most curious to see if the domestic box office for 2025 equals 2024 when inflation is factored in. After this weekend, it’s going to be about 1.5-2% ahead of 2024 in flat numbers.
Nevermore525
Well-Known Member
Wicked: For Good with the normal front loaded sequel performance drop. Down 57% from opening weekend vs the first parts 38% drop from last year.
Through two weekends domestically -
Wicked - $263.19M
Wicked: For Good - $270.44M
$35M gap closed to under $10M
Through two weekends domestically -
Wicked - $263.19M
Wicked: For Good - $270.44M
$35M gap closed to under $10M
Nevermore525
Well-Known Member
$556M global with $270+ from China estimated for Zootopia 2
www.hollywoodreporter.com
Box Office: ‘Zootopia 2’ Rules Thanksgiving With $158M U.S. Opening, Record-Smashing $560M Globally
Disney's sequel boasts the biggest worldwide launch of all time for an animated pic, among numerous other box office records. Elsewhere, 'Wicked: For Good' is about to hit another major milestone.
www.hollywoodreporter.com