Elio (Pixar - June 2025)

Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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DKampy said:
with the success of L&S and HtTyD and the underperformance Elio….get ready for the pause on live action remakes to be short live… especially if Moana hits… which I expect it might… people say they want original movies…But when studios give them to you people don’t watch
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I thought it was just an excuse to axe live-action Tangled specifically, and never believed them when they said that

They will absolutely do Frozen, probably Encanto and maybe Coco too, despite Pixar's protests.

Hercules is still stuck in development, but maybe they eventually make it.
 
Sir_Cliff

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DKampy said:
with the success of L&S and HtTyD and the underperformance Elio….get ready for the pause on live action remakes to be short live… especially if Moana hits… which I expect it might… people say they want original movies…But when studios give them to you people don’t watch
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Yes, people talk about current Disney lacking creativity with such a sequel and remake-heavy film slate, but audiences are pretty clear that's what they want. The best they seem to be able to hope for with new films is that they can crawl close to a profit upon initial release and then it will grow in popularity over time. Sequels and remakes mostly don't even need to be well received to bring in a huge amount of cash immediately.
 
Baloo124

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So from what I'm gathering, despite Elio not being a stink bomb, it is suffering the same fate as other animated sci-fi Disney has dealt-out in the past (Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Strange Planet...)

Other studios outside of Disney have also felt the negative results when mixing family animation with sci-fi (Titan A.E., Robots, and one of my all-time favorites which deserved SO much better than what $ it received... The Iron Giant)
 
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EagleScout610 said:
Theater employee here - Elio has been doing OK with us, nothing massive like IO2 or even Moana 2, but its not dead. I expect that'll change once Superman, Jurassic, and Fantastic absolutely bury it over the next few weeks.
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It doesn't help that Disney has to move on to promoting Fantastic Four: First Steps since that has a lot more riding on its success as the last MCU movie until Avengers: Doomsday next Christmas. And word-of-mouth will probably not help Elio's prospects the way it did for Elemental because there's Just Too Much going on in the world right now for "This Pixar movie is fine!" to penetrate.

For further bad news, the international take for Elio is straight-up catastrophic; even though it's opened in Australia, South Korea, Turkey, and most of Europe, current estimates are at just $14 million. The big foreign markets left are China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Japan, which will get it over the next month-and-a-half.

variety.com

Box Office: ‘28 Years Later’ Scares Up $30 Million Start, ‘Elio’ Lands Worst Debut in Pixar History With $21 Million

Universal's "How to Train Your Dragon" remake remained No. 1 in North America despite two newcomers, Pixar's "Elio" and Sony's "28 Years Later."
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A poster on Bluesky chalked up some of this failure to a poor choice of title, but I can't for the life of me think up one that would have been more appealing to audiences...
 
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Miss Rori said:
It doesn't help that Disney has to move on to promoting Fantastic Four: First Steps since that has a lot more riding on its success as the last MCU movie until Avengers: Doomsday next Christmas. And word-of-mouth will probably not help Elio's prospects the way it did for Elemental because there's Just Too Much going on in the world right now for "This Pixar movie is fine!" to penetrate.

For further bad news, the international take for Elio is straight-up catastrophic; even though it's opened in Australia, South Korea, Turkey, and most of Europe, current estimates are at just $14 million. The big foreign markets left are China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Japan, which will get it over the next month-and-a-half.

variety.com

Box Office: ‘28 Years Later’ Scares Up $30 Million Start, ‘Elio’ Lands Worst Debut in Pixar History With $21 Million

Universal's "How to Train Your Dragon" remake remained No. 1 in North America despite two newcomers, Pixar's "Elio" and Sony's "28 Years Later."
variety.com variety.com

A poster on Bluesky chalked up some of this failure to a poor choice of title, but I can't for the life of me think up one that would have been more appealing to audiences...
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Hello Elio? Earth Ambassador?
Elio's Orbit?
 
Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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Miss Rori said:
For further bad news, the international take for Elio is straight-up catastrophic; even though it's opened in Australia, South Korea, Turkey, and most of Europe, current estimates are at just $14 million. The big foreign markets left are China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Japan, which will get it over the next month-and-a-half.

variety.com

Box Office: ‘28 Years Later’ Scares Up $30 Million Start, ‘Elio’ Lands Worst Debut in Pixar History With $21 Million

Universal's "How to Train Your Dragon" remake remained No. 1 in North America despite two newcomers, Pixar's "Elio" and Sony's "28 Years Later."
variety.com variety.com
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I live in The Netherlands and was surprised to see it was releasing the same weekend as the US as I haven't seen so much as a poster for it here. I'm sure it has had some TV advertising on shows I don't watch, but I don't think I would know the film existed if it wasn't for my interest in Disney.

Miss Rori said:
A poster on Bluesky chalked up some of this failure to a poor choice of title, but I can't for the life of me think up one that would have been more appealing to audiences...
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Yeah, I'm not sure about this either. On Deadline they noted it sounded like a film about Luca's cousin, but I'm also not sure the name is a big factor here. Who knows, maybe the one-word name as a title is also why Pocahontas didn't reach the box office heights of The Lion King!
 
Disstevefan1

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Disney says the production budget was 150M.

The experts on these boards say to use the 2.5 multiplier.

Therefore Elio only needs to make 375M to break even.

Disney is powerful enough to keep this movie in many theaters for a long time.

This movie will easily make more than 375M before it exits the theaters.

NOTE: No one ever knows the real numbers to make and market the movies.
 
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Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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Disney's did a lot of damage to the Pixar brand by releasing so many originals specifically to Disney+

I think some people just assume Pixar original = Disney+ release now

And broadly speaking it's not been great for Pixar this decade. Lightyear flopped. Elemental, while having genuine word of mouth success, still made much less than Pixar hits of the past. And now Elio disappoints too. I don't have much confidence that Hoppers will succeed either.

Inside Out 2 being the biggest animated movie ever was a total fluke. Something nobody predicted. The perfect combination of name recognition, releasing so many years after the original to develop cross generational interest, and the "Inside Out" name still being held in high regard and not suffering from overexposure.
 
Hawkeye_2018

Hawkeye_2018

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Disstevefan1 said:
Disney says the production budget was 150M.

The experts on these boards say to use the 2.5 multiplier.

Therefore Elio only needs to make 375M to break even.

Disney is powerful enough to keep this movie in many theaters for a long time.

This movie will easily make more than 375M before it exits the theaters.

NOTE: No one ever knows the real numbers to make and market the movies.
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It could easily earn half a billion 🤣
 
lightningtap347

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I think streaming has largely devalued their (and others) brand. The fact that I can just wait and see the movie for free with my cable plan has largely stopped me from watching films in theaters. That, and the fact that when I do go there's a 50% chance that some troglodyte is going to ruin the entire experience with no recourse from the cinema. It's just largely not worth it.
 
Hawkeye_2018

Hawkeye_2018

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lightningtap347 said:
I think streaming has largely devalued their (and others) brand. The fact that I can just wait and see the movie for free with my cable plan has largely stopped me from watching films in theaters. That, and the fact that when I do go there's a 50% chance that some troglodyte is going to ruin the entire experience with no recourse from the cinema. It's just largely not worth it.
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It’s not free. We are still paying money to watch these movies just not for the theater version
 

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