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News Coco Boat Ride Coming to Disney California Adventure
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Disney Irish
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Never claimed that, but in all fairness and you know this, it was rethemed from a ride built in 1988 and then cloned for cheapness later on for another park.
But there is a reason why many rides today, a complained you've made over and over, aren't built with a lot of "stakes" in them. And if you think its because no one in WDI has kids, well then you probably don't pay much attention to who heads up WDI.
And the two versions in Hong Kong and Tokyo. Only adults in line I’m assuming?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Yes of course, but if I was to bet, I'd say we get Arendelle at DL in one of the DLForward plot.Well we just don’t know. We’re going to have to wait in see
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Dude, you know what I mean so stop. There are kids in line, just like there are kids that avoid it, and parents that won't let their kids ride because of coddling their kids and so on and so on.
You don’t know what you’re talking about here. Just take the checkmate gracefully and move on. Haha
Disney Irish
Premium Member
What checkmate? You made a claim about the designers in WDI not having kids or never being around kids so don't know how to design rides, I countered that claim with a potential explanation, and all you came back with that is "so there are no kids in line?". That isn't a checkmate, that is you trying to use a strawman to avoid the point I made about the likely reason why WDI designs rides a certain way now.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Stop what? You still haven't addressed my point, and I think its because you know I'm right. Society is different today than when we were kids. So why would WDI design rides for kids from a different era if kids today are different. I mean I've seen studies on how kids today are more anxious overall than even just a generation ago. So just because you think kids can "handle" something doesn't mean that is a blanket sentiment agreed upon by many others. For good or bad WDI ends up designing for the lowest common dominator. You may not agree with it, but they are ones design it for the masses and not exclusively for you or me.Stop. Just
And I’m saying they have been missing the mark IMO on most rides “aimed at kids” in the last decade or so and that we have proof that they are greatly underestimating what most kids can tolerate. We have proof of this because the Frozen ride is a smash hit and doesn’t stop the vast majority of kids from riding. What it does do is make the experience more well rounded and more appealing to all ages. What are you having a hard time understanding? You just like when I exercise my fingers right? Must I spell everything out?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I don't have a hard time understanding your point, I understood it the first time and the 2 other times you tried to get me in a "gotcha" argument. Its not rocket science. Also your "proof" isn't really proof, that is anecdotal at best. As you don't know how many kids avoided them, or had parents that didn't let them go because of it.
And I'll let you in on a little secret, I don't necessarily disagree with you in regards to making the ride profiles more well rounded. That however doesn't change the fact that things are designed for a specific reason. Reasons that you may not agree with and think aren't valid, but reasons nonetheless. So they miss the mark for YOU, but that doesn't mean they miss the mark for the rest of the masses that they build for. Again they aren't built exclusively for you or me, but for the masses overall.
Because if I was building an attraction today, I'd probably build a modern ATIS and attractions like that. But would that appeal to the masses? Probably not, which is why it never had a line and was closed in the first place.
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I don’t have any more time for this non sense at the moment. You basically say the same thing in every one of your posts. Why don’t you just put it all down in your signature and give your hands a break?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
You had time to write that post.
Instead of just responding to disagree with me, why not actually read what I said.
Do I think WDI should build more rides that have more "scare" and "thrill" to them, YES. Do I think that the masses today are more "soft" and coddled so can't handle them, also YES. And this is why I think that WDI builds the way they do.
So in the end you and I actually AGREE!!!! Amazing I know!!!!! But I'm giving you reasoning on why I think that WDI doesn't do things the way we think they should.
Maybe the next time that WDI is at an event you should attend and ask them directly why they don't build attractions with "scares" and "thrills" anymore. And maybe they'll give an answer that makes sense.
You had time to write that post.
Instead of just responding to disagree with me, why not actually read what I said.
Do I think WDI should build more rides that have more "scare" and "thrill" to them, YES. Do I think that the masses today are more "soft" and coddled so can't handle them, also YES. And this is why I think that WDI builds the way they do.
So in the end you and I actually AGREE!!!! Amazing I know!!!!! But I'm giving you reasoning on why I think that WDI doesn't do things the way we think they should.
Maybe the next time the WDI is at an event you should attend and ask them directly why they don't build attractions with "scares" and "thrills" anymore. And maybe they'll give an answer that makes sense.
Ok I’m glad we agree.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I know its amazing when it happens.
Also as I've said before, I don't necessarily personally need "scares" and "thrill" in my rides. But that doesn't mean I don't want no rides with those elements at the Disney Parks. Its just not something I need especially as I get older. You obviously still look for and crave that experience. Heck look at your avatar, you've had the same drop gif for like 4-5 years now, so obviously its an important part of the experience for you. All I've been trying to get across to you is that not everyone is like you, and that WDI thinks about that when designing as any good designer should, what would appeal to all not just a sub-section, sometimes its works and sometimes it doesn't.
Haha. I mean if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Also I don’t even remember how I did that.
Ok that’s fine and I’m saying Disney is off there and they’d please more people in general (including kids) than the amount of kids that would be too scared of those things. I understand why they re doing it. I’m saying it’s flawed.
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Disney Irish
Premium Member
I think a UI change a few years ago made it not possible to upload a gif for an avatar pic. I know that several posters have tried, and I have too, but it doesn't work anymore. I never really tried to truly debug it, maybe one day I will and will send a note to Steve, but since I don't really care that much I haven't been bothered.
So consider yourself lucky that you still have one.
Well obviously opinions on this will vary, and I'm fine with that.
Well now I feel extra special and will NEVER change my profile pic.
The fact that it’s taking so long could indicate they have plans to go bigger and not just shoehorn it into Fantasyland.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Which is why I think its more likely to be something like Arendelle at TDS in a DLForward plot. I mean your favorite Tuber Brickey even did a whole video on it.