MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Gusey

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I never actually noticed before that the Fort Langhorn half is still there. Are they gonna keep the riverboat as a small loop back there?

To that point, why not put Cars in the Fort Langhorn half? It's more room (iirc) and Fort Langhorn is infinitely less interesting than Tom Sawyer. The only thing interesting about it is the old animatronics. Putting Cars back there would preserve the vibe of the entrance to Frontierland/Liberty Square, keep the waterfront view of the Mansion, keep Cars out of view from the "real world" part of the land, and keep the temps down in the busiest part of the land(s).
Villains Land starts where Fort Langhorn is
I’m not even sure the number of people who disagree with this decision is that small. More than most any other Disney decision, all I’ve seen online is backlash and at best lukewarm excitement. I doubt it will matter, but to me this is an enormous mistake, and worst of all not even a true expansion. We lose 2 attractions and gain 2. We seem to always be trading off attractions in a resort that has the “blessing of size”. I think that’s my biggest issue overall.
Losing Tom Sawyer Island and Liberty River Boat. Gaining 2 Cars attractions and 2 Villains attractions in their place up to the railroad. 2<4 Cars on its own is not an expansion but the expansion was also called Beyond Big Thunder and we know that that means Cars + Villains Therefore expansion
 

TrainsOfDisney

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You do know that's literally happened again recently with this set of Imagineers. Chapek wanted Tarzan's Treehouse gone and Kim Irvine managed to get it to stay in the form of Adventureland Treehouse.
I did not know that - where did you hear that?
What’s wrong with the parks having some differences.
What’s wrong with the parks keeping things that people enjoy?
 

Gusey

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I did not know that - where did you hear that?

What’s wrong with the parks keeping things that people enjoy?
Think it was one of the panels she did around the time it opened (might have heard it on Connecting with Walt podcast). Basically the wood was rotting and management wanted to get rid of it but they managed to use the upcoming 70th, SEA, and the Swiss Family Robinson (maybe the TV show planned at the time) to convince them to keep the treehouse and update it
 

TrainsOfDisney

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Think it was one of the panels she did around the time it opened (might have heard it on Connecting with Walt podcast).
Nice! Yeah I heard Tony’s story at a panel he did as well. Too bad Kim isn’t attached to WDW the same way but I’m glad she’s able to make a difference in California. They did a great job with that treehouse - I enjoy it very much.
 

Casper Gutman

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I’ve yet to hear a strong argument as to why this attraction will be interesting. At the moment, between the “unique vehicle personalities,” shaky off-road sensation, and outdoor setting emphasizing landscaping, it sounds like an extended version of the outside loop portion of Uni’s Kong without any subsequent payoff to the setup.
 

FutureCEO

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I’ve yet to hear a strong argument as to why this attraction will be interesting. At the moment, between the “unique vehicle personalities,” shaky off-road sensation, and outdoor setting emphasizing landscaping, it sounds like an extended version of the outside loop portion of Uni’s Kong without any subsequent payoff to the setup.
Because Disney said we would like it...most rides Disney has built in the past couple decades have been horrible with a few good rides scattered in between.
 

DarkMetroid567

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It looks like there is a universally negative response on every social media site. That’s never stopped them before, but I’m sure people in Disney are noticing. But they’re still going to do it.
We still have yet to really believe that en masse negative community reactions actually manifest in something significant. If that were true, the lines for Tiana and Mission Breakout would be empty. The Cake Bake Shop wouldn’t be as busy as is seems to currently be.
 

lazyboy97o

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This is an utterly nonsensical statement reflecting a willful lack of critical thought.

Multiple insightful posters including the owner of this site have pointed out the corporate motivations that have doomed RoA and Muppets.
“I can’t figure out why nobody comes into my shop with the curtains drawn and the lights turned off.”

Funny how other parks are magically able to make the different components work.
 

MrPromey

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I’ve yet to hear a strong argument as to why this attraction will be interesting. At the moment, between the “unique vehicle personalities,” shaky off-road sensation, and outdoor setting emphasizing landscaping, it sounds like an extended version of the outside loop portion of Uni’s Kong without any subsequent payoff to the setup.
Hopefully with better uptime than that outside part of Kong, though. 😳
 

Casper Gutman

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What’s utterly nonsensical are all of your posts. You bash Disney 24/7.

Could it be that people disagree with the inmates at WDWMAGIc???? Shocker! It’s like a negative echo chamber in here.
My posts can be accused of being a lot of different things, but I hope “nonsensical” isn’t one of them.

I apologize, but I’m unfamiliar with your history on this site. What inspired you to post so frequently and aggressively at this particular moment?
 

phillip9698

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This is an utterly nonsensical statement reflecting a willful lack of critical thought.

Multiple insightful posters including the owner of this site have pointed out the corporate motivations that have doomed RoA and Muppets.

Hmm, let’s think this all the way through this time. Shall we?

What motivates corporations! Money! What brings money; people paying to enter the theme park along with merch and upsells. What are people who enter the MK not doing, well that would be going to TSI and riding the riverboat.

If people actually frequented those two areas by some considerable margin, then they wouldn’t be looked upon as extremely valuable underutilized real estate.

MK doesn’t have Fantasmic hitched to its river so there is very little of monetary value tied up to that real estate. Hence the easy decision to remove it.
 

TrainsOfDisney

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I’ve yet to hear a strong argument as to why this attraction will be interesting.
Agreed. If it’s tracked why aren’t they using test track technology so you at least ride in cars that look like the franchise- quite confusing.
Could it be that people disagree with the inmates at WDWMAGIc????
Can you explain why you feel so negatively towards people that would like to keep the rivers?
 

lazyboy97o

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Hmm, let’s think this all the way through this time. Shall we?

What motivates corporations! Money! What brings money; people paying to enter the theme park along with merch and upsells. What are people who enter the MK not doing, well that would be going to TSI and riding the riverboat.

If people actually frequented those two areas by some considerable margin, then they wouldn’t be looked upon as extremely valuable underutilized real estate.

MK doesn’t have Fantasmic hitched to its river so there is very little of monetary value tied up to that real estate. Hence the easy decision to remove it.
Again, I say, go look at Epcot. Half the center of Future World was torn down for a project that was too expensive and too small for its objectives. Businesses are not Vulcan automatons, they do all sorts of stuff for reasons beyond just a purely rational calculation.
 

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