Refurbishment coming to Disney's Grand Floridian Resort lobby

MisterPenguin

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Looks like the work is starting to pick up now, I'd guess this opens with the refreshed lobby by the Holidays?
I'm hoping so for our stay in December. Although if they do have everything in the lobby ready to go by the Holidays I feel like they sort of jumped the gun on announcing there wouldn't be a gingerbread house this year.
 

bunns

New Member
I think this will be great which I know differs to many. I think the footprint is good also. Hope they keep the momentum going. Question is, is afternoon tea coming back? Seems a no brainer in terms of easy money and very fitting
 

Tuvalu

Premium Member
I'm hoping so for our stay in December. Although if they do have everything in the lobby ready to go by the Holidays I feel like they sort of jumped the gun on announcing there wouldn't be a gingerbread house this year.
Having been in the lobby this week I can confirm there is absolutely no room for a gingerbread house in that space anymore. I even question if there will be room for the towering Christmas tree.
 

James Alucobond

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Having been in the lobby this week I can confirm there is absolutely no room for a gingerbread house in that space anymore. I even question if there will be room for the towering Christmas tree.
The gingerbread house is not coming back. There is no where to put it with that monstrosity of an eye-sore now in the lobby.
Again, the footprint of the bar is exactly the same as the birdcage dais. This does not mean that it won't feel larger because of the greater total volume it occupies, but there is essentially zero change to the amount of floor space available for both the Christmas tree and the gingerbread house.
 
Having been in the lobby this week I can confirm there is absolutely no room for a gingerbread house in that space anymore. I even question if there will be room for the towering Christmas tree.
This has been my biggest fear all along (with the announcement of the bar) that there won't be enough room in an already crowded lobby during the holidays.
 
Again, the footprint of the bar is exactly the same as the birdcage dais. This does not mean that it won't feel larger because of the greater total volume it occupies, but there is essentially zero change to the amount of floor space available for both the Christmas tree and the gingerbread house.
Yeah from what I can tell from the photos it's a smaller footprint than I was expecting; this is good to know!
 

Tuvalu

Premium Member
Again, the footprint of the bar is exactly the same as the birdcage dais. This does not mean that it won't feel larger because of the greater total volume it occupies, but there is essentially zero change to the amount of floor space available for both the Christmas tree and the gingerbread house.
The birdcage dais did not have barstools or people 2-3 deep surrounding it on regular basis. And if there is “floor space” for the gingerbread house proper, there is not enough for the roped queue area for the huge volume of guests waiting to purchase items from the gingerbread house.

But what do I know? I’ve only been a resort guest at the GF for the past 25 years and have watched that formerly uncrowded lobby (even during the early years of the gingerbread house) become overrun with huge numbers of people during the holiday seasons of Christmas and Easter.
 

Biff215

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Did they say the gingerbread house will never return? I just assumed it was just this year due to the construction. Even if the bar is open in November, there wouldn’t be enough time to also construct the gingerbread house. Just hard to imagine they’d abandon this moneymaker unless they truly have to.

And for what it’s worth I’m no fan of the bar in the lobby. It’s not like the GF didn’t have a lounge or multiple other venues serving alcohol. This one feels forced.
 

James Alucobond

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The birdcage dais did not have barstools or people 2-3 deep surrounding it on regular basis. And if there is “floor space” for the gingerbread house proper, there is not enough for the roped queue area for the huge volume of guests waiting to purchase items from the gingerbread house.
We really have no idea how popular the bar will be, but I made that exact concession a couple of pages ago. Its popularity and how much additional traffic it generates will be the deciding factors in whether or not the current holiday setup can persist. I only brought up floor space because it seemed that would be all you could reasonably be commenting on. I took your statement to mean that seeing it in person had convinced you nothing else would fit, but your contention now seems to be that it would be a problem no matter the size because of the additional bar traffic, which you could have automatically concluded on announcement. As far as the floorplan goes, the bar stools on the sides are irrelevant because there used to be long planters attached to the dais that blocked traffic flow anyway, with the dais often flanked by large tables or other furniture. Only the stools at the front of the bar will occupy some amount of physical space that was previously free.
But what do I know? I’ve only been a resort guest at the GF for the past 25 years and have watched that formerly uncrowded lobby (even during the early years of the gingerbread house) become overrun with huge numbers of people during the holiday seasons of Christmas and Easter.
Yes, many of us have been staying there for a long time and have seen the change.
 
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MouseEarsMom33

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The GF gets really busy during the holidays. With the tower at the Poly, the monorail could become a real problem during the the Christmas season. I see them moving the Gingerbread house somewhere else on property.
 

James Alucobond

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The GF gets really busy during the holidays. With the tower at the Poly, the monorail could become a real problem during the the Christmas season. I see them moving the Gingerbread house somewhere else on property.
I think what's genuinely at risk of leaving is the ability to purchase goods from the gingerbread house. There will likely continue to be a gingerbread display of some sort regardless of whether or not they feel traffic flow allows for the current queue situation to persist.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Maybe, as a culture, we can wean ourselves off of the idea the giant gingerbread house, which aren't gingerbread houses.

They're a wooden frame, that is, a wooden house onto which gingerbread slabs are glued.

IOW, they're fake.

In the place of giant slabs of gingerbread glues to a wooden house, perhaps the chefs could make actual breadbox-sized gingerbread houses that stand on their own as just gingerbread and no other supports as shortcuts.

Put a dozen of them decorated in different ways around the lobby.

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