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The Creator Games!: An Imagineering Competition
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orlando678-
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Coming to Disney's Animal Kingdom is:
In Asia you will find the newest addition to Animal Kingdom after a line-up of four other major additions being the Rivers of Light show, Pandora, Journey to the Center of the Earth and Yangtze River Expedition. The ride will be build near the Maharajah Animal Trail and behind the flights of wonder show. It will take a small part of the track from the Wilderness Express. This ride will mainly represent China and its' culture. I added the theme of the dragon, because of Animal Kingdom's logo. The dragon( together with the Yeti) will represent the fictional/ legendary animals on Earth( I think it would be cool to see a line-up of these in Animal Kingdom in the future with Loch Ness monster in a new Europe area, Bigfoot in a new North America area etc.). The ride's building will be an Ancient Chinese palace. In front of the temple are ponds with water lillies in it. Also koi-carp fish are in the ponds. The ride will be a part dark ride and a part rollercoaster.
The queue will start in a smaller hall. Here you can see a big image of the legendary dragon Kow Siwang. This red dragon was feared because he represented death. It was said that he took souls to the underworld. Then some other halls will have Chinese artifacts and paintings in it. Then guests enter the pre-show room. Here an audio animatronic Chinese old lady welcomes us to the palace. She says that she's glad that we are here, now during the festival of lights. She then tells the story of the dragons, about both the friendly and the dangerous ones.Then she will tell us about the legendary Kow Siwang, one of the most dangerous Chinese dragons. She then asks us to go outside and to join the festival of lights. The station will simulate the feeling of being outside in the dark, but a lot of lanterns are lit to keep a nice atmosphere.
Guests board vehicles that look like Chinese carriages converted into rollercoaster vehicles. The gates in front of the vehicles open and you go past dark ride scenes. These scenes will be similar to the Pirates of the Caribbean town scenes, but here we will explore the festival. In the villages you can see audio animatronic villagers, acrobats, chickens, elephants, monkeys and thousands of shining lights. Then we will get a scene where we hear a loud growl. This scene will have a projection in the sky with a dragon flying by. The village scene will have buildings on fire.
Then we move into the woods. Here we first see pandas and other wildlife. Then we move into a darker and mistier area. We hear footsteps and then a giant audio animatronic dragon appears ( similar to the carnotaurus from Dinosaur). He breathes fire. The vehicle begins to accelerate as we hear sounds of the monster around us. The vehicles escape via a cave. There will be loops and other inversions. Then we go up a lift hill. At the top appears Kow Siwang in a way similar to the T-Rex of Jurassic River Adventure. We drop down into the forest. Then we see the gates of the Chinese village. They open by audio animatronic Chinese warriors. Inside we see the villagers celebrate the rescue of their village. You can see fireworks in the sky. Then our vehicles move back slowly to the stations.
Guests then exit the ride and end up in the Feng Ju Mystics souvenir shop. Here souvenirs themed to the attraction and Chinese artifacts are sold. The ride will take around 6 minutes and it will be all indoor. There will be 4 people on a row and 5 people behind each other in one vehicle. The ride will have a lot of audio animatronic, smoke and fire effects. I think you can say that the ride is pretty similar to the Revenge of the Mummy ride at Universal Studios Orlando, but this one will be longer. I hope that with this ride, Asia will represent another area of its' continent. I think it also fits better with the Yangtze river ride. This ride is able to finally bring the dragon to Animal Kingdom !
So, I completely misjudged myself. I didn't actually need my extension, but oh well I hope the results are fine.
Kow Siwang~ The Red Dragon:
In Asia you will find the newest addition to Animal Kingdom after a line-up of four other major additions being the Rivers of Light show, Pandora, Journey to the Center of the Earth and Yangtze River Expedition. The ride will be build near the Maharajah Animal Trail and behind the flights of wonder show. It will take a small part of the track from the Wilderness Express. This ride will mainly represent China and its' culture. I added the theme of the dragon, because of Animal Kingdom's logo. The dragon( together with the Yeti) will represent the fictional/ legendary animals on Earth( I think it would be cool to see a line-up of these in Animal Kingdom in the future with Loch Ness monster in a new Europe area, Bigfoot in a new North America area etc.). The ride's building will be an Ancient Chinese palace. In front of the temple are ponds with water lillies in it. Also koi-carp fish are in the ponds. The ride will be a part dark ride and a part rollercoaster.
So, I completely misjudged myself. I didn't actually need my extension, but oh well I hope the results are fine.
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Matt7187
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Hello all. As it turns out, you. Can not trust wifi in Europe. I haven't been able to check for a very long time, and am just seeing this now. I'm very sorry for leaving you all hanging, but you know, Europe sort of took precedence. There should be no conflicts like this for Sorcerors Apprentice, so see u there!
TheOriginalTiki
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My project is completed, just go back to page 22.
tcool
Well-Known Member
Session 9 : Countdown to Extinction
Concept Creation Challenge
For this challenge the final four were assigned a different park. In each park the final four will need to design a new attraction. I was given the Magic Kingdom. I decided to bring a brand new attraction to Fantasyland. This attractions is
The Tale of Sleeping Beauty
This new dark ride is going onto the spot of Fantasyland Gardens. Merida will be moved to a new meet and greet location on Main Street USA joining the other two princesses that already meet here. Part of the exterior of the attraction will be the Three Good Fairies Cottage. Every 30 minutes or so a colored puff of smoke will appear from the chimney. The other part of the exterior will be rock work and a gentle waterfall. The water from the waterfall goes down a stream under a new bridge constructed for the stream, and into the castle moat. New trees will be planted around the cottage. These trees will be stylized to match the the style of Sleeping Beauty.
Queue -
There will be two queues. Those of course being Fastpass+ and Stand-By. Fastpass+ will bypass the majority of the standby, and will merge at the loading docks.
As guests enter the queue outside they wind throughout the outside of the cottage. In the trees guests will be able to see several of Aurora's Friends. As the cottage entrance comes into view guests will notice Diablo in the tree looking menacingly towards the windows of the cottage. The window that he is looking at would show Aurora's Dress that Flora made. (The one not made by magic)
When guests enter Aurora's Cottage they are met with nice cool air. They will make a turn and go past the stairs to Aurora's Room. On the stairs will be a basket filled with plenty of berries. Guests will continue towards the kitchen. Here Fauna will be trying to bake a cake with all the ingredients floating in the air. Several cookbooks will be thrown around the room. Fauna will look up and welcome the guests to the cottage, and to Aurora's Birthday.
