DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[JackCH]

Order of likelihood of possibilities:
1. There is no show at all (1%)
2. There is a show and it is better than Muppets (2%)
3. There is a show and it is roughly on par with Muppets (5%)
4. There is a show and it is terrible (10%)
5. There is a show and it is just “aight” (82%)

 

[DarkMetroid567]

My anecdotal evidence of Muppetvision opinions
- My family did not like DCA Muppetvision
- No one in my CP friend group ever wanted to do Muppetvision with me
- I took a friend who had never done Muppetvision during my Epic visit three weeks ago and she reacted “well, that was… something”

I love Muppetvision. I’d prefer it never left. But is our echochamber thicker than we think? If it was truly a strong performer, would Disney have gotten rid of it?

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

All we can really say is Disney, for better or worse, has at least a solid amount of trust in both franchises.

Is that why they are closing the only monsters attraction in California with no replacement planned?

 

[DarkMetroid567]

Is that why they are closing the only monsters attraction in California with no replacement planned?

I think this would resonate more if (1) Disney didn’t really want Avatar in, and they clearly do, and (2) the bones of the existing ride weren’t Superstar Limo

 

[Professortango1]

So you don't count:.
- Waldorf & Staler Animatronics
- Chef animatronic
- cannon effects/breaking parts of the theater
- smoke effects
- bubbles
- physical arrows getting stuck to the balcony Bean is in?

Obviously you can prefer ITTBAB but think you are discounting the physical elements in MV3D

I do count them, but....

Flik AA = Statler and Waldorf
Hopper AA > Chef AA behind audience
Spiders and seat effects > Cannot effects/breaking parts of the theater
Bug Bomb > smoke effects
Bubbles...I just walk around anywhere and get plenty of bubbles in my face
Practical explosions from Termite > Physical Arrows.

The math works, TTBAB was a more immersive show. Plus, its main characters were nowhere as annoying at Bean and Waldo, the two biggest characters in MV3D. I also would get bored at the Miss Piggy sequence, whereas TTBAB never left me bored.

Sweetums is fantastic and I certainly appreciate MV3D for when it came out. Like I said, I loved it far more than Philharmagic and Captain Eo, but the writing/concept did feel like it had one foot in the past when it comes to making a theme park 3D experience. I give the experience a solid 7/10. I just give TTBAB a 9/10 and HISTA a 7.5/10.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Is that why they are closing the only monsters attraction in California with no replacement planned?

Monsters is a very solid second tier Disney IP, the first tier being things like Mickey and the gang, Toy Story, Frozen, and Star Wars. It’s certainly a higher tier than Muppets. It deserves a ride, even a land, and it has an excellent one in Tokyo. Trying to cram Iger’s beloved (wildly financially successful) franchise into DCA doesn’t counter this.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I think this would resonate more if (1) Disney didn’t really want Avatar in, and they clearly do, and (2) the bones of the existing ride weren’t Superstar Limo

For real. Monsters Inc at DCA was always a temporary fix for a bad ride. A redressing.

Tokyo’s version was the real deal, and would be worth keeping if we had it.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

View attachment 863885View attachment 863886MEET MONSTROPOLIS

Meet and greet? Seriously?

 

[Nickm2022]

Meet and greet? Seriously?

I really doubt it. There will definitely be a show. Plus the only words I could make it says "MEET MONSTROPOLIS" and I would assume because this is a show by the monsters for the monsters. Plus you can see areas for meet and greets in the art however I have a feeling they'll be out the StarWars Galaxys edge way of being out and about

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

Is that why they are closing the only monsters attraction in California with no replacement planned?

I believe that speaks less to their faith in the brand and more to their desires for that park specifically. As much as I love the franchise, I can’t pretend that a land on par with Pandora at DAK wouldn’t benefit DCA more than a slapdash reskin of the worst Disney attraction of all time.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

Monsters Inc might not be a juggernaut Disney IP like Frozen or Star Wars, but it is really silly to argue that it's not relevant to Gen Z. As mentioned earlier in this thread, those golden era Pixar films are to us what the Disney Renaissance films are to millennials. As much as I love the Muppets, it is a very neglected franchise that was largely kept alive through MuppetVision 3D for many years. You can argue all day about which will be the better product for the park, but one is certainly more marketable (to a younger demographic at the minimum)

 

[Disnutz311]

Hot Takes...

1. Fountain in new concept art is the existing fountain repurposed to save money
2. New covered area is a shady place for people to wait with their numerous kids while others ride, cause the height requirements are too high for demographic
3. Disney not showing the huge gravity building with painted facades (The clear box shown in the model)
4. Large area shown to the right of the factory in new art is the exit, cause they forgot to put one in
5. New Monsters show will be meet the citizens of Monstropolis using the old screens from the Villians show when it closes

 

[eddie104]

Fountain in new concept art is the existing fountain repurposed to save money

That would go against the narrative that Disney hates water features.

How does maintaining something that already exists save money ?

 

[Jedi14]

I love Muppetvision. I’d prefer it never left. But is our echochamber thicker than we think?

Yes.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Monsters Inc might not be a juggernaut Disney IP like Frozen or Star Wars, but it is really silly to argue that it's not relevant to Gen Z. As mentioned earlier in this thread, those golden era Pixar films are to us what the Disney Renaissance films are to millennials. As much as I love the Muppets, it is a very neglected franchise that was largely kept alive through MuppetVision 3D for many years. You can argue all day about which will be the better product for the park, but one is certainly more marketable (to a younger demographic at the minimum)

Indeed.

Disney knows how much the Monsters Inc franchise sells merch, how many people go to M.Inc attractions, and how often the two movies and the D+ TV series are being watched.

Does anyone really think Disney didn't do its due diligence to bet that this would be a popular ILL attraction?

If their metrics and polls showed a lack of interest in M.Inc, it wouldn't be getting a new ride and land.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

Indeed.

Disney knows how much the Monsters Inc franchise sells merch, how many people go to M.Inc attractions, and how often the two movies and the D+ TV series are being watched.

Does anyone really think Disney didn't do its due diligence to bet that this would be a popular ILL attraction?

If their metrics and polls showed a lack of interest in M.Inc, it wouldn't be getting a new ride and land.

That’s exactly what I’ve been trying to say. Why on earth would they be spending all this money if they didn’t have solid evidence to suggest their chosen IP would be a draw?

For as money hungry as we all know them to be, some of you seem to think they’re picking these IPs completely at random rather than following what they have proven would be successful.

 

[HMF]

They want a new show. Just like they did for HISTA and ITTBAB.

I don't think it was a deliberate plan that HISTA would eventually be replaced by a rotating series of shorts that I can watch at home for free for less than a fraction of the cost of a ticket to EPCOT.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I return again to the fact the, despite the fact that the box office fiasco of 2023 sent Disney scrambling back to churning out safe sequels to IPs like Toy Story and Frozen, no Monsters 3 is currently planned.

I’d also point out that despite the last Indiana Jones film being a historic bomb, that IP is receiving a new ride.

Monsters is popular. It is not a cultural juggernaut.

Anecdotally, I see more Up merchandise on people and in shelves in the parks then I do Monsters, though I find it likely Monsters is more marketable.

 

[HMF]

So do people want Disney to use older IPs or do they want to stay to recent stuff? But whenever they do use recent stuff they gripe and groan it's too much recent stuff.

Well, they could do something original for a change. Oh right, The boss says they can't.

 

[HMF]

My hope is they do turn either M.I.L.F or Sunset Showcase into a new Muppetvision 3D

How does MV3D fit in Tomorrowland any better than MILF did?