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Volcano Bay

Discussion in 'Universal Orlando' started by Mike C, May 28, 2015.

  1. Tom Morrow

    Tom Morrow Well-Known Member

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    I saw the photos in the other thread about the new slide at TL. The themed slides indeed do look impressive... but why theme some so heavily and others basically not at all?
    Yeah but they're still themed though. To be fair, Blizzard Beach has some unthemed slides.
     
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  2. TJ Vazquez

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    I'm not really a Water Park guy (had a ton of bad experiences through the years) but this park makes me what to at the very least spend a few hours and explore.
     
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    11 Slides are heavily themed, 2 river attractions are highly themed, three kids area heavily themed and the volcano which houses 9 slides. So if 14 of the 18 advertised attractions are heavily story focused that already puts it over those at other parks and the slides that aren't as well themed are all attention grabbers by the road as all of them are also the higher thrill slides. Thrillseekers will want to come and go down thrillings slides, theming people will be shocked by the 14 story based attractions and enjoying that once that get inside. Its a win for everyone.
     
  4. sedati

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    I agree that as a collection of new slides, this park looks great. Theme is fine, though from the outset I never understood why they would do a volcano theme as there is another one down the way. And the volcano is what I'm most critical of. The detail looks fairly low as far as the rock-work craftsmanship goes. As more and more scaffolding comes down I keep thinking this looks like a giant rotted out tree trunk. The volcano look really only works from one side. Still think this will be a world class waterpark and if it causes the others to up there game, then it's more than a good thing.
     
  5. rushtest4echo

    rushtest4echo Well-Known Member

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    14 of the 18 attractions are not highly themed. That's just an outright lie. In fact, the opposite is a much closer number. I get that you work there or something, but the majority of Volcano Bay's slides will compare with Aquatica. Aquatica's slides have cute names tooand some generic island theme but they're not "heavily story focused" and neither are the majority at VB. And much like Aquatica's headliner body slides, the two drop slides at VB will probably send you through anything special so quickly that it's rendered useless. Still holding out hope that the hydromagnetic will be a world beater though, and I hope I'm wrong about the body slides in the volcano. The lazy river looks fab too, but again I'm not sure it'll be any more impressive that Aquatica's lazy river, or the one at Atlantis, or a few in the Middle East. It'll be great though, just not "industry changing". Everything else is something I've ridden elsewhere. Same light theming, same basic story, same slide, same lack of any theming throughout the ride itself. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it's the industry standard. But that's the thing, some people are convinced that this is creating a new standard in the industry, they feel VB is going to be the Wizarding World of Water Parks, and it's just not going to be.

    Then again, if perception trumps reality- then Universal's done a great job at creating the perception that this park is worthy of being considered above any class of water parks before it. That's complete hogwash, but again they've seemed to done a bang up PR job to convince people that it's going to be a world beater. Either way, it'll still be a great park that I intend to visit as a guest ASAP (though I've already seen enough of the park not as a guest to know that it's not some mindblowingly amazing water park in comparison to others around the world or even down the street). Anyone who's walked the place (myself included) and has seen what the water park industry offers elsewhere will not conclude that this park is head and shoulders above the industry's other offerings.

    This is sort of like a Six Flags/Cedar Fair vs Universal/Disney argument in the theme park realm. Sure, VB will totally outclass a Six Flags type waterpark, but it's not going to outclass a Disney type waterpark and it's certainly not going to one up everyone in the way that Potter did.
     
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    Man, you could take a queue from Socrates.
    "I know one thing; I know nothing"
     
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    Wish they'd build one of these in the US! Universal would actually "upend" stuff if they had one of these. ;)

    Not really, I mean that's insane, but still......
     
  8. rushtest4echo

    rushtest4echo Well-Known Member

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    That's not a quote of his...

    Visit Yas Waterworld, Atlantis and Wild Wadi- they're all within a two hour drive of each other (yes, on the other side of the globe, but still) and two or all three of them are easily more impressive than Volcano Bay. It's not even a debate.

    Each of those parks has a package of slides similar to VB (atlantis is a bit light on slides, but the ones they have are spectacular) but they're all much better integrated into the theme and landscape of the park. No towers sticking up with slides attached...

    Plenty of waterparks under construction in China will completely blow away any US water park in terms of theming and slide collection as well. There are almost too many to count!
     
