MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
This is unfair. I never expected the project to be cancelled or significantly altered in response to fan complaints, yet I cannot deny the differences between the two pieces of concept art. One of these differences, as I noted in my earlier reply to you, includes the joining of the waterfall to the riverfront, which is not what the earlier concept art showed or even suggested. Again, how much faith should be put into the new design is another question, but I can’t understand why you keep denying that it is, in certain respects, different from what they previously publicised.
For sure, the first concept art seems to show that there might be water.
It gave me the impression of maybe we'll get it, maybe we won't?
The current art is emphasizing the water.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
If you want a home for Liberty Belle, how about expanding Main Street around the corner to take over the under-used and poorly themed SomehowIt'sTheFuture Terrace?

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monothingie

You can't not afford me !
Premium Member
Boardwalk Empire is also a popular show. Does that mean that everyone is walking around with a secret love of Prohibition era New Jersey?
You dodged the question because your initial statement was wrong.

To simply dismiss an entire genre because it does not appeal to you specifically is really quite arrogant on your part. The fact that modern day pop-culture still is referential to the frontier era certainly indicates a continued modern interest.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
It's because they have no clue what they're actually doing yet and how they will make this fit any sort of conceivable way. That's why the proportions are so out of whack. If you look at the actual size of the space they're using their simply isn't enough room for half of what is proposed, at least not in a "grand national park" kind of way.
This project is beyond concept design and even at that stage plenty of drafted plans exist for a project. This isn’t even technically concept art.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
Westerns borrow a lot of common story tropes. Just because Westerns use them doesn't mean that all stories that use them are Westerns.

But non of this matters. Frontierland in Disneyland and again in Disneyworld was about Davy Crocket and Cowboys and Indians. No one cares about that anymore. So now Frontierland is being molded into a wilderness adventure.
You didn’t answer - is Dancing With Wolves a western? What are the key themes of Avatar?

Yes, certain broad story tropes show up across cultures. In America, those tropes have been shaped, filtered, and defined by the frontier myth. This is one of the reasons samurai films translate so well to a western setting and vice versa.

If we’re tossing any genre that doesn’t resonate anymore… well, the pirate film is dead, so better dump that. Indy bombed and no one is making jungle adventure films, so let’s chuck Adventureland in the trash. Snow White just embarrassed everyone at the box office, so the Mine Train needs to go. Buck Rogers sci-fi isn’t big, so level Tomorrowland. Not a lot of folks care about classic Hollywood or Tower of Terror, so…
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
The main Frontierland pathway we know today will likely feel a bit more cramped as more guests will bother to visit, and more importantly stay, in Frontierland, rather than use it as a way to get from BTM to Haunted Mansion. But, what should help is the new pathway from BTM to Haunted Mansion around the back of the Cars attraction, so guests will have multiple options to get from A to B
It will feel cramped because, rather than being bordered by a wide expanse of water and open sky, it will be bordered by trees and rockwork. This will make it FEEL more cramped.
 

Delta-7

Active Member
I wish people would stop mentioning the age of some of our younger posters. Some of the silliest comments in the forum have been authored by those of us in the over-40 category!
Agreed. As much as replacing ROA & TSI with Cars hurts, I don’t know why some people on here feel the need to judge others based on their age. Just ‘cause you’re older doesn’t mean you’re smarter.
 

JD80

Well-Known Member
You didn’t answer - is Dancing With Wolves a western? What are the key themes of Avatar?

Yes, certain broad story tropes show up across cultures. In America, those tropes have been shaped, filtered, and defined by the frontier myth. This is one of the reasons samurai films translate so well to a western setting and vice versa.

If we’re tossing any genre that doesn’t resonate anymore… well, the pirate film is dead, so better dump that. Indy bombed and no one is making jungle adventure films, so let’s chuck Adventureland in the trash. Snow White just embarrassed everyone at the box office, so the Mine Train needs to go. Buck Rogers sci-fi isn’t big, so level Tomorrowland. Not a lot of folks care about classic Hollywood or Tower of Terror, so…

Yes, Dancing with Wolves is a western. Is Fern Gully a Western?

The rest of your post is silly and you're being purposefully obtuse.
 

monothingie

You can't not afford me !
Premium Member
Disney PR read the room when this first came out. This is, along with the detailed descriptions of how WDI is ensuring minimal disruption to the rest of the themed area is the heavy hand of marketing trying to build good will for the project.

Who knows what the final product will look like, but to say everything is going to be great based on a single press release is just silly. Eddie knows that.
 

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