MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

GenChi

GenChi

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Casper Gutman said:
I genuinely wonder if there are any creatives involved with this project who think it’s a good idea. It just seems utterly doomed to be remembered pretty universally as an indefensible mistake, something akin to the replacement of Imagination.
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This is far worse then Imagination or any WDW/DL removals that have ever occurred. It's beyond one singular attraction.

With those it's just you either lost a single great ride and/or got a terrible ride. Here you're also losing a central thematic element for a number of lands at your central park that helped elevate its thematic quality and permanently changing the fabric of the park to the new LL park 'vision' execs have.

Even more, they differentiate in the ability for reversal. Imagination could be made a great ride again. Muppetvision can be relocated. All the duds can one day be replaced with solid attractions. The river can never come back. They would never spend to put another river in and not use the land for a high profile attraction if Cars bombed and needs replacing. You can't fix the central thematic issue that will happen with its removal ever. This is it.

Even with Rocket Rods, PM could get revived at DL if a full TL revamp happens. And even as the closest scenario to this having to look at deteriorating PM track affects far less then this river being taken out.

Do feel for those who had to be assigned this. No matter the result the old MK is gone after today.
 
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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MisterPenguin said:
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Does Disney care about displaced wildlife? Or will Disney have no more egrets?
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I was thinking about this. The rivers and island have existed for 54 years and there's likely an entire ecosystem that's developed. There's gators and snakes in the water, all sorts of birds around the island, squirrels and bugs and tons of critters. You don't see anything other than ducks anywhere else in the park, all the wildlife is centralized in Frontierland. When they tear it all down, so many animals are going to be displaced. Where will they go? Will Disney make any effort to avoid killing any animals, or will they just cut down trees and if any animals get killed then "oh well"? Will the new build have any sort of natural landscape for animals to make home in, or any effort put in to prevent them from getting run over by the cars?

There's a million reasons to not get rid of the island but this is definitely a good one. It's going to be so weird not seeing all the birds around Liberty Square and Frontierland, and I only hope there's no negative impact on the animal populations.
 
aladdin2007

aladdin2007

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost said:
I was thinking about this. The rivers and island have existed for 54 years and there's likely an entire ecosystem that's developed. There's gators and snakes in the water, all sorts of birds around the island, squirrels and bugs and tons of critters. You don't see anything other than ducks anywhere else in the park, all the wildlife is centralized in Frontierland. When they tear it all down, so many animals are going to be displaced. Where will they go? Will Disney make any effort to avoid killing any animals, or will they just cut down trees and if any animals get killed then "oh well"? Will the new build have any sort of natural landscape for animals to make home in, or any effort put in to prevent them from getting run over by the cars?

There's a million reasons to not get rid of the island but this is definitely a good one. It's going to be so weird not seeing all the birds around Liberty Square and Frontierland, and I only hope there's no negative impact on the animal populations.
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I feel the same way and concern, alligators though they do all they can to keep them out so not really there, usually,,,,but everything else yes Id like to know what they are going to do here. Will it just be bulldozing and destroy and "oh well" all the living species there go with it? ....I hope there is some relocate plan in place for some of this rotten project. And say goodbye to all the original tall trees and cypress. Congrats Disney on your inept management (Vahle, D'Amaro, and all the rest) destroying the park for good.
 
FettFan

FettFan

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JohnD said:
Weren't we doing this a month ago with Muppets? It makes me think, what's closing next month?
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Probably the horse-drawn trolleys on Main Street.
- Horses are expensive to house and feed
- Maintenance of the trolley cars
- Removing and paving over the track will make the road less hazardous to wheelchairs and strollers.
- “nobody even rides that anyway”
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost said:
There's a million reasons to not get rid of the island but this is definitely a good one. It's going to be so weird not seeing all the birds around Liberty Square and Frontierland, and I only hope there's no negative impact on the animal populations.
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In case you haven't noticed... there is still a giant swamp and forrest around the whole place.
 
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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aladdin2007 said:
I feel the same way and concern, alligators though they do all they can to keep them out so not really there, usually,,,,but everything else yes Id like to know what they are going to do here. Will it just be bulldozing and destroy and "oh well" all the living species there go with it? ....I hope there is some relocate plan in place for some of this rotten project. And say goodbye to all the original tall trees and cypress. Congrats Disney on your inept management (Vahle, D'Amaro, and all the rest) destroying the park for good.
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Losing the trees sucks too, those trees are all 50ish years old, getting fully mature trees like that is difficult afaik, so I'm hoping they save some of them for Cars.
 
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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flynnibus said:
In case you haven't noticed... there is still a giant swamp and forrest around the whole place.
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I mean I guess? Displacing animals is still something that can affect ecosystems. Remove a huge habitat for animals that has existed for decades, and those populations are going to have to go somewhere.

If you took 50 fish from one pond and put them into another nearby pond that already has 100 fish, it's going to upset the balance for a bit until it's corrected.
 
Smiley/OCD

Smiley/OCD

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Gusey said:
I feel like it won't be anarchy as Liberty Belle still has the capacity turnstiles and a waiting area, rather than an actual queue area. If anything, it'll be getting people off TSI that will cause the issues as people will probably be trying to be the last person on the island
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How many guests are going to try to stowaway on TSI tonight??
Inquiring minds want to know…
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost said:
I mean I guess? Displacing animals is still something that can affect ecosystems. Remove a huge habitat for animals that has existed for decades, and those populations are going to have to go somewhere.
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You mean like when they built the place?

Or like everyone crying to expand instead of replacing the ROA?

Or how about when they built that road right around the place they are building now?

What is the common theme here? That everything disrupts the habitat and they have means in play to manage it... before, and now. The RoA is not a natural habitat.
 
aladdin2007

aladdin2007

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flynnibus said:
You mean like when they built the place?

Or like everyone crying to expand instead of replacing the ROA?

Or how about when they built that road right around the place they are building now?

What is the common theme here? That everything disrupts the habitat and they have means in play to manage it... before, and now. The RoA is not a natural habitat.
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True it wasn't, but after 50 some years became one in a sense.
 

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