MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[JD80]

Only time I've been injured at WDW was walking through the escape tunnel in the Fort. Happened twice.

 

[jah4955]

It is all the non-spreadsheetable reasons to keep it and the intrinsic impact it has on guests emotions that they don't even realize is impacting them and may motivate them to return - obviously hard to quantify that

The prime motivation for Disney should be the creation of experiences guests will want to go on "again and again" in perpetuity. For example, Walt saw that in the plethora of details that were impossible to catch within just one trip on Pirates as the motivator for making return trips (and that's when you had to pay separately for each ride). It's a "win-win:" Satisfied guests. "Turnstiles" keep turning. Disney keeps making bank in all its synergic ways. Only time will tell, but I fear what will come will leave most guests feeling like it was only worth doing once at most.

 

[peter11435]

Only time will tell, but I fear what will come will leave most guests feeling like it was only worth doing once at most.

The project is replacing the Riverboat and TSI. Two attractions that most guests didn’t even do once.

 

[mlayton144]

It’s very rich some people are complaining about the crowds that will want to descend on piston peak - god forbid Disney has more people wanting to patronize their theme parks - actual paying customers not armchair imagineers

 

[jah4955]

The project is replacing the Riverboat and TSI. Two attractions that most guests didn’t even do once.

It's been thoroughly established by now over the previous 14 months that there are those who loved these attractions (a likely minority) and those who felt indifferent towards them at best (a likely majority). My point wasn't to rehash that for the umpteenth time but to simply, solely express my hope that what will come next will be worthwhile.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

The prime motivation for Disney should be the creation of experiences guests will want to go on "again and again" in perpetuity. For example, Walt saw that in the plethora of details that were impossible to catch within just one trip on Pirates as the motivator for making return trips (and that's when you had to pay separately for each ride). It's a "win-win:" Satisfied guests. "Turnstiles" keep turning. Disney keeps making bank in all its synergic ways. Only time will tell, but I fear what will come will leave most guests feeling like it was only worth doing once at most.

That is the big question - I think there is potential for the new areas to appeal much more to Tammany guests and will get them to return, certainly be high in reason to visit in the first place or return for new things if haven't been in a while

But we shall see - definitely removing a known for an unknown, at least long term

 

[jah4955]

It's been thoroughly established by now over the previous 14 months that there are those who loved these attractions (a likely minority) and those who felt indifferent towards them at best (a likely majority). My point wasn't to rehash that for the umpteenth time but to simply, solely express my hope that what will come next will be worthwhile.

But since it came up...I'm now on record as believing that I am at-least-tied-for-1st-place-biggest-fan-EVER of TSI, LB & RoA, and I am at-least-as-skeptical-as-ever that cartoony cars in Frontierland will ever come-close to what it will replace. Go ahead. Hate me.

 

[LittleBlackRainCloud]

The project is replacing the Riverboat and TSI. Two attractions that most guests didn’t even do once.

Regardless, it was a piece of history. And now we’re replacing it with a circus of googly-eyed-eye-sores in a location that doesn’t even make sense.

Not picking a fight, I’m sure kids will enjoy it and so I guess that’s something (that’s my only bright side here).. but I can’t see how it would be more fun than being a kid and putting your imagination to work after absorbing so much wonder in the mainland part of the park. It was a breathing spot, a place to relax… something I personally always look for at some point when visiting a theme park. I’m sad to see it go.

 

[JD80]

But since it came up...I'm now on record as believing that I am at-least-tied-for-1st-place-biggest-fan-EVER of TSI, LB & RoA, and I am at-least-as-skeptical-as-ever that cartoony cars in Frontierland will ever come-close to what it will replace. Go ahead. Hate me.

Why would anyone hate you. You have a valid opinion. You don't tell anyone else their opinion is wrong and you're not doomcasting at all.

Nothing wrong with what your saying.

 

[jah4955]

That is the big question - I think there is potential for the new areas to appeal much more to Tammany guests and will get them to return, certainly be high in reason to visit in the first place or return for new things if haven't been in a while

But we shall see - definitely removing a known for an unknown, at least long term

I believe everything boils down to this for everyone....the feel. I kept returning. I kept anticipating my return trips as soon as I returned home...All because of the unique feel of each individual attraction, feelings I couldn't find repeated anywhere else whatsoever. Even different versions of the same attraction gave different feels. For example, I have unique positive feelings with SSE 1986, 1994, and 2007 (in-spite of the horrible ending). I realize that's a combination of factors, including the attractions themselves and the person I was at the time of the visits. We are each unrepeatable combinations of nature/nurture, so I acknowledge that what one person responds to could have no effect on another (& vice versa). But.... Disney became Disney by having as universal an appeal as possible. Getting as many people to feel as possible. Disneyland just marked 1 billion visitors. That's a lot of feelings.

 

[LittleBlackRainCloud]

I believe everything boils down to this for everyone....the feel. I kept returning. I kept anticipating my return trips as soon as I returned home...All because of the unique feel of each individual attraction, feelings I couldn't find repeated anywhere else whatsoever. Even different versions of the same attraction gave different feels. For example, I have unique positive feelings with SSE 1986, 1994, and 2007 (in-spite of the horrible ending). I realize that's a combination of factors, including the attractions themselves and the person I was at the time of the visits. We are each unrepeatable combinations of nature/nurture, so I acknowledge that what one person responds to could have no effect on another (& vice versa). But.... Disney became Disney by having as universal an appeal as possible. Getting as many people to feel as possible. Disneyland just marked 1 billion visitors. That's a lot of feelings.

