Disstevefan1
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Good to hear! I always have hope movies do well, at least break even.
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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs
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Casper Gutman
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It indisputably is.
By the way, since you’re all about the numbers, Deadline had a series on the most profitable blockbusters of 2024.
The top 3 are all Disney.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Hey post that 6 more times so 3 of you can like it
Was that point being argued?
Nope…not once
So let me recap:
This entire watchdog party is their trajectory…which is self inflicted
2024 was a good year for them
2023 they BOMBED like 9 out of 11 movies
0 for 2 so far this year
Thunderbolts is reviewing well…but the tracking isn’t great so far. We’ll see
Now can we stay focused? Maybe skip the “it’s cinema and for art and all movies make tons of money on D+” please?…maybe just for a day?
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Box Office: ‘Thunderbolts*’ Storming to $73M-$77M Opening, Alec Baldwin’s ‘Rust’ Flops in Cinemas
Marvel's star-studded ensemble pic led by Florence Pugh and Sebastian Stan is winning over critics and audiences alike as it kicks off the summer box office season.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
brideck
Well-Known Member
Live in the now, man. Would Disney like to avoid bombs? Of course, but the hits are way more important. The profits from Inside Out 2 more than cancelled out the combined losses from the four biggest bombs from 2023 (The Marvels, Indy 5, Wish, & Haunted Mansion) all by themselves.
Just so it's in one handy place for anyone who may be interested, you can see 2024's top 10 money spinners below.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
So you wasted all that time typing to avoid reading comprehension?
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Okay, gang, we're off and running with a new movie from Burbank! Miss Zegler's agent can finally breathe a sigh of relief. 
Thunderbolts did $11 and a half Million at yesterday's previews. It's gotten good reviews and very positive audience feedback thus far. Can great word of mouth help Thunderbolts surpass its initial estimate of a $75 Million opening weekend? Could it get closer to the $89 Million opening weekend that Captain America did a few months ago?
Or is $100 Million possible this weekend for Thunderbolts?
Thunderbolts had a $180 Million production budget. It's going to need to get to at least $550 Million-ish globally to break even. Captain America, with the same budget, was a money loser for Burbank with $415 Million globally.
Thunderbolts did $11 and a half Million at yesterday's previews. It's gotten good reviews and very positive audience feedback thus far. Can great word of mouth help Thunderbolts surpass its initial estimate of a $75 Million opening weekend? Could it get closer to the $89 Million opening weekend that Captain America did a few months ago?
Or is $100 Million possible this weekend for Thunderbolts?
Thunderbolts had a $180 Million production budget. It's going to need to get to at least $550 Million-ish globally to break even. Captain America, with the same budget, was a money loser for Burbank with $415 Million globally.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Nobody wasted time or avoided anything. @brideck was just putting things into perspective since you appear to have this "you can't make up for the past" under the guise of a "what have you done for me lately" facade. Otherwise you wouldn't keep bringing up 2023.
Also just so we're clear for the record so far for 2025 Disney has had one bomb, one so so film, and one still in theaters looking like it may do ok. This is all before Thunderbolts releases today.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I think you're overestimating the marketing again as @BrianLo has pointed out before. So the breakeven is in the $415M-$450M range.Okay, gang, we're off and running with a new movie from Burbank! Miss Zegler's agent can finally breathe a sigh of relief.
Thunderbolts did $11 and a half Million at yesterday's previews. It's gotten good reviews and very positive audience feedback thus far. Can great word of mouth help Thunderbolts surpass its initial estimate of a $75 Million opening weekend? Could it get closer to the $89 Million opening weekend that Captain America did a few months ago?
Or is $100 Million possible this weekend for Thunderbolts?
Thunderbolts had a $180 Million production budget. It's going to need to get to at least $550 Million-ish globally to break even. Captain America, with the same budget, was a money loser for Burbank with $415 Million globally.
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
$100+ is a win based on tracking and could indicate legs…this is a fun one to watchOkay, gang, we're off and running with a new movie from Burbank! Miss Zegler's agent can finally breathe a sigh of relief.
Thunderbolts did $11 and a half Million at yesterday's previews. It's gotten good reviews and very positive audience feedback thus far. Can great word of mouth help Thunderbolts surpass its initial estimate of a $75 Million opening weekend? Could it get closer to the $89 Million opening weekend that Captain America did a few months ago?
Or is $100 Million possible this weekend for Thunderbolts?
Thunderbolts had a $180 Million production budget. It's going to need to get to at least $550 Million-ish globally to break even. Captain America, with the same budget, was a money loser for Burbank with $415 Million globally.
