To be fair, Elio isn't even out yet (though I do fear it'll be another flop... maybe word of mouth will help it like Elemental).
Audiences just don't seem to like original films, especially original animated sci-fi films. Despite how much we want original stories, the average person just wants more of the same they've already seen because it's a safe pick.
Sugar Rush with electric cars and tons of set pieces really really should have happened...since they clearly are not going to tie Tron into anything....
Always love posting my idea! Though looking at this now I think I'd need to add more queue space. Probably just have it wrap around the side into that "extra space" a bit.
And when they do, people trash it. Na'vi River Journey is a very good (I'd say great) C ticket, but people hate it because it isn't a D or E.
I would argue people hate it because it's scenes are very screen heavy, it feels like you're just in a hallway of screens and fake plants, and there's only one animatronic in the whole thing. If the sets felt larger and there were more physical effects, it'd be better received. I mean, they even used screens for a WATERFALL. In the Navi RIVER Journey. Was it really better to project that water running down instead of having actual water?
Cant charge $20 a pop for a dark ride or can they
You can if you make the queue super small and the capacity even smaller!
Don't forget all the shows that have been added over the years would also fall somewhere in the B/C/D ticket grouping.
Larger shows like FNTM and smaller shows like Philhar, Turtle Talk, and the redone CBMJ should be considered.
The list is a little skewed when you're saying that the parks need to add fewer major attractions and focus on smaller things, but then we don't look at things that aren't rides.
CBMJ is an E-Ticket in my heart (Disney used to consider the original CBJ a E-Ticket!), but I'd say it's probably D or C nowadays- not a long wait, decent length (compared to modern rides- you could ride Tron 12 times in a row ignoring wait times in the same time as one viewing of CBMJ), and the technology is impressive but nothing flashy.
Are people arguing for that?
To try and put this thread back on course, I'm of the mind that Stitch Great Escape should have remained open. It was another "C- ticket" that would have further padded out the land. Was it great? No. But it had it's place in the fandom. Unfortunately, Disney felt it wasn't up to their standard and financially beneficial to just shutter it.
Tomorrowland still needs attractions. It needs attractions in existing vacant spaces and it needs improvements. Hopefully, the SGE building will once again be guest-facing and house a "C-ticket" or comparable quality attraction. LLs or otherwise.
I will still die on the hill that the DVC lounge could've and should've been built in the numerous empty spaces in Tomorrowland- SGE and the abandoned sponsor lounge notably. We lost the Shootin' Arcade instead. Not that it was a favorite of mine but it had old school charm, it was free to play, and it was something to do in a park that needs things to do. But hey, now we have a cowboy talking about wayfinding cause... money!
As a stitch fan I hope it’s a success. A few more live action remakes for a Stitch attraction would be worth it IMO.
Fair enough. I think Stitch deserves an attraction without the remake, he's still super popular, but if that's what it takes... maybe the next few will bomb and we'll be free of it AND get a Stitch attraction that hopefully doesn't replace anything.
I agree with you 1000% and would love to see those ideas come to fruition. The problem becomes that people have not exactly been paying to go see original story movies lately. Remakes. Sequels. Horror. Seems to be the current money making themes.
Of all things, the only genre that keeps getting new, original movies is the Horror genre. Probably because it's hard to remake a horror movie- if people have already seen it, the scares aren't as scary. The Comedy genre is all but dead since all Comedy movies are now genre fusions, as if comedy alone can't sell a film.
As to Disney's defense: Franchise films make more money. The public votes on that with their money.
As to Disney's indictment: Disney's live-action studios' films that weren't based on a franchise were generally awful.
As to Disney's defense: they finally stopped making franchise-less bombs by just simply not making franchise-less movies altogether. Disney is letting 20th Century and Searchlight do the heavy lifting now of franchise-less movies.
As to Disney's indictment: Even 20th C. films are sometimes franchised, e.g., Apes and Predator.
Also: Disney
thinks they know what the fans want, but that's the issue- you can't go off what the audience wants, you have to TELL them what they want. Audiences as a whole are stupid- they don't know what they love until you give it to them. If they love something already and you keep giving it to them, they won't love it as much as you think they will. You have to keep doing actually new things, investing in new ideas. People had never heard of Stitch before when the film dropped in 2002 and it was a cultural phenomenon that is still beloved today. Meanwhile, in 2025, people already know who Stitch is- they'll see the remake, but the overall reception will not be as beloved as the original, even if the film does better financially. Not a single one of these remakes have been more universally loved than the originals. People might turn out to remakes and sequels more often in the short term, but they love original ideas more in the long term.
Really, though, Disney is doing remakes because it's cheaper- the story, characters, and songs are done, you just have to make a few changes and then film it. If Disney wanted to do originals, they could, and they'd market the hell out of them so people show up to see it. But sequels, remakes, etc. etc. are cheaper to make and have a much larger ROI, even if they're forgotten in a few years unlike the originals which last for decades. Snow White 1937 is more culturally relevant and beloved today than the remake that dropped a few months ago- in fact, the remake is practically already forgotten by most.
Not just them. My fourteen year old daughter inexplicably loves Stitch. I'm not sure if she's even seen Lilo & Stitch.
That's fair! I was moreso thinking of "millenials and moms" in the "people who have their own money to spend" sort of way. I'm sure tons of kids love Stitch, but it's still their parent's money.
I guess I should've also included "Gen Z" in my description since they're adults now- I'm Gen Z myself and I'm close to 30 (and I was BIG into Lilo and Stitch as a kid).
Thanks! I used that idea for my "Ultimate Castle Park" I've been chipping away at, but I think it'd fit a real-life park really well, especially now that the drunken genie has been let out of the alcohol bottle. Might as well add another lounge in the park, if not just to help out Beak & Barrel by spreading the crowds there out.
