Why do people defend Disney's snack prices...

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Goofyernmost

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You've perfectly articulated my feelings on this subject. The thread is in jest, of course, but golly it's hard to understand how supportive people are of Disney's pricing structure. It is taking money out of their pockets at an alarming rate, and they seem happy? about it. It boggles the mind.

I love #4. Yell out supply and demand as loud as you can to show how bidness smaht you are. They charge what the market will bear, you idiots!!!! It's their right!!!! Never mind that ingratiating good will among your "guests" is also a valid business strategy. They don't have to give the food away, but they also don't have to push guests to their absolute limit.
The real problem for me is... as a matter of fact, none of us are supportive, in the emotional sense, about the prices, but, many of us understand that it will be that way. We are supportive in the sense that we may pay that asked price because, for us, at the time, it is worth it to us. Otherwise we wouldn't. I, for example, almost never set foot in the ridiculously priced full service Disney Restaurants. It isn't worth it to me. Those that do support it, but, being a guest in those places may also be aware of the mind boggling markup of food that is perhaps just slightly above Denny's quality. So it's to each his own. For anyone to come on and demand to know why we defend Disney snack prices are, number one... not minding their own business. (If you don't want to buy it, just don't) If you expect Food Stamps to help you defray the cost of snacks at Disney. To bad, life isn't like that. It's not realistic to think that it is out of line for Disney to charge what they charge when other venues charge that and more, but, it's OK for them. Why? Because they are not Disney and we somehow expect Disney to be just a branch of the Salvation Army there to give charity to those that are poor and needy. Even the idea that Walt would never be doing that is just denial. Walt charged what the public would pay. You would be amazed at how cheap things were in 1955. Using 5 cent coffee as an arguing point is without any merit. Especially when the same people that are complaining about Snack prices are the ones that will happily go to Starbucks and hand over $5.00+ for water run through machines that make noise and give them a foamy cover on what is actually a 5 cent cup of coffee.
 

xdan0920

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The real problem for me is... as a matter of fact, none of us are supportive, in the emotional sense, about the prices, but, many of us understand that it will be that way

Many of us? No. Every single person understands that Disney will charge what they want. You are not mentally superior based on that, my friend. You are just in line with every other person on earth. Congrats on reaching the mean!

For anyone to come on and demand to know why we defend Disney snack prices are, number one... not minding their own business.

No demands, a simple question. An interesting one to be sure. Folks have been spewing venom at anyone who dares question Disney World's pricing strategy. LET THEM MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS IS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW! They shout from the rooftops. I LOVE PAYING huge premiums on food and beverages on vacation!!!!! It's quite strange.

If you expect Food Stamps to help you defray the cost of snacks at Disney. To bad, life isn't like that.

Because they are not Disney and we somehow expect Disney to be just a branch of the Salvation Army there to give charity to those that are poor and needy

Especially when the same people that are complaining about Snack prices are the ones that will happily go to Starbucks and hand over $5.00+ for water run through machines that make noise and give them a foamy cover on what is actually a 5 cent cup of coffee.

Taking those three quotes together....is it poories that are complaining or the faux rich who buy Starbucks? Which group is it man?
 

Andrew C

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I LOVE PAYING huge premiums on food and beverages on vacation!!!!!

No one says this....but good job jumping on the Empress Lily's bandwagon with your rhetoric. The moment I saw you like her post, I thought to myself, "oh, this was never meant to be a serious thread with serious debate then"
 

lazyboy97o

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No demands, a simple question. An interesting one to be sure. Folks have been spewing venom at anyone who dares question Disney World's pricing strategy. LET THEM MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS IS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW! They shout from the rooftops. I LOVE PAYING huge premiums on food and beverages on vacation!!!!! It's quite strange.
It definitely seems to be more a means of bravado then actual business acumen. Lower prices could make Disney even more money. Disney sells an emotional experience and positive sentiment can open wallets. It's even part of the theory and over promising behind the MagicBands, make it fun and get people to not think so much about how much they are spending. Making food prices feel inconsequential could get people to purchase more food but also increase willingness to purchase souvenirs with far higher margins.
 

xdan0920

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It definitely seems to be more a means of bravado then actual business acumen. Lower prices could make Disney even more money. Disney sells an emotional experience and positive sentiment can open wallets. It's even part of the theory and over promising behind the MagicBands, make it fun and get people to not think so much about how much they are spending. Making food prices feel inconsequential could get people to purchase more food but also increase willingness to purchase souvenirs with far higher margins.
Indeed. This is an alternate strategy that WDW could be employing. Rather then an edict that every single costumer facing location has to hit certain profit marks, treat the resort as a whole.
 

lazyboy97o

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Indeed. This is an alternate strategy that WDW could be employing. Rather then an edict that every single costumer facing location has to hit certain profit marks, treat the resort as a whole.
Which was the business the park opened with. There really is no Walt Disney World today, just a mass of geographically clustered business in fierce, cutthroat competition with one another who just happen to share ownership. Walt Disney World is a house divided against itself that is designed around ripping itself apart. In many ways the change in business model is the singular shift ultimately responsible for nearly every complaint consistently voiced about Walt Disney World.
 