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BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Welcome to the brainless crew!
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Anything reasonable is not “brainless”…bad opinions presented and facts usually is
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Anything reasonable is not “brainless”…bad opinions presented and facts usually is
In case you didn’t understand the reference.
But I’m glad we have your permission now to talk about Thunderbolts with a modicum of optimism.
Welcome to the dark side as it were!
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That was based on tracking…and it still may be trueIn case you didn’t understand the reference.
But I’m glad we have your permission now to talk about Thunderbolts with a modicum of optimism.
Welcome to the dark side as it were!
You’re now banking a hit?
Might want to see if it holds…
We make a lot of predictions based on reprice and what’s put out there…somethings break both ways.
Mufasa “overchieved”…as it turned out. Little mermaid didn’t
But most things break the way they appear they will….including the two this year so far
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Nothing wrong with predictions, we all are often wildly wrong. But perhaps try not to put insulting qualifiers on them.
I hope Thunderbolts breaks well. I’d like it to. As I said, it didn’t make sense to my why you were seemingly cheering for it to do poorly, when we knew at the time it was a good movie. It makes far more sense for your current position to look forward to see how it does.
That is what I’m here for, hoping to see good movies do well.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
The Disney studios need a course correction…because they are not meeting their market
Just like the upper management is failing to meet its market on a variety of fronts.
It’s not “wishing for failure”…it’s demanding accountability.
Guess who the “worst” fans are? It’s the ones who want it to outlive our our own lives.
You don’t get that by making excuses as the consumer. We’re not on the same the side as the suits.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Are they still not including reshoots in the production budget?
There are tricks on both sides of the budget playbook…
No, ‘Brave New World' Budget Isn’t $180M; It Actually Cost $380M — World of Reel
If you want an inside peek at how the Hollywood spin machine works then look no further than what’s happening with “Captain America: Brave New World.”
www.worldofreel.com
We should keep an eye down the road when the real figures are buried in financial reports…as those pesky public company rules are required to file (after shell game and delay tactics)…
Can you take these “insider” reports from Hollywood at face value? Not wise…but do they sound absurd? No. What would be the advantage to writing them anyway?
Maybe break even points are inflated?…but it’s just as likely studios trying to do damage control under more strain (ahem)…are exerting pressure to report them down…truth be damned
Afterall…some clowns think tentpoles cost $350 to make because of paper masks…then one guy did the thanos snap and lowered the cost by half in a week.
I know…adulting is such a bummer
Disney Irish
Premium Member
So we’re back to this again? Thought we had enough of that earlier this year, guess not.Are they still not including reshoots in the production budget?
There are tricks on both sides of the budget playbook…
No, ‘Brave New World' Budget Isn’t $180M; It Actually Cost $380M — World of Reel
If you want an inside peek at how the Hollywood spin machine works then look no further than what’s happening with “Captain America: Brave New World.”
We should keep an eye down the road when the real figures are buried in financial reports…as those pesky public company rules are required to file (after shell game and delay tactics)…
Can you take these “insider” reports from Hollywood at face value? Not wise…but do they sound absurd? No. What would be the advantage to writing them anyway?
Maybe break even points are inflated?…but it’s just as likely studios trying to do damage control under more strain (ahem)…are exerting pressure to report them down…truth be damned
Afterall…some clowns think tentpoles cost $350 to make because of paper masks…then one guy did the thanos snap and lowered the cost by half in a week.
I know…adulting is such a bummer
It’s funny how there is never any “reports” of reshoot budgets for any other studio only the one with a mouse mascot. Funny huh. Do no other studios have needs for reshoots? I mean we know that movies from other studios have had extensive reshoots too but we never hear any “reports” of how much it cost. Guess they must have been free or was only a couple Million? But grievances gotta continue so must be that Disney is the only one spending money on reshoots.
Anyways as these “reports” can vary based on the source we can never take them at face value. Not that they don’t happen but we can never know what value to use as you can never know what or who to believe in those situations. So as has been discussed a bunch of times here we just take the reported budget and use that for our discussions. And then yes if someone cares they can go back and review the financials later on. @BrianLo I believe has actually done that if you wanna discuss it.
Lastly since you’ve brought it up recently as some measure, the stock market don’t care about individual movie budgets/profits or if they had $500M in reshoots. It only cares about the overall final financials for Studios. As long as the number is positive Disney can have as huge of budgets as they want or spend Billions on reshoots, no one is going to care other than some people who like to air their grievances on the interwebs. Bummer huh.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Could be a good sign for legs....