She will explain the cookbooks have been enchanted, and guests can help decide the best recipe to use. Each cookbook will have a different recipe for cake shown. Each cake recipe will emit a sweet smell. The cakes represented will be Vanilla, Chocolate, Strawberry, Pumpkin, and Berry. On the counter where the sink is located is an interactive game similar to the gem sorter in Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. Here guests can help Fauna sort out the cake ingredients.
Moving along to the main living area is where guests enter a battle field. Aurora's Dress is in the center, and changing colors. (The one made with magic) Flora is behind an overturned table. While Merryweather is behind several barrels and a basket full of knitting supplies. Throughout the room splotches of pink of blue appear on the wall for a few seconds, and go away. Flora is heard saying Make it Pink, and when she says that the dress changes to pink. Merryweather follows by saying Make it Blue, and the dress becomes blue. Guests will wind around the battle, and will be able to spot Diablo perched a top the mantle spying.
After the guests leave the room they enter the loading docks. Guests then proceed to enter enchanted carriages that seems to be carved out of wood.
Ride Stats & Info -
Attraction Type : Traditional Dark Ride (Think Alice & Pooh)
Vehicle : Enchanted Carriages
Theme : Sleeping Beauty
Number of Vehicles : 14
Amount of Riders : 28 - 42
Rows per Vehicle : 2
Riders per Row : 2-3
Duration: 2 Minutes and 30 Seconds
Riders per Hour : 1,120 - 1,680
Riders per Day : 10,080 - 30,240
Height Restriction : None
Fastpass+ : Yes
Ticket Rating : C-Ticket
Ride Experience -
Scene 1 - I Wonder
As the cottage doors swing open for guests to exit a clearing comes into view. Guests will pass by several of Aurora's forest friends in the trees. Aurora will be seen leaning against a tree gazing at a couple of birds. In her hands she's holding a basket filled with berries. In the distance is Stefan's Castle. Aurora will be seen and heard singing the song I Wonder.
Scene 2 - Once Upon a Dream
As the vehicles enter the next scene they are met with Aurora's Forest Friend's dressed up as Prince Phillip. The owl will occasionally go hoo-hoo. The vehicle then turns and guest will be able to spot Samsun, Prince Philip's Horse. The faint sound of singing is heard. The song is a faint version of Once Upon a Dream. Aurora and Philip are seen dancing in the woods, and are singing Once Upon a Dream.
Scene 3 - Maleficent
As guests reapproach the cottage they hear an eerie, but welcoming "Come In". As the doors open, and the vehicles enter eerie music can be heard. The whole cottage is dark except for a floating green orb. Aurora stands by about to touch the green orb. As the vehicles creep closer and closer she touches the orb. The music stops Aurora seems to fall, and the vehicles quickly spin around focusing on the evil green fairy herself, Maleficent. A loud cackle is heard as her goons pop up capturing the vehicles.
Scene 4 - The Dungeon
As guest come out of the dark cottage they enter Maleficent's Dungeon. Here skeletons are seen chained to the wall. The occasional spider comes down from the ceiling scaring guests. Merryweather and Fauna are seen using their magic wands to free Prince Philip from his chains. Flora is seen casting a spell, and making Diablo stone. She then says that Philip has to save Aurora and stop Maleficent. As the vehicles get ready to leave the dungeon briar begins to form. Maleficent is heard cackling, and recites one of her lines "Now you shall deal with me, and all the powers of hell!" A flash of green covers the next scene for a second as the guests enter.
Concept Creation Challenge
For this challenge the final four were assigned a different park. In each park the final four will need to design a new attraction. I was given the Magic Kingdom. I decided to bring a brand new attraction to Fantasyland. This attractions is
The Tale of Sleeping Beauty
This new dark ride is going onto the spot of Fantasyland Gardens. Merida will be moved to a new meet and greet location on Main Street USA joining the other two princesses that already meet here. Part of the exterior of the attraction will be the Three Good Fairies Cottage. Every 30 minutes or so a colored puff of smoke will appear from the chimney. The other part of the exterior will be rock work and a gentle waterfall. The water from the waterfall goes down a stream under a new bridge constructed for the stream, and into the castle moat. New trees will be planted around the cottage. These trees will be stylized to match the the style of Sleeping Beauty.
Queue -
There will be two queues. Those of course being Fastpass+ and Stand-By. Fastpass+ will bypass the majority of the standby, and will merge at the loading docks.
As guests enter the queue outside they wind throughout the outside of the cottage. In the trees guests will be able to see several of Aurora's Friends. As the cottage entrance comes into view guests will notice Diablo in the tree looking menacingly towards the windows of the cottage. The window that he is looking at would show Aurora's Dress that Flora made. (The one not made by magic)
When guests enter Aurora's Cottage they are met with nice cool air. They will make a turn and go past the stairs to Aurora's Room. On the stairs will be a basket filled with plenty of berries. Guests will continue towards the kitchen. Here Fauna will be trying to bake a cake with all the ingredients floating in the air. Several cookbooks will be thrown around the room. Fauna will look up and welcome the guests to the cottage, and to Aurora's Birthday.
She will explain the cookbooks have been enchanted, and guests can help decide the best recipe to use. Each cookbook will have a different recipe for cake shown. Each cake recipe will emit a sweet smell. The cakes represented will be Vanilla, Chocolate, Strawberry, Pumpkin, and Berry. On the counter where the sink is located is an interactive game similar to the gem sorter in Seven Dwarfs Mine Train. Here guests can help Fauna sort out the cake ingredients.
Moving along to the main living area is where guests enter a battle field. Aurora's Dress is in the center, and changing colors. (The one made with magic) Flora is behind an overturned table. While Merryweather is behind several barrels and a basket full of knitting supplies. Throughout the room splotches of pink of blue appear on the wall for a few seconds, and go away. Flora is heard saying Make it Pink, and when she says that the dress changes to pink. Merryweather follows by saying Make it Blue, and the dress becomes blue. Guests will wind around the battle, and will be able to spot Diablo perched a top the mantle spying.