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  9. flynnibus

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    Why compare to dak? Jus compare to the other two water parks in town that are tropical settings. Discovery cove...and TL.

    Discovery cove is awesome for what they accomplish given their location.
     
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  10. rushtest4echo

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    Agreed. Though Aquatica is practically the same theme as well- as are countless other water parks.

    I doesn't need to be (and isn't going to be) as immersive as AK- because there are like 2 other parks on earth as immersive as AK. Based on a walk though VB and my familiarity with the other Orlando water parks, it'll be top of the pack for most people. Theming and immersion wise, probably not. But the slide selection is excellent and the theming is great where it's present.
     
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    Ah yes, the sage advise of cliche's from some high school book club.

    And does anyone really use their true birthdate on message boards?

    Do I often give my opinion on unfinished projects? I'm stating that VB's offerings will be excellent (though not much beyond what other parks offer), and that the theming isn't going to surpass the rest of the industry, or even local parks. That isn't something that needs to be seen in a finalized state for me to comment on. It's not some big secret that Universal's using the only plot of land that they have and they're making the best of it for the price that they wanted to pay (which is not the amount of money showered on water park designers elsewhere in the world right now, I can assure you of that).

    For all intents and purposes, Volcano Bay is done. Yes, they need to finish everything and install pathways/lighting. But it's obvious what the place has to offer. It's a great park too. As far as finishing some plaster work and planting trees- yes that's obviously going to help the park out a lot. It's not going to apply themes where they don't exist. "Wait till it's done" doesn't apply to slide towers next to a freeway on one side or a 6 lane highway on the other and whether or not they'll have an immersive story/feel.
     
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    Universal has done an excellent job creating 18 attractions in the small space that they were limited to, all of which looks very alluring from the outside.

    As for the "lack of theming" does it really matter? I don't think anyone is going to walk away from there complaining about minimal theming when they walk out. If they do then they already came there with a grudge.
     
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    Taken yesterday by bioreconstruct and cleaned up in Photoshop by Scott Walker

    Presented for your enjoyment

    vb night.jpg
     
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    After that state representative's kid got decapitated by the one in Kansas, I think we've seen the last new airtime slide in the US for a long while.
     
  15. rushtest4echo

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    Back to Volcano Bay in the appropriate venue:

    Those who feel Volcano Bay is some paradigm shift in the water park industry, and feel that sets itself apart from other parks by having the newest versions of slides that have been offered in the catalog for years, having wave pool tech from the 1980's, having night time entertainment, bars & drinks, projection shows and interactive wristbands are:

    Ill-informed
    Universal fanboys
    Haven't taken a look around the industry
    Looking for anything to substantiate their notion that Disney is now 'behind Universal'

    and we've established that some people definitely meet at least the first criteria when they think those things are innovation. :p:p:p
     
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    Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, for some this may be something they've never experienced before so therefore they're excited about it.
     
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    No doubt, I'm excited to see it! But to never have experienced something is not the mark of something that is innovative. The discussion keeps trending towards this notion because it's being compared to the WDW water parks and instead of comparing their offerings, many people seem to be stating (including Universal's marketing) that things at Volcano Bay have never been done before and are industry firsts. So much so that this isn't even a water park, but really much closer to a theme park. Not even a themed water park, which has existed since Typhoon Lagoon, but a new type of park with unique technology and offerings that sets itself apart from any other water park. This is not the case.
     
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    You are insufferable.
     
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    And I see your point. However, I honestly do believe that many aspects of Volcano Bay are very innovative. Tapu Tapu for example, has never really been done before (at least a paid version for each guest and not a up-charge Fastpass-type system). The fact that there'll be very few lines is also a first as a result of this system. In addition, I know of very few water parks that have conveyor belts at every slide. The water coaster itself seems pretty inventive, with an actual station where you start and end, instead of dropping into a pool below.

    Now let me just say, I love Universal and I love Disney equally, but for different reasons. Comparing the innovative-ness of Volcano Bay and Typhoon Lagoon/Blizzard Beach is comparing apples to oranges. What was considered innovative then is completely different now. What Volcano Bay is doing is taking what was innovative back when Typhoon Lagoon opened and improving upon it, as well as introducing new ideas. :)
     
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    Hey, guess I'm ill-informed, but I'm always open to new info! What other water parks feature night time entertainment, projection shows, and interactive wristbands?
     
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