Hit the nail on the head. Great post.

 

[FerretAfros]

The project is replacing the Riverboat and TSI. Two attractions that most guests didn’t even do once.

As has been said countless times, much of the appeal of those attractions was the atmosphere that they provided. Two of the park’s 5 lands are organized around the presence of the river, and will no longer make sense without it. The presence of those attractions added to the guests’ experience in the park, regardless of whether they passed through their turnstiles.

It’s very rich some people are complaining about the crowds that will want to descend on piston peak - god forbid Disney has more people wanting to patronize their theme parks - actual paying customers not armchair imagineers

God forbid that Disney spends hundreds of millions of dollars (likely well over a billion if we include the villains project) that actually improves the overall park experience. If you know something is going to be popular, it should have the capacity (attraction throughput, dining, shopping, park infrastructure, etc.) to support it. While the new ride may be fun, there is little indication that this project will make MK a more pleasant place to visit overall.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I believe everything boils down to this for everyone....the feel. I kept returning. I kept anticipating my return trips as soon as I returned home...All because of the unique feel of each individual attraction, feelings I couldn't find repeated anywhere else whatsoever. Even different versions of the same attraction gave different feels. For example, I have unique positive feelings with SSE 1986, 1994, and 2007 (in-spite of the horrible ending). I realize that's a combination of factors, including the attractions themselves and the person I was at the time of the visits. We are each unrepeatable combinations of nature/nurture, so I acknowledge that what one person responds to could have no effect on another (& vice versa). But.... Disney became Disney by having as universal an appeal as possible. Getting as many people to feel as possible. Disneyland just marked 1 billion visitors. That's a lot of feelings.

yeah, very true - and we shall see if the new area creates more feelings for more people - for some, that didn't get "feels" from what was there, or not to a great degree ... or if it doesn't create that.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

As has been said countless times, much of the appeal of those attractions was the atmosphere that they provided. Two of the park’s 5 lands are organized around the presence of the river, and will no longer make sense without it. The presence of those attractions added to the guests’ experience in the park, regardless of whether they passed through their turnstiles.


God forbid that Disney spends hundreds of millions of dollars (likely well over a billion if we include the villains project) that actually improves the overall park experience. If you know something is going to be popular, it should have the capacity (attraction throughput, dining, shopping, park infrastructure, etc.) to support it. While the new ride may be fun, there is little indication that this project will make MK a more pleasant place to visit overall.

and little indication it won't - really have to see the final project. I am very excited for the walking paths and rainbow pools that extend down from Big Thunder and those elements - and obviously potential for Villains land to be an amazing experience

It will definitely be different but I very much think it could be an overall more pleasant trip to MK for more people

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

As has been said countless times, much of the appeal of those attractions was the atmosphere that they provided. Two of the park’s 5 lands are organized around the presence of the river, and will no longer make sense without it. The presence of those attractions added to the guests’ experience in the park, regardless of whether they passed through their turnstiles.


God forbid that Disney spends hundreds of millions of dollars (likely well over a billion if we include the villains project) that actually improves the overall park experience. If you know something is going to be popular, it should have the capacity (attraction throughput, dining, shopping, park infrastructure, etc.) to support it. While the new ride may be fun, there is little indication that this project will make MK a more pleasant place to visit overall.

I mean there is still a river according to the most recent concept art. Its just much smaller

 

[BrianLo]

God forbid that Disney spends hundreds of millions of dollars (likely well over a billion if we include the villains project) that actually improves the overall park experience. If you know something is going to be popular, it should have the capacity (attraction throughput, dining, shopping, park infrastructure, etc.) to support it. While the new ride may be fun, there is little indication that this project will make MK a more pleasant place to visit overall.

In isolation no, pretty much nothing new makes the parks more pleasant in the short term than just prior to it opening.

Decade on decade? I do largely feel MK is finally in a better place due to the post pandemic declines and they are taking advantage of that. It was unthinkable last decade to take offline so many things and not make that park insufferable. Finally, I feel like they are ahead of the curve and there should be a rather sizable attraction capacity expansion coming off this. With still the ability to refurbish their attractions without breaking the park.

 

[jah4955]

In isolation no, pretty much nothing new makes the parks more pleasant in the short term than just prior to it opening.

Decade on decade? I do largely feel MK is finally in a better place due to the post pandemic declines and they are taking advantage of that. It was unthinkable last decade to take offline so many things and not make that park insufferable. Finally, I feel like they are ahead of the curve and there should be a rather sizable attraction capacity expansion coming off this. With still the ability to refurbish their attractions without breaking the park.

You mean like when they closed half of Disneyland at-once c. 1962 for reno/expansion (nm times they closed virtually all TL in 1966 and virtually all FL in1982)?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I mean there is still a river according to the most recent concept art. Its just much smaller

That river isn’t the central organizing design element.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I wonder how many pages this thread will have in 3 to 5 years when cars land opens for previews and then how many more pages it will grow to after cars land is open and folks talk about what they think about it?

Oh boy, we got a long way to go!

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I mean there is still a river according to the most recent concept art. Its just much smaller

But not a living river with steamboats and rafts traveling it. I’m guessing it will be more of a stream like we have in fantasyland. Which is fine. I’m certainly hoping it looks nice.