After the guests leave the room they enter the loading docks. Guests then proceed to enter enchanted carriages that seems to be carved out of wood.
Ride Stats & Info -
Attraction Type : Traditional Dark Ride (Think Alice & Pooh)
Vehicle : Enchanted Carriages
Theme : Sleeping Beauty
Number of Vehicles : 14
Amount of Riders : 28 - 42
Rows per Vehicle : 2
Riders per Row : 2-3
Duration: 2 Minutes and 30 Seconds
Riders per Hour : 1,120 - 1,680
Riders per Day : 10,080 - 30,240
Height Restriction : None
Fastpass+ : Yes
Ticket Rating : C-Ticket
Ride Experience -
Scene 1 - I Wonder
As the cottage doors swing open for guests to exit a clearing comes into view. Guests will pass by several of Aurora's forest friends in the trees. Aurora will be seen leaning against a tree gazing at a couple of birds. In her hands she's holding a basket filled with berries. In the distance is Stefan's Castle. Aurora will be seen and heard singing the song I Wonder.
Scene 2 - Once Upon a Dream
As the vehicles enter the next scene they are met with Aurora's Forest Friend's dressed up as Prince Phillip. The owl will occasionally go hoo-hoo. The vehicle then turns and guest will be able to spot Samsun, Prince Philip's Horse. The faint sound of singing is heard. The song is a faint version of Once Upon a Dream. Aurora and Philip are seen dancing in the woods, and are singing Once Upon a Dream.
Scene 3 - Maleficent
As guests reapproach the cottage they hear an eerie, but welcoming "Come In". As the doors open, and the vehicles enter eerie music can be heard. The whole cottage is dark except for a floating green orb. Aurora stands by about to touch the green orb. As the vehicles creep closer and closer she touches the orb. The music stops Aurora seems to fall, and the vehicles quickly spin around focusing on the evil green fairy herself, Maleficent. A loud cackle is heard as her goons pop up capturing the vehicles.
Scene 4 - The Dungeon
As guest come out of the dark cottage they enter Maleficent's Dungeon. Here skeletons are seen chained to the wall. The occasional spider comes down from the ceiling scaring guests. Merryweather and Fauna are seen using their magic wands to free Prince Philip from his chains. Flora is seen casting a spell, and making Diablo stone. She then says that Philip has to save Aurora and stop Maleficent. As the vehicles get ready to leave the dungeon briar begins to form. Maleficent is heard cackling, and recites one of her lines "Now you shall deal with me, and all the powers of hell!" A flash of green covers the next scene for a second as the guests enter.
Scene 5 - The Fight
As guests enter the room Dragon Maleficent's head swoops into the room, and out of her nostrils comes smoke. Prince Philip appears from the briar. Maleficent moves her head toward Philip, and opens her mouth. As they get out of the guests point of view fire is heard coming from her mouth. (Only the noise there will be no actual fire) Soon the whole room increases in temperature. The briar seems to have caught on fire as well.
As guests turn the corner the room flashes as they see that Philip threw his sword. His sword was able to pierce into Maleficent's Dragon body and kill her. She seems to start to fall down the vehicles move forward. The vehicles go through a tunnel of briar as a crash is heard and Maleficent is finally dead.
Scene 6 - Finale
As guests enter the room Dragon Maleficent's head swoops into the room, and out of her nostrils comes smoke. Prince Philip appears from the briar. Maleficent moves her head toward Philip, and opens her mouth. As they get out of the guests point of view fire is heard coming from her mouth. (Only the noise there will be no actual fire) Soon the whole room increases in temperature. The briar seems to have caught on fire as well.
As guests turn the corner the room flashes as they see that Philip threw his sword. His sword was able to pierce into Maleficent's Dragon body and kill her. She seems to start to fall down the vehicles move forward. The vehicles go through a tunnel of briar as a crash is heard and Maleficent is finally dead.
Scene 6 - Finale
As the doors to Sleeping Beauty's Castle swing open the vehicles go in. Here guests can clearly see that peace has been restored, and all is well. King Stefan and King Hurbert are seen in the distance celebrating and drinking wine. Aurora and Philip are seen ballroom dancing to a ballad of Once Upon A Dream. Aurora's Dress will change color every so often from blue to pink. As the ride nears the end Merryweather and Flora are still debating, and changing the color of Aurora's Dress while Fauna cries saying that she just loves happy endings. As the vehicles leave the castle and renter the cottage a painted mural of Aurora and Philip dancing has been painted onto the wall. It says 'And They Lived Happily Ever After' finally ending The Tale of Sleeping Beauty.
spacemt354
Chili's
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TheOriginalTiki
Well-Known Member
@spacemt354 and I will be reviewing all the projects that came out of the "Wonders of Vacancy" round in about twenty minutes!
spacemt354
Chili's
Okay, once again great projects by everyone. It was really tough making a decision on this one, considering how much creative thinking you all clearly put into these projects. Nevertheless, here are my reviews. A note to the contestants that like before, these are not the final standings, as @IDInstitute 's reviews will come tomorrow and our rankings will be combined. In the event of a tie in the standings, we will then debate and discuss some more.
Also I'll try to make these reviews as detailed as possible, seeing as we are at the point in the game where reviews mean everything. It's only courteous and fair to you, the contestants, that we give sound feedback for these final rounds since you've all shown your skills and you're very hard to separate
Here ya go...
Also I'll try to make these reviews as detailed as possible, seeing as we are at the point in the game where reviews mean everything. It's only courteous and fair to you, the contestants, that we give sound feedback for these final rounds since you've all shown your skills and you're very hard to separate
Here ya go...@TheOriginalTiki - UK Pavilion - Clock Cleaners
When I read your ride title, for some reason I thought of that Nickelodeon movie Clockstoppers in the early 2000s. Childhood films aside, I thought this type of design was an excellent inclusion for World Showcase as a whole. While the design and spacing of the attraction I'll get into later on in the review, I think the general premise of adding a family friendly roller coaster to Epcot is something that the park could benefit from.
