SPOILERS: Star Wars' ANDOR Seasons 1 & 2

[doctornick]

Also, can someone tell me if I am misremembering or missed it: wasn't there a big deal in the first season about Andor trying to find his sister? Did anything ever come of that? I feel like that was supposed to lead somewhere but never did (so I guess it wasn't a Chekhov's gun)

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Well Gilroy seems to be a master of writing grounded realistic stories and characters so maybe being a co writer with someone that knows the fantastical would’ve worked.

Chris Weitz?

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[MisterPenguin]

Also, can someone tell me if I am misremembering or missed it: wasn't there a big deal in the first season about Andor trying to find his sister? Did anything ever come of that? I feel like that was supposed to lead somewhere but never did (so I guess it wasn't a Chekhov's gun)

As soon as Andor killed the police officers, his entire quest to find his sister was stopped. Understandable because of his fugitive status, heist, and jail time. But also a little not-understandable given that there were times he had the freedom to resume his quest. The developers of the project have admitted it was a dropped plot.

Tho they didn't say so, it may have been dropped when Andor went from several seasons to just two.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t normally take a tally of the races and genders in a program…. But maybe that’s just me

Nor should you…

Good stories strip that nonsense away

 

[Heppenheimer]

I particularly liked the development of Mon Mothma in this show. She's barely even a character in any of the movies, but they took her barebones back-story and made her into one of the best and most important characters in the Star Wars universe. Part of that comes down to Genevieve O'Reilly's excellent performance, but she was also very well written. Compare Mon Mothma in this show to the completely toxic "leadership" of Admiral Holdo... I know which woman I would rather follow.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I particularly liked the development of Mon Mothma in this show. She's barely even a character in any of the movies, but they took her barebones back-story and made her into one of the best and most important characters in the Star Wars universe. Part of that comes down to Genevieve O'Reilly's excellent performance, but she was also very well written. Compare Mon Mothma in this show to the completely toxic "leadership" of Admiral Holdo... I know which woman I would rather follow.

You don't throw a insubordinationist in the brig if he's cute!!

 

[Heppenheimer]

You don't throw a insubordinationist in the brig if he's cute!!

As a commander, you also don't keep your grand plan secret until the very last minute because the plot requires you to (the one third/ two thirds rule of command, for anyone who has been in the military), and you don't inspire confidence and loyalty by belittling subordinates who ask very reasonable questions when you refuse to provide extremely crucial life and death information and instructions.

That whole movie was just a complete mess. I like Laura Dern as an actress, but she was handed a terribly written character to work with. Andor restored my faith that talented people can still write thoughtful stories and characters within the Star Wars universe. I can completely believe that Mon Mothma would inspire rebel pilots to accept near-suicide missions against almost insurmountable odds after watching this show.

 

[Phroobar]

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I particularly liked the development of Mon Mothma in this show. She's barely even a character in any of the movies, but they took her barebones back-story and made her into one of the best and most important characters in the Star Wars universe. Part of that comes down to Genevieve O'Reilly's excellent performance, but she was also very well written. Compare Mon Mothma in this show to the completely toxic "leadership" of Admiral Holdo... I know which woman I would rather follow.

Yes. Fleshing out recognizable, but underdeveloped characters is the best part of this show.

I think they did that pretty effectively with organa too.
I like Jimmy smits…but his wooden prequel performance and unnecessary kid subplot forced into kenobi weren’t that good.
Bratt did a good job giving some character presence.


Did you mean the Jurassic park insert? Who they Made a “vague lesbian” with a little kink for Princess Leia, no purpose…but with purple hair?
And sucked the squid out of the window for that? (More to come there)

I hate to point it out…but you can’t say they weren’t going for checkboxes and then pull that kinda crap…doesn’t wash at all

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

This is gonna sound really ironic based on my track record…

But I think your expectations might be “a tad” too high

lol expecting the writer to be consistent to his own material? Nah.

But like I said, while an imperfect handoff was disappointing, I still loved Andor. And I still think Rogue One is magnificent and epic.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

As soon as Andor killed the police officers, his entire quest to find his sister was stopped. Understandable because of his fugitive status, heist, and jail time. But also a little not-understandable given that there were times he had the freedom to resume his quest. The developers of the project have admitted it was a dropped plot.

Tho they didn't say so, it may have been dropped when Andor went from several seasons to just two.

Tony Gilroy has given multiple interviews explaining it was a specific choice not to bookend the sister story as he felt her absence was what drove Cassian to try to rescue everyone else - because he never saved her.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Tony Gilroy has given multiple interviews explaining it was a specific choice not to bookend the sister story as he felt her absence was what drove Cassian to try to rescue everyone else - because he never saved her.

Makes we wish the series had a text crawl between each story arc.

Since they followed the movie format of doing concise stories separated by a year gap, a text crawl (but not a crawl) could have briefly explained what has happened during that time.

 

[Phroobar]

 

[Tha Realest]

I particularly liked the development of Mon Mothma in this show. She's barely even a character in any of the movies, but they took her barebones back-story and made her into one of the best and most important characters in the Star Wars universe. Part of that comes down to Genevieve O'Reilly's excellent performance, but she was also very well written. Compare Mon Mothma in this show to the completely toxic "leadership" of Admiral Holdo... I know which woman I would rather follow.

I generally detest Lucas-type tinkering with completed films but would be fine if they inserted O’Reilly into the ROTJ briefing scene*

*Lucas did this with McDiarmid in ESB eventually.

 

[Phroobar]

So now we know that Mon Mothma was on the moon of Yavin during the battle. Did she go with them to Hoth too?
Bail was at Yavin too but for some reason left go to Alderaan to meet up with Leia after the battle of Scariff. Wouldn't it be easier for Bail to stay at Yavin and wait for Leia there?

 

[Tha Realest]

So now we know that Mon Mothma was on the moon of Yavin during the battle. Did she go with them to Hoth too?

I dunno, but onboard for a number of miniseries just following Mothma against the backdrop of the main Skywalker Saga.

 

[Disney Irish]

So now we know that Mon Mothma was on the moon of Yavin during the battle. Did she go with them to Hoth too?
Bail was at Yavin too but for some reason left go to Alderaan to meet up with Leia after the battle of Scariff. Wouldn't it be easier for Bail to stay at Yavin and wait for Leia there?

I believe that Mon moved around during the war with the rest of the Alliance high command but was never on Hoth.

Bail went back to Alderaan to tell Leia to personally retrieve the DS plans and get Obi-Wan out of hiding. Obviously there was a plot hole that needed to be filled from Rogue One since we know he died when Alderaan was destroyed during the DS first public demonstration, which was why this plot point was added to Andor.

 

[sedati]

Shocked at how many things Gilroy says that would send the "fans" into a thermo-nuclear meltdown had they come from any of the females at Lucasfilm. But not actually surprised.

 

[Hawkeye_2018]

Shocked at how many things Gilroy says that would send the "fans" into a thermo-nuclear meltdown had they come from any of the females at Lucasfilm. But not actually surprised.

like what?

 

[TalkingHead]

Watched both seasons over the last week and was shocked how good this was. Easily the best SW content since Disney’s purchase, and probably the best SW production since the 80s. Glad this lived up to the hype!