DHS New Villains Show Coming to Disney’s Hollywood Studios in Summer 2025

FerretAfros

FerretAfros

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LittleBuford said:
The issue is with the execution, not the concept.
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On the contrary, I think the execution is about as good as it could be. The set is impressive, the costumes are elaborate, and the cast are giving it their all.

It’s the concept that’s lousy.

The characters have no reason to exist in the same universe. They have no reason to sing these songs we’ve all heard before. There’s no reason for the pep rally-style popularity contest. There’s no reason to not have better connective tissue, like a plot, background performers, or musical theme woven throughout. There is no dramatic arc, no stakes, and nothing for the audience to care about. It’s all superficial with no substance.

On the technical side, it’s a nicely assembled little production. On the conceptual side, it was doomed before it ever got off the ground.
 
StringBeanDream

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Disgruntled Walt said:
Ok, it's clear people disagree with me about whether or not my own niece or nephews would understand the show. Let's drop that and get back to discussing this show for what it is: awful.

We're encouraged to come back again because it might not turn out the same way...but aren't there only three possibilities? And everything is pre-scripted (except for maybe a few seconds of dialogue each? at least in the Capt. Hook clip I saw), so it's not like we're getting to watch these actors riff on the villains' personalities. We also have to watch the Hades vs Jafar thing every time, and listen to the Magic Mirror's voice.

There are so many reasons to close this sooner rather than later. If it lasts all the way until Villains Land opens in 2032, we're in big trouble.
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Yeah, let's celebrate and encourage people losing their jobs!
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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Cruella does a fabulous job twirling around and all, but at least in video, I’m left feeling
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Better in person, perhaps?

They need Starlight and they need it now.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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FerretAfros said:
There’s no reason to not have better connective tissue, like a plot, background performers, or musical theme woven throughout.
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That’s what I was referring to as the execution. I don’t see how you can criticise these elements while maintaining that the execution “is about as good as it could be”.
 
Disgruntled Walt

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LittleBuford said:
The show doesn’t look great, but this seems an odd thing to object to given that most Disney shows are the same every time they’re performed.
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Except that this is supposed to be a competition show...and there's only three choices. And they always say the exact same things. The only differences introduced is based on how much applause each one gets, and once you've seen all three scenarios, you've seen it all. It's not really built for re-watching.
 
LittleBuford

LittleBuford

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Disgruntled Walt said:
Except that this is supposed to be a competition show...and there's only three choices. And they always say the exact same things. The only differences introduced is based on how much applause each one gets, and once you've seen all three scenarios, you've seen it all. It's not really built for re-watching.
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You’re asked at the very end of the show to applaud for the most “misunderstood” villain. Remove that one element and it becomes just like any other show, performed identically every time. What will determine its rewatchability is how good it is (which is a separate matter from whether it’s the same each time or not).
 
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Comped

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flynnibus said:
Wow, just watched the full video...

Would have zero interest in sitting through this. I mean, if you take away the backdrop... is this any better than a castle stage show? I'd say not. Just having 3-4 different villians come out and do a segment solo and disconnected feels so empty. It's something that I think you'd want as street level entertainment... more like the jack sparrow/pirates thing they used to do in Adventure land. Not a theater show.

When you strip away the stage.. which seems massive when you just throw one performer walking around for little purpose.. I mean... even the deck party on the cruise ships is better than this.

Swing and a miss Disney... swing and a miss...
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It's got less cast, less songs, and less length, than the castle show at MK (or other castles) now. It's actually kind of amazing that this made it out of the concept stage at all, much less got final approval. Clearly budget wasn't an issue (well, on things Disney didn't need to follow their rulebook with Equity on), so it must have been length/cast size restrictions that caused this. Because there's no way anyone would plan for a show like this, with literally 3 cast involved. Too few for a stage half this size, let alone something that could easily run a much larger show. I agree that it feels like a M&G/street entertainment, but lacks the size, scope, or length, of a proper theatre show for what was a pretty big investment all things considered. Well, at least the theatre can be reused.
FerretAfros said:
On the contrary, I think the execution is about as good as it could be. The set is impressive, the costumes are elaborate, and the cast are giving it their all.

It’s the concept that’s lousy.

The characters have no reason to exist in the same universe. They have no reason to sing these songs we’ve all heard before. There’s no reason for the pep rally-style popularity contest. There’s no reason to not have better connective tissue, like a plot, background performers, or musical theme woven throughout. There is no dramatic arc, no stakes, and nothing for the audience to care about. It’s all superficial with no substance.

On the technical side, it’s a nicely assembled little production. On the conceptual side, it was doomed before it ever got off the ground.
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The concept of a villains show is good, in theory, the way they executed it was horrible. Too short for any kind of linkage or exposition to explain why and justify your concerns, too uninteresting to actually get people to do anything but trash it on the internet (most people anyway). Feels like they wanted to replace the Cars show but had no idea how, and this was the first thing that popped out of somebody's head.
 
Moth

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JD80 said:
Yall need to stop hyperventilating.
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Never! This community RUNS on overreactions to menial trivial stuff! I hear that they moved a trash can an inch at MK

On a less "hyperventilating" note, after letting it soak in. The show is fine, actually. Better than what was there before, and with the mindset it's temporary, an appetizer type deal to Villains at MK, something much bigger in scope than a 14 minute show.
 
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Ayla

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FerretAfros said:
On the contrary, I think the execution is about as good as it could be. The set is impressive, the costumes are elaborate, and the cast are giving it their all.

It’s the concept that’s lousy.

The characters have no reason to exist in the same universe. They have no reason to sing these songs we’ve all heard before. There’s no reason for the pep rally-style popularity contest. There’s no reason to not have better connective tissue, like a plot, background performers, or musical theme woven throughout. There is no dramatic arc, no stakes, and nothing for the audience to care about. It’s all superficial with no substance.

On the technical side, it’s a nicely assembled little production. On the conceptual side, it was doomed before it ever got off the ground.
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Yes. I want to clarify that none of my issues are with the cast. They are doing a great job with what they were given. The acting is not the problem for me.
 
LittleBuford

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flynnibus said:
Because Execution is 'doing what was scripted/planned/allowed within the confines of the design' - Concept is 'what the design was...'
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For me, concept is “Villains competing for the title of most ‘misunderstood’ in a camp musical show”, whereas execution is how effectively, and on what scale, that idea is pulled off. I personally like the concept a lot.
 
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JD80

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Moth said:
Never! This community RUNS on overreactions to menial stuff! I hear that they moved a trash can an inch at MK

On a less "hyperventilating" note, after letting it soak in. The show is fine, actually. Better than what was there before, and with the mindset it's temporary, an appetizer type deal to Villains at MK, something much bigger in scope than a 14 minute show.
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That's all I took this as a replacement for. It replaced a single animatronic show.

If this was what replaced the BatB production on that stage I'd be confused.
 
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gsimpson

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very uninspiring. Seems like a rush job. The set is technically interesting and well done but the show doesn't seem coherent. Cruella seems more like a drag queen than a self-absorbed diva. Better than another abandon theater.
 

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