First off, I think the inclusion of Big Ben was a great add-on to the UK pavilion. I think it would be a good counterpart to St. Mark's Campanile across the World Showcase Lagoon in Italy. With that said, my two complaints about it are regarding its size and location. For size, you said it would be 120 feet tall. Just for comparison sake, the Eiffel Tower in the France Pavilion, right next door, is 69 feet tall, and St. Mark's Campanile is 83 feet tall, which I believe is the tallest (if not one of the tallest) structures in all of World Showcase. 120 feet would dwarf all the other icons in each pavilion, which could be a drawback to the design as a whole. In regards to location, it was never specifically stated where the attraction would be located in the pavilion. I'm assuming it would be located behind where the British Revolution plays, seeing as there is some empty space back there.
I really like the aesthetic of the tower as a whole though. The bell ringing, etc. It really brings a different vibe to the pavilion, in a good way. I also enjoyed how you incorporated the history of the people who scaled such heights to clean and maintain historic icons, though I probably would have kept it to British (or UK in general) history, seeing as looking at the Golden Gate Bridge and such would take me out of the European vibe.
As for the ride itself, that 90 degree vertical climb looks intense! And the spinning as well. Is there a height restriction on this ride? If it's 48 inches like Primeval Whirl, that may take the family friendly aspect away from it a tad. But for me as a thrill seeker, it would be pretty cool to ride! As I was reading, it kinda reminded me of a more detailed, less intense version of this coaster coming to Orlando called Skyscraper, just because of the in and out aspect of a tall vertical structure.
Overall, I think you were definitely on the right creative track here. A few minor things I feel you could have improved or clarified, but a very solid project nonetheless.
@orlando678- Kow Siwang - The Red Dragon
This was really interesting. I much enjoyed how you tied it in with a past attraction in The Creator Games. However, for me, I think Asia is already filled with attractions, especially since in this competition, JttCotE was moved to the east side of Animal Kingdom, and we already have the Yangtze River Expedition as well as Expedition Everest. But getting into the attraction itself, I actually enjoyed how you incorporated the Chinese aspect of Asian culture into this attraction, blending in with Yangtze and drifting from the focus on the Himalayan/Nepal settings.
I'm a bit questionable on the location not only because of other popular attraction but because of the size and scope of this attraction. A map would have definitely been helping for me personally just so I can visualize what is going on. That being said I also like how this attraction is indoors, seeing as DAK needs more indoor A/C driven attractions. The visuals and ride layout were the strengths of this proposal, as it really seems to click with me as you explained how you flowed from one scene to the next.
One other minor nitpick was that I felt like some of the ideas of the attraction took too much inspiration from other attractions. At one point you basically said it was very similar to Revenge of the Mummy, which is great, but you actually would be better off not saying that. Because in the end, this is actually a very good attraction as a whole, despite some minor critiques.
@tcool - The Tale of Sleeping Beauty
Nice design and layout for this project. Your presentation skills have really improved, at least in my mind, from the initial presentation in this competition. As for the attraction, I like where you were going by adding a C-ticket attraction to the Magic Kingdom, though I'm not sure it's the best location. The Fantasyland Gardens is directly east of the Castle, and occupies a very small space. I tried and just barely fit Peter Pan's flight in its location, so while the attraction may fit, it would have been nice to see how you would compensate for the lack of greenery in the area now that there is a building there. Especially since in your queue design, you say the guests are wandering outside of the cottage (which I'm assuming houses the attraction itself) For Peter Pan, the queue is very narrow and contained indoors, so more guests can fit inside the building. I feel like that kind of a queue would be more realistic for this type of attraction.
But your attraction itself is very well done. I appreciate and enjoy your statistics and like the scene by scene descriptions. I don't think the ride itself is too outlandish in design, and I can see this as something that could be a good supplement to the lost but not forgotten Snow White Scary Adventures dark ride. It calls back to the classic Disney dark ride techniques and doesn't get too fancy in the design. I also think with the popularity of Maleficent, a Sleeping Beauty attraction could be a possibility. Overall a solid design, but I feel like some aspects of the queue especially, and the ride placement itself, feels too claustrophobic to have the winding queue and ride building size be feasible. But feasibility isn't everything and your ride design is something to be proud of.
@DisneyPrincess1993 - The Villains' Takeover Headquarters
A really neat idea incorporating the villains into Fantasyland. A Villains area is something armchair imagineers always consider to be a top priority given the lack of Villain based attractions, with the variety of amazing and psychologically rich Disney villain characters we have to explore. While one ride couldn't do everyone justice, it's nice that the Villains get a permanent location where they can shine.
To the design itself, the castle may become a bit of overkill, as there would now be 4 castles (if you think Prince Eric's Castle is a Castle) in Fantasyland. Also how tall is the castle? If guests can see it from Main Street, it may cause some distress among Disney purists who don't want the view of the lone Cinderella Castle to be affected by anything extraneous. While I don't agree with it being seen from Main Street, it does tie into your ying/yang theory where there should be a balance between good and evil. For that philosophical theme, I think that could work well.
In regards to the fallout zone, I guess you could push it back, but I honestly don't know enough about pyrotechnics to make an assertion on how that would effect the overall quality of Wishes. Depending on how much of the fireworks fallout zone the castle takes up, if it's only twenty-thirty feet back it may not be an issue.
My favorite parts were the queue and the ride. What's interesting is it seems to appeal to older kids, which would make sense, seeing as a villains ride could be too scary for small kids. A 48 inch height limit would be the highest restriction in all of MK (if you don't could the 52 inches to ride by yourself in Tomorrowland Speedway) so it would definitely be a very unique addition. Also Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey is one of my favorite rides ever, and I thought the technology was outstanding, so incorporating it into a ride like this would be very interesting.
Overall, it was a really solid proposal and something that I think could be a great addition to the park. While a few nitpicks got in the way, it was still a solid job.
My Rankings:
1) orlando678-
2) DisneyPrincess1993
3) TheOriginalTiki
4) tcool
When I read your ride title, for some reason I thought of that Nickelodeon movie Clockstoppers in the early 2000s.
