MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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lazyboy97o said:
Why do you feel lying is an important aspect of having fun?
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HUH? No one ever thinks that guy had any actual inside knowledge. From what I can tell, his role on these forums is sarcasm and photoshop, and I'm okay with that. For literally the entire time I've been here, it's never an issue. It's like someone issued a edict against him or something.
 
TrainsOfDisney

TrainsOfDisney

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lazyboy97o said:
Ideas are drawn to scale starting on day one.
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but some concept art takes more Liberty with scale then others. If you want to define the terms that’s fine.

Even with the cars attraction we have “blue sky” art and what I would call “to scale” concept art. I’m not saying it’s the correct terms… but not sure what to call them otherwise.
 
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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MisterPenguin said:
Previously, there's been a back and forth over whether this is still Frontierland, or, by having this "mini-land" it is its own land and thus, not part of Frontierland.

Disney has not called it a "land" officially AFAIK.
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To me, the D23 announcement was clear that it was a part of Frontierland. They introduced it by referring to Big Thunder, the Country Bears, and Tiana and saying Cars would join them, talking about exploring “new frontiers” or whatever. Mater also called it “Front-Tire Land”, which is a joke but I think if it was a new land it’d be called that (reminds me of the hilarious but wildly inappropriate “Engine Joe” easter egg someone suggested lol).

Having two attractions with the same IP next to each other doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a new land- Beauty and the Beast has an attraction, a shop, and two restaurants all next to each other in Fantasyland and it’s not considered a separate land. Same for Dumbo/Storybook Circus, Pirates/Caribbean Plaza, etc etc. The Cars stuff is just a subsection of Frontierland.
 
EricsBiscuit

EricsBiscuit

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If the RoA is underutilized, it’s because Disney has failed to take advantage of the space. They could easily bring back the canoes (people canoe in FL all the time, alligators are not an excuse, it was a cost cut), the keel boats, a second steamboat (they broke the first one) and plus the river some. Use it for projections during the fireworks like at DL. Reopen Aunt Polly’s. There’s so many things they can do with that space that would increase capacity and make them money.
 
Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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EricsBiscuit said:
If the RoA is underutilized, it’s because Disney has failed to take advantage of the space. They could easily bring back the canoes (people canoe in FL all the time, alligators are not an excuse, it was a cost cut), the keel boats, a second steamboat (they broke the first one) and plus the river some. Use it for projections during the fireworks like at DL. Reopen Aunt Polly’s. There’s so many things they can do with that space that would increase capacity and make them money.
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DL and DLP show you can get a lot of use out of the rivers. MK just doesn’t want to put in the effort. Eddie Sotto and Jim Shull both made mockups for ways to have a “best of both worlds” situation. I also made one myself (but I’m in bed staying up late when I shouldn’t be to talk about cartoon cars and rivers).

To me, the best case scenario is cutting the river in half, putting Cars on the back half and leaving the front. Either keep the rafts to the island or add a bridge/tunnel for people to use to get to the island. You get the walkway that connects BTM and Mansion, you get Cars, and you keep the scenic views of TSI and the riverboat. Everyone wins.

Also, imagine if they kept the island and built a nice waterside dining location where Aunt Polly’s is. The views at night looking towards the Mansion/LS would be beautiful- plus the fireworks- and you could make a ton of money through reservations!
 
Giss Neric

Giss Neric

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Jrb1979 said:
My biggest issue is for an off road rally race, the speed is going to be dumb downed to play to non thrill group that make up Disney. IMO it should be as fast at Test Track of 65 mph if not faster. And it should stimulate drifting around corners
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I agree with you that it should be thrilling since there a kiddie version beside it. However, how will a 64/65 mph speed work in an uneven terrain? It will be a painfully rough experience if that is the case. I would imagine it would be like Indiana Jones/Dinosaur type of bumpy experience but still tolerable.
 
JD80

JD80

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Jrb1979 said:
For some it's a failure due to downtime and it's a continuation of going away from the theme of the parks. Shoehorning IP where ever it fits.

I'm at the point I don't care what they do anymore. The average guest cares as much as about the history and theme of the parks as those in charge do. Cars will be a success no matter what it ends up being cause today's guests have an attachment to Cars.

My biggest issue is for an off road rally race, the speed is going to be dumb downed to play to non thrill group that make up Disney. IMO it should be as fast at Test Track of 65 mph if not faster. And it should stimulate drifting around corners.
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Parks aren't a museum dude.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost said:
Yeah, but they also shouldn’t be a hodge podge of random attractions shoved into wherever marketing thought they’d generate the most money.

(To be clear, I don’t mind Tiana’s, I actually like it. The Cars takeover is what I don’t like. I’m just debating the “museum” point.)
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A good museum is also not something that is just setup and left as is.

The TEA also doesn’t just publish theme park attendance estimates alone, it’s actually parks and museums. Museums also win Thea Awards.
 
JD80

JD80

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost said:
Yeah, but they also shouldn’t be a hodge podge of random attractions shoved into wherever marketing thought they’d generate the most money.

(To be clear, I don’t mind Tiana’s, I actually like it. The Cars takeover is what I don’t like. I’m just debating the “museum” point.)
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I think at lot of people are in the wait and see boat. This is a huge change and they have to nail it, anything less isn't going to be a scar on the parks. However, I think they'll do a pretty good job and I'll wait and see. If it turns out bad, I'll be the first to express that sentiment.

I just don't find it worthwhile to complain about it page after page after page. I wouldn't mind seeing this thread talk about updates, permits and predictions only. Even if it falls to the second page because there are no updates.

I'd love for the mods to keep the thread on track and enforce that.
 
JD80

JD80

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Jrb1979 said:
Dude you completely missed what I was saying. I'm all for new attractions cause the parks need it. My issue is always been how they go about doing it. Disney parks used to have a theme to them with attractions and IP that fit that theme.
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You haven't been to the parks in quite some time. I'd suggest taking advantage of the $99 a night hotels and $89 park tickets (sans MK).
 

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