xdan0920

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Which was the business the park opened with. There really is no Walt Disney World today, just a mass of geographically clustered business in fierce, cutthroat competition with one another who just happen to share ownership. Walt Disney World is a house divided against itself that is designed around ripping itself apart. In many ways the change in business model is the singular shift ultimately responsible for nearly every complaint consistently voiced about Walt Disney World.
Agreed. If you were making a flow chart, the change from treating the resort as whole to treating each little piece separately would be the peak. Flowing down to generic Merchandise, generic food, poor maintenance, and so on.
 

draybook

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I work in revenue management for an airline full time and teach part time, so you could say a bit of both. Complaining about it is a great thing if you love wasting your time :) .Walmart sells a bottle of water 30 cents (in a case) whereas Disney World sells one bottle for like $3. Why? Because in both cases that's what makes them the most money. Argue how that's not fair all you want do you really think that's going to change anything? Heck that's not even a good example because water is free in the park you'd have to be really ignorant or an idiot to pay for it!

Disney World attracts millions of people from literally all over the world, do you think most people that go there expect any different? I went to Tokyo Disneyland a few months ago and do you know how much I paid for my lunch at one of their QSRs? Hell I don't know, but I anticipated it being between $10-15 per meal (I don't drink soda and ask for free water), saved for the trip, and had a great time!


If we didn't complain about unfair pricing then we'd still be shelling out our money to the King.
 

Goofyernmost

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Many of us? No. Every single person understands that Disney will charge what they want. You are not mentally superior based on that, my friend. You are just in line with every other person on earth. Congrats on reaching the mean!

No demands, a simple question. An interesting one to be sure. Folks have been spewing venom at anyone who dares question Disney World's pricing strategy. LET THEM MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS IS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW! They shout from the rooftops. I LOVE PAYING huge premiums on food and beverages on vacation!!!!! It's quite strange.

Taking those three quotes together....is it poories that are complaining or the faux rich who buy Starbucks? Which group is it man?
Thanks for finding the way to twist everything that I said into what you felt I was saying instead of what I was saying. I didn't think that, proven by the fact that I said "most people" that my thoughts were any genius revelation. Not sure why you saw it that way. As for the three quotes, not even close to what they meant. It is the opposite of that. It says that it's the ones that will pay for the great Starbucks ripoff that are complaining that Disney shouldn't have such high prices because... well, because for some reason Disney should supplement your vacation expense as if they have some obligation to make your vacation cheaper. The "poories", as you put it, are not at the parks. They can't even afford to get there. It is the same group of people that if it serves their needs it is ok to be taken for a ride, but, if it isn't what they want then the seem to need to ask people why they serve their own needs by being willing to be taken by Disney. All the same my friend. And no one is spewing venom except the one that imply by asking that question that one is a fool to not be up in arms over the cost of snacks.

I'm sure since you seem to understand me so well, that you will also understand that no one should have to defend or explain their reason that they find the costs acceptable. No more then you should condescendingly be asked why you don't. That question is basically an intellectual insult that says very strongly.... Hey, why are you so dumb that you think that it is OK for Disney to charge that much. Sorry, but, why I do or do not do that is my personal business and none of yours. It isn't an interesting topic it is an effort to have a running argument expounding the outright ignorance of those that still recognize a theme park for what it is. An expensive place to have a vacation. However, to many it is worth the cost. If it's not to you then you shouldn't go there, again it really is that simple.

Also other then you, I have never heard anyone say "LET THEM MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS IS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW! They shout from the rooftops. I LOVE PAYING huge premiums on food and beverages on vacation!!!!!" What I have read into the posts, at least mine, is that it is what it is. I am not forced to go there and spend money, I go willingly and pay what is asked if that's the experience I want. As individual "guest" we cannot universally be made to justify it. It's not up to us or you or anyone else that thinks that their fascination for the Parks translates into individual power to change things that are more societal then driven by one company.

The people you folks are questioning do not feel that the prices are anymore outrageous then what other entertainment venues charge and don't expect Sam's Club prices at a place like Disney. Why others do really makes it a more interesting question, doesn't it?
 

xdan0920

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Thanks for finding the way to twist everything that I said into what you felt I was saying instead of what I was saying. I didn't think that, proven by the fact that I said "most people" that my thoughts were any genius revelation. Not sure why you saw it that way. As for the three quotes, not even close to what they meant. It is the opposite of that. It says that it's the ones that will pay for the great Starbucks ripoff that are complaining that Disney shouldn't have such high prices because... well, because for some reason Disney should supplement your vacation expense as if they have some obligation to make your vacation cheaper. The "poories", as you put it, are not at the parks. They can't even afford to get there. It is the same group of people that if it serves their needs it is ok to be taken for a ride, but, if it isn't what they want then the seem to need to ask people why they serve their own needs by being willing to be taken by Disney. All the same my friend. And no one is spewing venom except the one that imply by asking that question that one is a fool to not be up in arms over the cost of snacks.