Childhood films aside, I thought this type of design was an excellent inclusion for World Showcase as a whole. While the design and spacing of the attraction I'll get into later on in the review, I think the general premise of adding a family friendly roller coaster to Epcot is something that the park could benefit from.First off, I think the inclusion of Big Ben was a great add-on to the UK pavilion. I think it would be a good counterpart to St. Mark's Campanile across the World Showcase Lagoon in Italy. With that said, my two complaints about it are regarding its size and location. For size, you said it would be 120 feet tall. Just for comparison sake, the Eiffel Tower in the France Pavilion, right next door, is 69 feet tall, and St. Mark's Campanile is 83 feet tall, which I believe is the tallest (if not one of the tallest) structures in all of World Showcase. 120 feet would dwarf all the other icons in each pavilion, which could be a drawback to the design as a whole. In regards to location, it was never specifically stated where the attraction would be located in the pavilion. I'm assuming it would be located behind where the British Revolution plays, seeing as there is some empty space back there.
I really like the aesthetic of the tower as a whole though. The bell ringing, etc. It really brings a different vibe to the pavilion, in a good way. I also enjoyed how you incorporated the history of the people who scaled such heights to clean and maintain historic icons, though I probably would have kept it to British (or UK in general) history, seeing as looking at the Golden Gate Bridge and such would take me out of the European vibe.
As for the ride itself, that 90 degree vertical climb looks intense! And the spinning as well. Is there a height restriction on this ride? If it's 48 inches like Primeval Whirl, that may take the family friendly aspect away from it a tad. But for me as a thrill seeker, it would be pretty cool to ride! As I was reading, it kinda reminded me of a more detailed, less intense version of this coaster coming to Orlando called Skyscraper, just because of the in and out aspect of a tall vertical structure.
Overall, I think you were definitely on the right creative track here. A few minor things I feel you could have improved or clarified, but a very solid project nonetheless.
@orlando678- Kow Siwang - The Red Dragon
This was really interesting. I much enjoyed how you tied it in with a past attraction in The Creator Games. However, for me, I think Asia is already filled with attractions, especially since in this competition, JttCotE was moved to the east side of Animal Kingdom, and we already have the Yangtze River Expedition as well as Expedition Everest. But getting into the attraction itself, I actually enjoyed how you incorporated the Chinese aspect of Asian culture into this attraction, blending in with Yangtze and drifting from the focus on the Himalayan/Nepal settings.
I'm a bit questionable on the location not only because of other popular attraction but because of the size and scope of this attraction. A map would have definitely been helping for me personally just so I can visualize what is going on. That being said I also like how this attraction is indoors, seeing as DAK needs more indoor A/C driven attractions. The visuals and ride layout were the strengths of this proposal, as it really seems to click with me as you explained how you flowed from one scene to the next.
One other minor nitpick was that I felt like some of the ideas of the attraction took too much inspiration from other attractions. At one point you basically said it was very similar to Revenge of the Mummy, which is great, but you actually would be better off not saying that. Because in the end, this is actually a very good attraction as a whole, despite some minor critiques.
@tcool - The Tale of Sleeping Beauty
Nice design and layout for this project. Your presentation skills have really improved, at least in my mind, from the initial presentation in this competition. As for the attraction, I like where you were going by adding a C-ticket attraction to the Magic Kingdom, though I'm not sure it's the best location. The Fantasyland Gardens is directly east of the Castle, and occupies a very small space. I tried and just barely fit Peter Pan's flight in its location, so while the attraction may fit, it would have been nice to see how you would compensate for the lack of greenery in the area now that there is a building there. Especially since in your queue design, you say the guests are wandering outside of the cottage (which I'm assuming houses the attraction itself) For Peter Pan, the queue is very narrow and contained indoors, so more guests can fit inside the building. I feel like that kind of a queue would be more realistic for this type of attraction.
But your attraction itself is very well done. I appreciate and enjoy your statistics and like the scene by scene descriptions. I don't think the ride itself is too outlandish in design, and I can see this as something that could be a good supplement to the lost but not forgotten Snow White Scary Adventures dark ride. It calls back to the classic Disney dark ride techniques and doesn't get too fancy in the design. I also think with the popularity of Maleficent, a Sleeping Beauty attraction could be a possibility. Overall a solid design, but I feel like some aspects of the queue especially, and the ride placement itself, feels too claustrophobic to have the winding queue and ride building size be feasible. But feasibility isn't everything and your ride design is something to be proud of.
@DisneyPrincess1993 - The Villains' Takeover Headquarters
A really neat idea incorporating the villains into Fantasyland. A Villains area is something armchair imagineers always consider to be a top priority given the lack of Villain based attractions, with the variety of amazing and psychologically rich Disney villain characters we have to explore. While one ride couldn't do everyone justice, it's nice that the Villains get a permanent location where they can shine.
To the design itself, the castle may become a bit of overkill, as there would now be 4 castles (if you think Prince Eric's Castle is a Castle) in Fantasyland. Also how tall is the castle? If guests can see it from Main Street, it may cause some distress among Disney purists who don't want the view of the lone Cinderella Castle to be affected by anything extraneous. While I don't agree with it being seen from Main Street, it does tie into your ying/yang theory where there should be a balance between good and evil. For that philosophical theme, I think that could work well.
In regards to the fallout zone, I guess you could push it back, but I honestly don't know enough about pyrotechnics to make an assertion on how that would effect the overall quality of Wishes. Depending on how much of the fireworks fallout zone the castle takes up, if it's only twenty-thirty feet back it may not be an issue.
My favorite parts were the queue and the ride. What's interesting is it seems to appeal to older kids, which would make sense, seeing as a villains ride could be too scary for small kids. A 48 inch height limit would be the highest restriction in all of MK (if you don't could the 52 inches to ride by yourself in Tomorrowland Speedway) so it would definitely be a very unique addition. Also Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey is one of my favorite rides ever, and I thought the technology was outstanding, so incorporating it into a ride like this would be very interesting.
Overall, it was a really solid proposal and something that I think could be a great addition to the park. While a few nitpicks got in the way, it was still a solid job.
My Rankings:
1) orlando678-
2) DisneyPrincess1993
3) TheOriginalTiki
4) tcool
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orlando678-
Well-Known Member
How many judges do we have during this session?
spacemt354
Chili's
Just IDI and myself. Sam's in Europe by now I think.
