Imagine that.Fire Mountain would be great, but SM needs to be gutted and rebuilt. Not re-rethemed, just rebuild the existing track with actual smooth steel.
If I recapture the present situation in FL, I come to the conclusion that some plussing is necessary but an entire expansion would be overkill as long as they did not expand AL and redo TL.
BTMR - Add the effects from DL and it is perfect.
SM- Everything OK.
CBJ - I hate them but they are a classic and I know that they still attract many Americans.
Frontierland Shooting Arcade - Nice little classic, we were invited several times by CM to shoot for free,
TSI- Definitely needs a plussing or redo but I still enjoy the caves and it is still a retreat on very crowded days.
Diamond Horseshoe - Don't know anything about it.
I wouldn't call the addition of another attraction an "expansion" but if they add one more attraction in the next years that would be nice though not exactly necessary.
GIVE ME FIRE MOUNTAIN INSTEAD!
It could never be an island with what you describe.DL's version of SM is vastly superior to our version at MK. Not even close.
For TSI, with how crowded the parks are, I'd like to see them utilize that land more. Stick with the Americana themes of Liberty Square and Frontierland, as well as playing off of the Rivers of America. TSI is split into two portions, right? The lower portion (smaller) and the upper portion (much larger). Theme the lower portion to something similiar to New Orleans Square. If you don't want to take directly from NOS in DL, then what about maybe an 1800s St. Louis? Then, the upper portion could be themed to the Pacific Northwest. Stick with the Rivers of America theme, but essentially following along with the Lewis and Clark Expedition. The lower portion, mimicking a town, could house restaurants, shops, and maybe a dark/boat ride. The upper portion, could hold another 2-3 attractions, two small and one big, to help eat up and disperse crowds.
Any expansion that happens at MK now would just result in more people coming to MK making any capacity increases moot if not worse. It is a dynamic known as induced demand.I see I'm coming to this thread late, but my two cents were rubbing together. Great, MK needs to expand. It has to it is the Flagship of WDW-Florida. The resorts on and off property have expanded to the point that there is no real down time anymore at the parks. Even in winter in Florida you get the Great White Pasty migration to Positive Temperature numbers. It has the land to be able to expand. Adventureland should update and expand. Add more rides, bring back old charter themeing. Ducktales, Tarzan, Keep SFRTH. Expand Frontierland to include more of america. Keep RoA, add St Lewis, New Orleans, Pacific Northwest, Pre-fire Frisco or Seattle. around the river, Add 3 more etickets to each area. Expand Tomorowland, Pick the year the Movie was in, and go for it. Let the imagineers loose on tomorrow, hover craft rides, Robot waiter restaurants. As things sit now, one park needs to take the lead to be the real time machine for tomorrow, and the other needs to take all the Disney Themed tomorrow products and build a ride and merchandise. MK vs EPCOT. I know everyone who running the Dis is thinking $$$$ capitol investments bean counting, but look Pandora has increased DAK popularity. DHS popularity will increase for the next two years with two lands opening. Disney, just plan to have the licence to print money, everyone's coming. Start now.
Oh and the 300-500 Million for the 50th. With all the bunting, and 50 year themeing to be added, thats where that money will go. Just look at DLR 60th theming. Unless they are purposing the 60th bunting to 50th?
Ok off soap box 2 cents spent.
Imagine that.
That's a lot of money. Have they ever considered, I don't know, building an original ride or two, instead of gutting and replacing stuff in a park that's busting at the seams every time I'm there?
It could never be an island with what you describe.
It should always be an island.
Maybe they'll realize that better rides generate more praise?They've just spent a fortune on extending the land. One that hasn't generated the universal praise they aimed for. Do you really think they'd spend another fortune on infrastructure and engineering so they can spend yet another fortune on a ride?
To see this principle in action, just watch what happens when Star Wars Land opens at Disneyland.Any expansion that happens at MK now would just result in more people coming to MK making any capacity increases moot if not worse. It is a dynamic known as induced demand.
What they need to do is what they are doing which is expanding the other parks to pull guests away from MK and making the attractions at MK run more efficiently.
The rub is they should have done this a decade ago to avoid this problem.
Any expansion that happens at MK now would just result in more people coming to MK making any capacity increases moot if not worse. It is a dynamic known as induced demand.
What they need to do is what they are doing which is expanding the other parks to pull guests away from MK and making the attractions at MK run more efficiently.
The rub is they should have done this a decade ago to avoid this problem.
Maybe they'll realize that better rides generate more praise?
Ignorance vs understanding.
New Fantasyland was intended as a necessary capacity boost with an initial proposal that included one new ride. It was improved to include an additional solid D ticket with C ticket capacity. They were then disappointed that it didn't increase attendance when that was never the intention.If that were the case then what was proposed for getting approval for WDW overall would be most ambitious stuff ever... it is not.
There is no way that's true.Pretty sure that I was the biggest critic of the change from FLE 1.0 to 2.0 on these boards.
There is no way that's true.
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