Smiddimizer
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Am I the only one cracking up at the title of this thread?
Yes, yes you are.Am I the only one cracking up at the title of this thread?
It's kinda like the Simpsons. I mean, they haven't really been good since 1993, but I'm there each and every week, watching the episodes then rushing off to the Sinpsons fan forum where I spend hours telling people how terrible the show is, and how Family Guy is so much better. 12 years in, and my user Flanders_90201 is there trashing the show.Fanbois be fanbois.
And I am pretty unapologetically frustrated, unimpressed, and uninterested in most of the new offerings at Disney since, like, 1993. I had hope in Everest, until I rode it. And alternately, I have been pretty darned impressed with what Universal has done to their resort.
There is always hope in a true fans heart that the ship can be turned. I bet there is even a Chicago Cubs Fan Forum somewhere.It's kinda like the Simpsons. I mean, they haven't really been good since 1993, but I'm there each and every week, watching the episodes then rushing off to the Sinpsons fan forum where I spend hours telling people how terrible the show is, and how Family Guy is so much better. 11 years in, and my user Flanders_90201 is there trashing the show.
Yep, I bet they spend all day talking about their trips to the Cardinals games.I bet there is even a Chicago Cubs Fan Forum somewhere.
There is, but it's mainly used to find out new ways to work "bro" into a sentence, arrange meetups at the Cubby Bear after games, complain about how Wrigley Field will be totally ruined by the new refurb, and work out the most efficient way to purchase as many beers as possible before the 7th inning stretch.There is always hope in a true fans heart that the ship can be turned. I bet there is even a Chicago Cubs Fan Forum somewhere.
There is, but it's mainly used to find out new ways to work "bro" into a sentence, arrange meetups at the Cubby Bear after games, complain about how Wrigley Field will be totally ruined by the new refurb, and work out the most efficient way to purchase as many beers as possible before the 7th inning stretch.
Am I the only one cracking up at the title of this thread?
Of course Universal steals some guests from WDW. I'm just saying that if Universal opens something new and their guest count increases by, let's say, 2 million that year, only a portion of that 2 million represents guest days lost to WDW. Some fraction, maybe a major portion, are tourists who wouldn't have visited Orlando at all that year. And some of those people, people who wouldn't have been to Orlando if Universal hadn't opened The Next Great ThingTM, will also spend time at other area attractions including WDW.Well wait. It is true. If universal Orlando did not exist and those guests visited they would be going to Disney. Guests did not make trips to exclusively go to Disney up until the last few years. (For the most part) it doesn't HAVE to cannibalize other parks but it does. Disney and Uni attendance was up last year and Sea World was way down. This shows people still went to central Florida to vacation but opted not to go to Sea World. You cannot tell me The people who did not go to SW chose not to go to Florida at all.
Would you agree that Disney has lost market share to Universal?
I understand what you are saying but it is hard to buy into that reasoning when kids are walking through Disney resorts/parks/downtown Disney with Harry Potter wands when they could have bought mouse ears.
Disney will announce Star Wars Land (most likely towards the end of this year) with a half dozen beautiful colorful conceptual drawings.
I agree with you. I'm not an AP but I would bring my family twice a year to Disney. We're about 3 hours away in FL so it's not such a bad trip. I'm not the key audience as I get the FL discount as well, but I was still a guaranteed twice a year mouse ears ice cream buyin fool who always eats a meal at the liberty tree. (best restaurant in Disney albeit with the least magic for kids)I'm thinking of not renewing my WDW pass and just keeping the UNI one. WDW is fun and I'll always love it but it's always too packed and not enough to do. After working there and going a lot you feel like some things are enjoyable but not worth the wait and you find yourself just walking around and then deciding to go home. At least at Universal there is enough to do with such little wait times that you feel like you got your money's worth.
I'm only one AP and Disney will laugh and say it's ok because a Brazilian family will cover me tenfold but that's the reality.
He's probably thinking in terms of wait time, but that'll be a bit skewed since the ride will have the same capacity as Maelstrom which was terrible.
Yes the preferred Universal pass is a great deal. That's the one I always get. The renewal price on it is even betterI haven't been to Universal since shortly after Potter 1 opened. I will say it's incredible what they were able to do so quickly with that. I've been a passholder/ cast member since 2011 and I do love Disney dearly but I'm strongly considering giving Universal a shot come 2016 when it's renewal time and coming back after Avatar opens . It also amazed me when I looked at prices that Universal's Preferred Pass which includes parking and no blackout dates is only a tiny bit more than what I paid for my Weekday Select pass that includes blackouts, no parking, and the obvious weekends not being included. It sounds like a great deal. Plus I've never experienced Transformers, Potter 2, Dispicable Me, and Kong possibly opening next year. Frozen Maelstrom just doesn't interest me. Now Avatar is looking to be amazing once that finally comes. Long story short, I never ever ever thought I'd say this but I may also take that break and see what Universal is all about for a year. In the past I've only considered a day or two. I still love Disney more than anything but maybe separation will be a good thing because once I'm back they'll be something new and exciting and old favorites waiting as well.
That could have the potential to work against it. After waiting for hours in line for it, I think some people will get off thinking "that was it?" rather than "that was amazing!!!" That's what happens when you go cheap.I suspect Kong will be more like a land in itself, anchored by a big ride, rather than just a Transformers style ride within a building. If that's the case then it will be fairer to compare it to (struggles to think of anything Disney's built on that scale) Belle's village, maybe?
Frozen will get bigger crowds, longer lines, and more hype, but the scale and ambition of Kong will make it a very close competition, and attract a much wider demographic in the long run.
That could have the potential to work against it. After waiting for hours in line for it, I think some people will get off thinking "that was it?" rather than "that was amazing!!!" That's what happens when you go cheap.
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