Session 9: Countdown to Elimination
@IDInstitute's Concept Creation Challenge Reviews
Wow...we're already at the final four! And, I must say, this is probably one of the closest challenges yet...However, at least one of you will be eliminated. Without much more wait, let's jump right in to the projects....
@TheOriginalTiki
Nice job Tiki! First of all, I don't really agree with this statement that Epcot is the perfect place for a coaster. Like, not really at all Of course this is just me, but Epcot never really felt like to me the place for big thrills and roller coasters, especially WS. Also, the fact that it's a generic wild mouse coaster I'm not too crazy about, especially because we already have one in WDW (Primeval Whirl).
I like how you included the short! I love those little shorts cartoons, and I think that could make for a nice story. However, you taking out the cartoon characters was an important touch. I also really liked the Big Ben that will be built in WS...It could be really cool and add to the skyline like you said! The only thing though (which ties back to my earlier problem) is that it seems too thrilling for WS.
The story is good and for sure inspired. If I had a soundbite or video of Dan celebrating Blue Collar workers I would love to play it right now Though it just feels a bit odd to dedicate a whole, massive attraction to that, as to me it doesn't really do a full job of representing the UK (Though, I can't say Frozen does to Norway either, so what do I know ). Anyways, I don't have too much else to complain about the rest of the attraction, you took your time and created a fun, detailed experience. Overall, this seems like a REALLY cool and fun experience that I would love, the only issue for me is how much it really "clicks" with the rest of WS.
@orlando678-
Great work orlando678-! I really like this theme you went with, it seems like a great attraction to compliment the rest of Asia.
I really like the facade and queue here. It sets up the story well and really fits with the theme. I also love how you created a backstory that felt authentic and immersive into the culture. It would have maybe been cooler though if it was an actual legend in Chinese culture to really tie into the representation more, but there's nothing really wrong with this.
I noticed how this is also a roller coaster. I feel like DAK needs more family dark rides, especially considering there's already a roller coaster and thrilling rapids ride in the surrounding area. Also, as I read through this story, I feel like the location given might not actually have enough room for this ride as it seems to require a lot of space. Despite that, I think this is a really cool ride and story presented! Overall, great job creating a very thrilling attraction for WDW's DAK, which I can already feel drawing in lots of crowds and further creating DAK as one of the best parks in Orlando!
@tcool
Nice work tcool! This attraction seems really immersive, and the level of detail sounds to be on par with the rest of New Fantasyland which is really what MK needs. Simply even in things like the cartoony trees sounds to be really detailed yet fictitious enough to make you feel like you are in a Fantasy village. I do question location though. First of all, I really don't think there's enough room for a dark ride where you mentioned. It's a very tight space, and I feel like it would only add to the feeling of a concrete jungle in the Castle Courtyard area. Second (and this refers to location of an attraction in general), Fantasyland just had a complete refurbishment. I think Fantasyland is the last place in MK that needs/deserves a new attraction, other than major refurbishments on things like Peter Pan.
I have to be honest now, I actually have never seen Sleeping Beauty It kind of works as a pro and con though, I think you did a great job retelling the story and I enjoyed reading through it and "experiencing" it, but on the other hand I know lots of other Disney fans won't be too crazy about the fact that this is just a retelling of the story dark ride, not to mention that since I'm not a huge Sleeping Beauty fan, I wouldn't be as excited for this. But, it's a nice classic attraction with not much to complain about, though I'm not so sure that this will bring in the kind of guests Disney will want (those looking for a cool new experience/those not in love with Princesses/cartoons) after putting more money into Fantasyland. Overall though, despite the logistics and realism, this is a great ride that could stand the test of time and that many Disney fans will adore.
@DisneyPrincess1993
Interesting concept DP! First of all, the presentation I found really cool right away! The beginning site designed by the villains is a fun touch (Though I would have loved to see that carried through the entire site). And the story itself is clever, a ride dedicated to the villains many fans have hoped for we still wait on. It feels a bit odd to me though that the ride's story is based on other rides, which could make it weird if you go to that ride first for example, but it's not a huge problem, just my opinion. Also the name sounds more like a land or pavilion rather than ride, perhaps it would be better to simply just call it "Villains Takeover"?
The location is interesting. I kind of have the same problem as with @tcool in that Fantasyland just got a major expansion so I don't really think it is deserving of another new attraction. Also, the fact that it's rather far away works as a benefit and a problem. It is nice because it adds to the feeling of dark, and gloomy, secluded from the happy Fantasyland, but also a bit of a potential issue in that it is a bit of a walk away from the rest of FL, will require a lot of backstage work, and will create one heck of a bottleneck in that tiny Gaston's area.
The queue has a lot of detail, and I think that type of thrilling ride without it being too intense technology used in WDW is exactly what is needed. The ride story is pretty well done, though the second half confuses me. I don't really understand the battle scene, and the situation with a comedic result feels a bit odd and not like the satisfying result of the epic battle that has been built up the whole time. Overall, there are a few flaws in the design of this attraction for me, but I think you did another great job on this!
My rankings:
1. @TheOriginalTiki
2. @orlando678-
3. @DisneyPrincess1993
4. @tcool
@IDInstitute's Concept Creation Challenge Reviews
Wow...we're already at the final four! And, I must say, this is probably one of the closest challenges yet...However, at least one of you will be eliminated. Without much more wait, let's jump right in to the projects....
@TheOriginalTiki
Nice job Tiki! First of all, I don't really agree with this statement that Epcot is the perfect place for a coaster. Like, not really at all
Of course this is just me, but Epcot never really felt like to me the place for big thrills and roller coasters, especially WS. Also, the fact that it's a generic wild mouse coaster I'm not too crazy about, especially because we already have one in WDW (Primeval Whirl).I like how you included the short! I love those little shorts cartoons, and I think that could make for a nice story. However, you taking out the cartoon characters was an important touch. I also really liked the Big Ben that will be built in WS...It could be really cool and add to the skyline like you said! The only thing though (which ties back to my earlier problem) is that it seems too thrilling for WS.
