MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

lazyboy97o

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Excluding Frontierland on the shuttle route? Excluding the back part of the loop makes sense, but is the Frontierland station thing just construction safety/sight lines or other things that exclude it? I remember some operational issues with the crossing. It could be both I guess.
The bridge would likely be rotated to allow equipment access. That’s a serious dead end close to the station.
 

TheMaxRebo

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Excluding Frontierland on the shuttle route? Excluding the back part of the loop makes sense, but is the Frontierland station thing just construction safety/sight lines or other things that exclude it? I remember some operational issues with the crossing. It could be both I guess.

I am wondering about that too. Could it be that they can't do whatever needs to be done to do the actual reversal for shuttling back at the Frontierland Station so can't go past the Main St one? Not sure what is involved in getting it set thing backwards
 

WondersOfLife

Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
We are MUCH better off with the new and younger Imagineers, the ones that actually understand today's "modern audience", which is soooo important to every company today.
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As someone who wasn't born until 1998......... So basically a "younger generation" 2000s baby... I wish I could have experienced the peak of Disney Imagineering in the 80s. (Looking at you, Epcot)
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Not sure what is involved in getting it set thing backwards
Mechanically the engineer moves one bar from forward to reverse. (Or from neutral to reverse….. ideally they set it in neutral at station stops).

Operationally a conductor rides the back of the platform to direct the shove move. I’m not sure who usually does this for reverse moves back to the roundhouse.
 

Cliff

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100% one of my biggest fears with this approach is broken water features, which ruins the illusion
I think it's imperative that whatever Disney builds for this land/attraction, every single element MUST have a very low daily maintenance cost. They need to keep water pump usage to a bare minimum. Anything that moves needs to be extremely simple with limited motion. Anything mechanical must have a very low-cost fixability. Keep the paint very flat because vibrant colors will fade fast in the Florida sun and require re-painting too often. Keep live entertainment costs low by only having a solo acoustic guitar singer who walks around. Plastic plants should be used as much as possible to lower groundskeeping. etc...etc......etc. You guys know the drill.

We know that modern Burbank is extremely budget-conscious of daily operational costs today. They do NOT like spending valuable park profits unless it's critically necessary. We know this revenue money is intended to subsidize the hurting studios, Disney plus, the Hulu purchase and the billions they still have not paid Comcast yet. (There are several other hurting Disney divisions that Burbank needs that valuable parks profits to subsidize as well)

Burbank/Glendale's Blue Sky paintings ALWAYS look better and more extravagant than the finished product does. The historic examples of this are endless. So, if history is correct, we should get a nicely trimmed-down land with deep budget cuts 2/3rds of the way before it finishes.

My guess is 5-6 years to complete. This allows Burbank to stretch out the financial cost across 20+ quarters of financial reports to investors. Burbank HATES absorbing high construction cost losses in a short time span. Makes the P&L books look very bad. We will peek behind the walls MANY days and not see one single construction worker in there.

Let's all stay VERY patient and VERY realistic about this entire project. If we can manage to keep expectations low, we will all be happy when opening day hits us in 2031.
 

Stitchon

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Were you born in 98? DL tomorrowland will forever be the worst with rocket rods rotting for all to see to this day.

I don't agree with that at all. The failed replacement of one attraction doesn't equate to ripping out three integral pieces of the Magic Kingdom, all of which are part of the DNA of the "castle" park. Even Shanghai has a few large bodies of water.
 

lazyboy97o

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Not to mention, California strict building codes. I think all the past altercations made, Disney might have lost it grandfather clause with the people mover tracks.
The California Building Standards Code is based on the model International Building Code, just like the Florida Building Code and is not some radically different thing. There is also no singular “grandfather clause” but instead various requirements pertaining to different types and scopes of work regulated by different codes.
 

BrianLo

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Holy there are way too many posts to work through. I can imagine it’s nothing but excitement and appreciation.

Right?


I do think the changes look good, while some contrived and silly, they do seem to care. It looks increasingly like Grizzly Peak walkway, which was always the best case scenario.
 

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