Express Transportation starting Dec 7th

Monorail_Orange

Well-Known Member
It is an outright LIE and fabrication you need any advance planning to visit Walt Disney World. But the "WDW sucks and is evil" mob on here gotta have an agenda to push.
To borrow from Obi Wan, what you say is true, from a certain point of view. However, if you want to be guaranteed certain "premium" experiences: i.e. headliner attractions, table service meals, dinner shows, you must pre-plan at WDW. However, you are absolutely correct that you can go and experience whatever's left over, or wait in the stand-by lines for the headliners.
 

Monorail_Orange

Well-Known Member
Yet again more lies. As of 8:10pm, I am able to reserve all three mountains at Magic Kingdom for tomorrow, as well as Pan, Mansion, Pirates, Jungle etc. Over at Epcot, both Soarin and Test Track are options, Rock 'n' Roller Coaster and Test Track are open, and my word even at DAK one can reserve Everest and Safari!!

Dinner for two not possible you say? Wrong again!! There are 75 restaurants on property with openings for two people, even popular character dining experiences like 1900 Park Faire, Chef Mickeys, and even Crystal Palace. I was even able to find a spot for both Hoop Dee Doo Revue AND Spirit of Aloha! :eek: So either be a better liar or have some better evidence to back your points up
Do show me where I stated "dinner for two." Let me help you, I didn't. It becomes far more difficult when you have to be an adult and coordinate for a travel party of 6+. Also, explain to me how you're able to book both Soarin' snd Test Track on your original set of 3 FPs, and the fact that you can't put Frozen Ever After in that mix proves my point. Also, i notice your lack of TSMM at the Studios, because that one's gone too. I gave you credit because you were correct that you can do some things without the advanced planning, however, you will miss out on certain experiences if you do things that way. That is a fact. If you want to reject reality and substitue your own, then go for it. But don't try to sell me your brand of crazy. We're all stocked up here.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
It is an outright LIE and fabrication you need any advance planning to visit Walt Disney World. But the "WDW sucks and is evil" mob on here gotta have an agenda to push.

Unless you actually want to eat at a particular restaurant you heard about... or be left only to get the scraps left by those who did plan.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Yet again more lies. As of 8:10pm, I am able to reserve all three mountains at Magic Kingdom for tomorrow, as well as Pan, Mansion, Pirates, Jungle etc. Over at Epcot, both Soarin and Test Track are options, Rock 'n' Roller Coaster and Test Track are open, and my word even at DAK one can reserve Everest and Safari!!

Dinner for two not possible you say? Wrong again!! There are 75 restaurants on property with openings for two people, even popular character dining experiences like 1900 Park Faire, Chef Mickeys, and even Crystal Palace. I was even able to find a spot for both Hoop Dee Doo Revue AND Spirit of Aloha! :eek: So either be a better liar or have some better evidence to back your points up

Wait... you mean mid week during the last weeks of summer... when many schools are already heading back to school (and hence crowd meters are at about 6/10) may be less crowded than most experiences?? You don't say...

And even at 6/10 there are only two table restaurants with availability for dinner for 4 before 7pm... most only have availability after 7... and in each park your options are limited to one or two.

So ya... things are limited if you didn't plan. People who just want food don't want to leave on a three hour adventure cross property to find an open table
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Just read that the Express Transportation option is being terminated.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, had to get that out of my system. A ridiculous offering that deserved to die in a conference room.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Wait... you mean mid week during the last weeks of summer... when many schools are already heading back to school (and hence crowd meters are at about 6/10) may be less crowded than most experiences?? You don't say...

And even at 6/10 there are only two table restaurants with availability for dinner for 4 before 7pm... most only have availability after 7... and in each park your options are limited to one or two.

So ya... things are limited if you didn't plan. People who just want food don't want to leave on a three hour adventure cross property to find an open table

I love how those who say "You can do anything at WDW without advance planning" always use a 1 or 2 person example. Try doing it for a family of 4, 5, or 6 and get back to us with all of the same top-tier offerings and dining options that are available on a day's notice.
 

seabreezept813

Well-Known Member
I love how those who say "You can do anything at WDW without advance planning" always use a 1 or 2 person example. Try doing it for a family of 4, 5, or 6 and get back to us with all of the same top-tier offerings and dining options that are available on a day's notice.