The story is good and for sure inspired. If I had a soundbite or video of Dan celebrating Blue Collar workers I would love to play it right now
Though it just feels a bit odd to dedicate a whole, massive attraction to that, as to me it doesn't really do a full job of representing the UK (Though, I can't say Frozen does to Norway either, so what do I know ). Anyways, I don't have too much else to complain about the rest of the attraction, you took your time and created a fun, detailed experience. Overall, this seems like a REALLY cool and fun experience that I would love, the only issue for me is how much it really "clicks" with the rest of WS.@orlando678-
Great work orlando678-! I really like this theme you went with, it seems like a great attraction to compliment the rest of Asia.
I really like the facade and queue here. It sets up the story well and really fits with the theme. I also love how you created a backstory that felt authentic and immersive into the culture. It would have maybe been cooler though if it was an actual legend in Chinese culture to really tie into the representation more, but there's nothing really wrong with this.
I noticed how this is also a roller coaster. I feel like DAK needs more family dark rides, especially considering there's already a roller coaster and thrilling rapids ride in the surrounding area. Also, as I read through this story, I feel like the location given might not actually have enough room for this ride as it seems to require a lot of space. Despite that, I think this is a really cool ride and story presented! Overall, great job creating a very thrilling attraction for WDW's DAK, which I can already feel drawing in lots of crowds and further creating DAK as one of the best parks in Orlando!
@tcool
Nice work tcool! This attraction seems really immersive, and the level of detail sounds to be on par with the rest of New Fantasyland which is really what MK needs. Simply even in things like the cartoony trees sounds to be really detailed yet fictitious enough to make you feel like you are in a Fantasy village. I do question location though. First of all, I really don't think there's enough room for a dark ride where you mentioned. It's a very tight space, and I feel like it would only add to the feeling of a concrete jungle in the Castle Courtyard area. Second (and this refers to location of an attraction in general), Fantasyland just had a complete refurbishment. I think Fantasyland is the last place in MK that needs/deserves a new attraction, other than major refurbishments on things like Peter Pan.
I have to be honest now, I actually have never seen Sleeping Beauty
It kind of works as a pro and con though, I think you did a great job retelling the story and I enjoyed reading through it and "experiencing" it, but on the other hand I know lots of other Disney fans won't be too crazy about the fact that this is just a retelling of the story dark ride, not to mention that since I'm not a huge Sleeping Beauty fan, I wouldn't be as excited for this. But, it's a nice classic attraction with not much to complain about, though I'm not so sure that this will bring in the kind of guests Disney will want (those looking for a cool new experience/those not in love with Princesses/cartoons) after putting more money into Fantasyland. Overall though, despite the logistics and realism, this is a great ride that could stand the test of time and that many Disney fans will adore.@DisneyPrincess1993
Interesting concept DP! First of all, the presentation I found really cool right away! The beginning site designed by the villains is a fun touch (Though I would have loved to see that carried through the entire site). And the story itself is clever, a ride dedicated to the villains many fans have hoped for we still wait on. It feels a bit odd to me though that the ride's story is based on other rides, which could make it weird if you go to that ride first for example, but it's not a huge problem, just my opinion. Also the name sounds more like a land or pavilion rather than ride, perhaps it would be better to simply just call it "Villains Takeover"?
The location is interesting. I kind of have the same problem as with @tcool in that Fantasyland just got a major expansion so I don't really think it is deserving of another new attraction. Also, the fact that it's rather far away works as a benefit and a problem. It is nice because it adds to the feeling of dark, and gloomy, secluded from the happy Fantasyland, but also a bit of a potential issue in that it is a bit of a walk away from the rest of FL, will require a lot of backstage work, and will create one heck of a bottleneck in that tiny Gaston's area.
The queue has a lot of detail, and I think that type of thrilling ride without it being too intense technology used in WDW is exactly what is needed. The ride story is pretty well done, though the second half confuses me. I don't really understand the battle scene, and the situation with a comedic result feels a bit odd and not like the satisfying result of the epic battle that has been built up the whole time. Overall, there are a few flaws in the design of this attraction for me, but I think you did another great job on this!
My rankings:
1. @TheOriginalTiki
2. @orlando678-
3. @DisneyPrincess1993
4. @tcool
Session 9: Countdown to Elimination
Concept Creation Challenge Results
Combing the results for @spacemt354 and my reviews, these are the final standings:
1. @orlando678-
2. @TheOriginalTiki
3. @DisneyPrincess1993
4. @tcool
For winning this Concept Creation challenge, @orlando678- will have an advantage over the rest of the contestants going into the finale.
In addition, the biggest question seemed to be how many contestants there would be in the finals...There will in fact be 3 of the top Imagineers fighting for the title of the winner of the Creator Games, as well as the silver and bronze prizes. Which means @tcool, unfortunately, you have been eliminated from the games. It was a pleasure to have you, and while there isn't too much time left, if you'd like to work on the Omega challenge that would be great!
And this hereby closes th 9th session of The Creator Games....Your final session will come this evening, so get ready everyone
Concept Creation Challenge Results
Combing the results for @spacemt354 and my reviews, these are the final standings:
1. @orlando678-
2. @TheOriginalTiki
3. @DisneyPrincess1993
4. @tcool
For winning this Concept Creation challenge, @orlando678- will have an advantage over the rest of the contestants going into the finale.
In addition, the biggest question seemed to be how many contestants there would be in the finals...There will in fact be 3 of the top Imagineers fighting for the title of the winner of the Creator Games, as well as the silver and bronze prizes. Which means @tcool, unfortunately, you have been eliminated from the games. It was a pleasure to have you, and while there isn't too much time left, if you'd like to work on the Omega challenge that would be great!
And this hereby closes th 9th session of The Creator Games....Your final session will come this evening, so get ready everyone
Session Opening
Session 10: The Final Challenge
Session 10: The Final Challenge
Over the course of almost 2 months now, out of the 16 contestants, you three have proven your skills, demonstrated your creativity, and earned your spots here in the final round.
@orlando678- - Fresh off your Session 9 victory, you're riding strong into the final challenge. You were one of the newcomers to Imagineering competitions. While many viewed you as an underdog much of this game you demonstrated just how talented you are over the last few rounds. You saved your best for last and you're going to need your best if you want come out as the victor.
@TheOriginalTiki - Your imagination has been front and center in this competition, as you've come up with some of the most unique and creative concepts we've seen on these boards. You mastered many of the strategic twists in this game, helping get you to this point. But going up against stiff competition and a daunting challenge, you're going to have to bring your all if you want to win.