I'm sure since you seem to understand me so well, that you will also understand that no one should have to defend or explain their reason that they find the costs acceptable. No more then you should condescendingly be asked why you don't. That question is basically an intellectual insult that says very strongly.... Hey, why are you so dumb that you think that it is OK for Disney to charge that much. Sorry, but, why I do or do not do that is my personal business and none of yours. It isn't an interesting topic it is an effort to have a running argument expounding the outright ignorance of those that still recognize a theme park for what it is. An expensive place to have a vacation. However, to many it is worth the cost. If it's not to you then you shouldn't go there, again it really is that simple.

Also other then you, I have never heard anyone say "LET THEM MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS IS POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW! They shout from the rooftops. I LOVE PAYING huge premiums on food and beverages on vacation!!!!!" What I have read into the posts, at least mine, is that it is what it is. I am not forced to go there and spend money, I go willingly and pay what is asked if that's the experience I want. As individual "guest" we cannot universally be made to justify it. It's not up to us or you or anyone else that thinks that their fascination for the Parks translates into individual power to change things that are more societal then driven by one company.

The people you folks are questioning do not feel that the prices are anymore outrageous then what other entertainment venues charge and don't expect Sam's Club prices at a place like Disney. Why others do really makes it a more interesting question, doesn't it?


For someone who doesn't approve of this line of discussion, you sure have dedicated a lot of words to it.

And not for nothing, there is quite a lot of middle ground between Sam's Club prices and WDW's. You think $12.99 for a USDA Select burger and fries is a good value, then okay, I guess.
 

Goofyernmost

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For someone who doesn't approve of this line of discussion, you sure have dedicated a lot of words to it.

And not for nothing, there is quite a lot of middle ground between Sam's Club prices and WDW's. You think $12.99 for a USDA Select burger and fries is a good value, then okay, I guess.
You ask questions, I give you answers. That takes words.

Again, because I understand and know that the prices are what they are doesn't mean that I think it's a good value. In fact, I believe I said that I won't eat a "sit down" meal on Disney property because the price doesn't match the value. That's hardly one that is defending the prices, I'm merely trying to explain why people will pay it if it meets their needs at the time. Not that I would grin and say hit me again because it feels so good when you stop. However, if anyone knowingly does the free bus to the resort from the MCO, with no other viable option but to be captive then they are solely responsible for having to pay the high prices. They limited their own options and did so voluntarily.
 

flynnibus

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I work in revenue management for an airline full time and teach part time, so you could say a bit of both. Complaining about it is a great thing if you love wasting your time :)

but are customers truly isolated silos or do they socialize and comingle?? You make the point that voicing disagreement is just a waste of time but that ignores that customers influence each other and raise awareness between each other. It's why tyranical governments control the media in the first place - to limit the spread of information or knowledge that can lead to dissent. Customers collaborating and sharing can also lead to dissent or influencing behaviors. So I wouldn't call it a waste of time to share your thoughts with others - it may not have a direct impact now, but customer sentiment and satisfaction isn't a game of a 10 million independent silos.
 

Goofyernmost

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but are customers truly isolated silos or do they socialize and comingle?? You make the point that voicing disagreement is just a waste of time but that ignores that customers influence each other and raise awareness between each other. It's why tyranical governments control the media in the first place - to limit the spread of information or knowledge that can lead to dissent. Customers collaborating and sharing can also lead to dissent or influencing behaviors. So I wouldn't call it a waste of time to share your thoughts with others - it may not have a direct impact now, but customer sentiment and satisfaction isn't a game of a 10 million independent silos.
Tyrannical governments and upscale theme parks are not even close to being comparable. One can dissent and attempt to influence behavior till the cows come home. It is still an independent decision not defined as a necessity and will have no influence on the prices at all, unless everyone stops buying then they will have to lower the prices. No amount of posting on this or any other forum will have any affect at all. If everyone that reads this board stops buying snacks, I doubt that Disney would even notice. The numbers are way to small.
 

xstech25

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If we didn't complain about unfair pricing then we'd still be shelling out our money to the King.
That's not even remotely comparable and insulting to billions of people throughout history that had no choice but to be born into places with horrible rule of law. If Disney prices too high they don't get business and lose money/eventually go out of business.

And before someone says "well attendance went down so the prices are stopping people from going," well obviously the prices are stopping people from going, prices stop people from going anywhere that's not free. The fact that Disney's attendance went down and they still made more money shows that when they raised prices they priced themselves closer to elasticity, although I will say that there are a whole lot of other factors that go into it as well.
 

draybook

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That's not even remotely comparable and insulting to billions of people throughout history that had no choice but to be born into places with horrible rule of law. If Disney prices too high they don't get business and lose money/eventually go out of business.

And before someone says "well attendance went down so the prices are stopping people from going," well obviously the prices are stopping people from going, prices stop people from going anywhere that's not free. The fact that Disney's attendance went down and they still made more money shows that when they raised prices they priced themselves closer to elasticity, although I will say that there are a whole lot of other factors that go into it as well.


It's very well comparable. You want people to hush and just take it. That's ridiculous.
 
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