Ya this really has to be a case by case basis. At the very least, you need to educate yourself about the park. My stepdaughter went to MK once with her mom. They only went on Small World and Mermaid. Her mom had no clue what she was doing and she's never tried too hard to speak English. I would've helped her out before they went, but she wouldn't listen to me if it meant the difference between life or death. The only positive is my stepdaughter has been a few times and knew to temper her expectations. A day at MK without Splash or PPF is a travesty in my eyes..
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
I love how those who say "You can do anything at WDW without advance planning" always use a 1 or 2 person example. Try doing it for a family of 4, 5, or 6 and get back to us with all of the same top-tier offerings and dining options that are available on a day's notice.
What time would you like to go to O'Hana tonight? Will 8:00 p.m work for a family of 4?
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Monorail_Orange

Well-Known Member
I didn't try and book any of these, I just simply looked at the options so I could prove you wrong (and I did!!). But keep living a world of fantasy trying to think otherwise when I just flat out burnt your argument. The evidence speaks for itself buddy :cool:
Wow, you have got to be one of the most closed-minded people on here. Congratulations. I illustrated not only where your argument had limited merit because you qualified it on very specific circumstances, but also where it fell apart as to the more general approach. But go ahead and keep thinking you're right no matter what the evidence says, so you can keep burning my argument. Something tells me you're burning some particular plants to go along with it...
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drizgirl

Well-Known Member
We've never been forced to make detailed travel plans by Disney, you can still very much have a go with the flow vacation
No, nobody is required to make detailed advance plans. But if you are someone who looks forward to very specific experiences on their trip, then yes, you have to if you want to be sure to do them.

It's a completely different mindset if you live close by and can just catch a ride or dinner next week if it doesn't happen for you this time than it is if you come by air and won't be back for a long time.
 

drizgirl

Well-Known Member
Simple, don't do those experiences if taking 30 seconds out of your day 180 days in advance is so terrible. If you can't get that "special moment" suck it up and move on, life isn't fair.
It's no "life", it's a vacation. A vacation I spend a lot of money on. It's not a personality flaw to have certain things I really want to do. And you completely ignored my comment about your perspective as a frequent local visitor being different.
 

jakeman

Well-Known Member
It's no "life", it's a vacation. A vacation I spend a lot of money on. It's not a personality flaw to have certain things I really want to do. And you completely ignored my comment about your perspective as a frequent local visitor being different.
I'm not a local visitor. I have the same perspective. If I miss out on something, then so be it. It's not the end of the world. My vacation whether it be 3 days or 2 weeks doesn't center around 1 or 2 events.

It is a flaw to decry an entire system because you don't get what you want when you want it, which is essentially what you are doing. Saying that you want to be able to book whatever restaurant you want, whenever you want is a ridiculous bar to set for a vacation.

If I want to eat at a nice and popular restaurant in town, I make reservations in advance. I don't just show up expecting the entire establishment to bend to my will.
 

drizgirl

Well-Known Member
I'm not a local visitor. I have the same perspective. If I miss out on something, then so be it. It's not the end of the world. My vacation whether it be 3 days or 2 weeks doesn't center around 1 or 2 events.

It is a flaw to decry an entire system because you don't get what you want when you want it, which is essentially what you are doing.

If I want to eat at a nice and popular restaurant in town, I make reservations in advance. I don't just show up expecting the entire establishment to bend to my will.
That's great that it works for you. But it's a vacation. People are allowed to value different things differently.
 
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jakeman

Well-Known Member
That's great that it works for me. But it's a vacation. People are allowed to value different things differently.
There...now that the sarcastic response to your pithy value statement is out of the way...of course they are. However, if you set unrealistic expectations then you're going to be disappointed.

Expecting on demand reservations at every restaurant on property for the time and date you want them whenever you decide to book it is an unreasonable expectation. So, with all due respect, you value something that is not obtainable. When you expect something that is unobtainable your disappointment is not valid.

This isn't a defense of the current ADR setup at WDW. The whole system could use an overall and booking dates for all experiences should have the same window including announcing and booking special events.
 

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