@DisneyPrincess1993 - As another newcomer to imagineering competitions you stormed out of the gate displaying your creative skills and you've shown how talented you can be. You won 6 Concept Creation Challenge wins throughout the season, with a 5-win streak in the middle of the comp, way more than anyone else. The question is though, can you bring your best one more time in order to pull out the win?
The Final Challenge is coming tonight...and while all of you are worthy of being the winner of The Creator Games, we can only have one champion.
Best of luck to you all.
RMichael21
Well-Known Member
I know that I'm not supposed to talk in here, but I hope everyone in your area is alright.
I'm sorry about that, that's really unfortunate, I hope everything is alright?
It's supposed to be due Tuesday the 30th. It is longer than 4-5 days and is individual, but there's an element of it in the middle that is online. So, maybe wait for now until the challenge is posted (won't be long), and then I'll see how I can help from there.
Again, really sorry about that!
Session 10: The Final Challenge
Concept Creation Challenge
In the final challenge of The Creator Games, the three of you will each be assigned a different Walt Disney World theme park.
The objective is to design 10 new additions to your theme park. These additions can be anything from new attractions, to refurbished attractions, to shops, to dining options, even to pin stations. You won't be given a budget, but it will be good to have a nice balance. In addition, you can present all of these 10 additions individually or all together at the end. When you look back, The Creator Games challenged you on all the different aspects that go into a theme park and resort. The Final Challenge is a way to connect the dots and apply the creativity you've cultivated throughout the competition into an all new challenge.
As stated before, all prior winning projects are part of WDW, including last Session's Kow Siwang - The Red Dragon attraction.
Because @orlando678- won the Session 9 Concept Creation Challenge, he will get first pick of which theme park he would like to use. Then @TheOriginalTiki and finally @DisneyPrincess1993. Choose carefully. Please make your selections below ASAP so everyone can get to work. Once one park is chosen, it may not be picked by another contestant.
How will this challenge be judged? It's a bit different this time... We will have a roundtable of guest judges this challenge, including...
@IDInstitute
@spacemt354
@sshindel
@MonorailRed
@marni1971
@wdwmagic
We will act as the BoD in a way...Each judge will read each of your ten additions, and will either "Green-Light" it, or "Veto" it. Your goal- get as many Green Lighted projects as you can. As there are five of us, the maximum number you can get is 50. The contestant with the most wins the games.
Lastly, in order to bring a unifying element to the final challenge, we have contacted all the past contestants of The Creator Games, and asked them if they would like to participate one last time.
What will their roles be? Well, this is our version of a "jury". They won't vote for a winner, but will instead help you with your project. Each past contestant who wants will make a list of 1-3 who they would like to advise in this challenge. At the midway point of the challenge (Friday the 26th), each of the three finalists will then be given 2-3 assistants to help in their projects for only 24 hours. These assistants can give creative feedback, help organize your project, and so on. While the help will be available, this will still be your project, so final decisions on the project should come from the finalists.
These advisors:
@2001DISNEYLIFE
@JokersWild
@ctxak98
@MCParradox
@Matt7187
@RMichael21
@tcool
Challenge is due Tuesday June 30th at 7PM EST. There are no restrictions. Results will be announced July 1st, the same day as sign-ups for the Sorcerer's Apprentice!
Good Luck everyone!
Concept Creation Challenge
In the final challenge of The Creator Games, the three of you will each be assigned a different Walt Disney World theme park.
The objective is to design 10 new additions to your theme park. These additions can be anything from new attractions, to refurbished attractions, to shops, to dining options, even to pin stations. You won't be given a budget, but it will be good to have a nice balance. In addition, you can present all of these 10 additions individually or all together at the end. When you look back, The Creator Games challenged you on all the different aspects that go into a theme park and resort. The Final Challenge is a way to connect the dots and apply the creativity you've cultivated throughout the competition into an all new challenge.
As stated before, all prior winning projects are part of WDW, including last Session's Kow Siwang - The Red Dragon attraction.
Because @orlando678- won the Session 9 Concept Creation Challenge, he will get first pick of which theme park he would like to use. Then @TheOriginalTiki and finally @DisneyPrincess1993. Choose carefully. Please make your selections below ASAP so everyone can get to work. Once one park is chosen, it may not be picked by another contestant.
How will this challenge be judged? It's a bit different this time... We will have a roundtable of guest judges this challenge, including...
@IDInstitute
@spacemt354
@sshindel
@MonorailRed
@marni1971
@wdwmagic
We will act as the BoD in a way...Each judge will read each of your ten additions, and will either "Green-Light" it, or "Veto" it. Your goal- get as many Green Lighted projects as you can. As there are five of us, the maximum number you can get is 50. The contestant with the most wins the games.
Lastly, in order to bring a unifying element to the final challenge, we have contacted all the past contestants of The Creator Games, and asked them if they would like to participate one last time.
What will their roles be? Well, this is our version of a "jury". They won't vote for a winner, but will instead help you with your project. Each past contestant who wants will make a list of 1-3 who they would like to advise in this challenge. At the midway point of the challenge (Friday the 26th), each of the three finalists will then be given 2-3 assistants to help in their projects for only 24 hours. These assistants can give creative feedback, help organize your project, and so on. While the help will be available, this will still be your project, so final decisions on the project should come from the finalists.
These advisors:
@2001DISNEYLIFE
@JokersWild
@ctxak98
@MCParradox
@Matt7187
@RMichael21
@tcool
Challenge is due Tuesday June 30th at 7PM EST. There are no restrictions. Results will be announced July 1st, the same day as sign-ups for the Sorcerer's Apprentice!
Good Luck everyone!
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TheOriginalTiki
Well-Known Member
orlando678-
Well-Known Member
This is very important for my choice, so can you add new lands?
spacemt354
Chili's
Yes you can. But just remember you need 10 new additions - and it would be good to have a balance in your proposal (ie 10 E-tickets while *cool* probably wouldn't all get approved)
Edit: Also keep in mind feasibility when adding new lands. Make sure there is space for them in your design, as that will also impact approval potential. This goes for all three contestants.