Marvel's Fantastic Four

[MisterPenguin]

“Condé Nast had purchased the assets from Disney Corporation in 2003 for over $650 million. Two of Fairchild's properties, Style.com and W, remained under Condé Nast's ownership.”

Woops, don't know how I missed that.

The Fairchild publishing company was part of ABC and Disney acquired it with ABC. It was quickly sold off.

So... in the end... we can all agree that Disney has no ownership control over Penske and especially, no control over Penske's show biz magazines/sites, right? Deadline isn't a sleeper agent, right?

 

[Disney Irish]

“Condé Nast had purchased the assets from Disney Corporation in 2003 for over $650 million. Two of Fairchild's properties, Style.com and W, remained under Condé Nast's ownership.”

That article was incorrect, they were sold in 1999.

Conde Nast to Buy Disney Unit

Publishing: Fairchild will be sold for about $650 million, source says. The deal is part of entertainment giant's refocus on core assets.

www.latimes.com

Even still none of that proves that Disney has any ownership over Penske Media at any point. As the Conde' assets were sold 15 years later.

So again you're still incorrect in your assertion that Disney owned/owns Penske or Deadline.

 

[Tha Realest]

Well they did lowball by $7M.

And you insisted the final worldwide gross would be double what it’ll wind up making, and insulted those who suggested otherwise.

 

[coffeefan]

 

[Tha Realest]

Least it will break even and avoid losing money.

Yeah probably not.

Does this have to do with her fictional character’s experiences or is it a meta-commentary on the dim future prospects of stand-alone F4 sequels?

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah probably not.

It does look poised to break $500M by the end of its run, which is the traditional breakeven for a $200M budget movie.

So what are you considering breakeven for this movie if not $500M?

 

[coffeefan]

Yeah probably not.

Does this have to do with her fictional character’s experiences or is it a meta-commentary on the dim future prospects of stand-alone F4 sequels?

Standalone sequels are not the norm in the MCU.

 

[Tha Realest]

It does look poised to break $500M by the end of its run, which is the traditional breakeven for a $200M budget movie.

So what are you considering breakeven for this movie if not $500M?

We’ve discussed this. The only official quasi-sourced statement for the budget was that it was “north of $200M.” Your response was that doesn’t really matter, as that could include a final budget of $200,000,000.01. This was such a silly comment I ignored it at the time, as reasonable people would not conclude the budget is “only” $200M, and your constant asserting this as fact is misleading.

 

[Disney Irish]

We’ve discussed this. The only official quasi-sourced statement for the budget was that it was “north of $200M.” Your response was that doesn’t really matter, as that could include a final budget of $200,000,000.01. This was such a silly comment I ignored it at the time, as reasonable people would not conclude the budget is “only” $200M, and your constant asserting this as fact is misleading.

Except you never really said what your breakeven figure would be as I recall, just trying to use inflation adjusted movies from the past as some basis.

And so again "north of" could really mean anything. It could be $1B, or it could be $675M, it could even be $200,250,000 as that is still "north of".

Which is why I said it doesn't really matter for our purposes, as all sites are using $200M as the budget. So that is the figure we use for our purposes of discussion of breakeven.

So yeah, what is the breakeven figure you're using if its not $500M?

 

[coffeefan]

500m is essentially the BEP, unless reporting was wrong, but we have to work with what we know. So all he VOD purchases, rentalals, merch sales, and streaming advertising revenue will be pure profit.

 

[Disney Irish]

500m is essentially the BEP, unless reporting was wrong, but we have to work with what we know. So all he VOD purchases, rentalals, merch sales, and streaming advertising revenue will be pure profit.

Yep, completely agree.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

500m is essentially the BEP, unless reporting was wrong, but we have to work with what we know. So all he VOD purchases, rentalals, merch sales, and streaming advertising revenue will be pure profit.

It sure is.

People who say it’s not are wrong and fools.

 

[Tha Realest]

It sure is.

People who say it’s not are wrong and fools.

You also said the same about anyone who doubted it would hit a billion. Your cred’s blown here on such topics skippy.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Just got out of this. Really enjoyed it. A fun summer flick. Great design and art direction, touching story at times, funny, and sweet. The soundtrack is just wonderful. Iconic music.

 

[Stripes]

I saw the film about a week ago. Loved it!

The design of the world is gorgeous! The story is great! The score is grand! But, most of all, the characters and the chemistry between the actors is magnificent!

I enjoyed the film even more than Thunderbolts! I’m so excited to see these characters together with the rest of the Doomsday characters!

 

[Phroobar]

The movie story was simplic. The design has a lot of eye candy but does make you wonder why half the settings are retro future while the rest is 1940s. Some people like the F4 live in the future while others live in no technology. In that world you can easily see between the haves and have nots. That world didn't get destroyed and the F4 didn't come to the Thunderbolts world like shown. Someone wasn't communicating.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Heh, that's an interesting point about the world. It honestly was kind of a weird mish mash of 1940s new york city slums and stylized future tech/decor.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Heh, that's an interesting point about the world. It honestly was kind of a weird mish mash of 1940s new york city slums and stylized future tech/decor.

Um... thoses area which, admittedly, didn't look 'rich,' were certainly not 'slums.'

 

[Disney Irish]

The movie story was simplic. The design has a lot of eye candy but does make you wonder why half the settings are retro future while the rest is 1940s. Some people like the F4 live in the future while others live in no technology. In that world you can easily see between the haves and have nots. That world didn't get destroyed and the F4 didn't come to the Thunderbolts world like shown. Someone wasn't communicating.

The assumption that the F4 ship in the end credit scene from Thunderbolts was directly related to the events of this movie was just that, an assumption. Feige even said it might not be the same F4 ship, people just didn't believe him and thought he was doing a misdirect.

So no it wasn't that someone wasn't communicating, it was intentional. Also its very possible this is all explained in Doomsday. Because its clear that with the end credit scene of this movie events will line up, just not in the way people assumed initially.

So my thought is that

Spoiler: Potential Doomsday spoiler

Doom takes Franklin and the team has to jump universes from the 828 to the 616 to come after him,

which is why we saw the F4 ship at the end of Thunderbolts.

 

[Phroobar]

Um... thoses area which, admittedly, didn't look 'rich,' were certainly not 'slums.'

It was a strange mix to represent haves and have nots. Where does Reed Richards get his money? Grants? Is he like Bruce Wayne and builds his own gadgets?