Brian
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Money.Would never happen but I’d happily support an early show of Epcot Forever, even with the fireworks cut back, as a sort of warm up to Luminous. Why not two different shows each night in the WSL?
Money.Would never happen but I’d happily support an early show of Epcot Forever, even with the fireworks cut back, as a sort of warm up to Luminous. Why not two different shows each night in the WSL?
Definitely. The first version of EPCOT Forever, while not perfect by any means, did have some big 'wow' moments with the pyro kites. They didn't work often, but when they did they got the crowd buzzing. Harmonious just didn't do it for us, though we understand why some liked it.Did anyone else enjoy Epcot Forever more than HarmoniUS?
That in chorus moment is great, just wish it was louder, it sounds that good.I truly think SSE becoming the globe is the only homage they added last minute.
Everything else, like the hello from each country, seem to be remnants from previous unfinished or short lived IllumiNations shows pre-Harmonious.
Nobody has mentioned the absolute chills inducing moment when the narration says "voices echo back, in chorus" and the pavilions light up in call/response with the music.
Good. We don't need fireworks shows that run for two decades anymore.I'm not convinced this will be a long running show like illuminations was
They also can’t be wasting money designing some that last 2 years or lessGood. We don't need fireworks shows that run for two decades anymore.
The whole IP v. non-IP debate is mired in bad nomenclature -- it's all IP.
The two sides are better called:
- *pre-existing* IP (that has appeared in a movie, TV show, or some other context), and,
- *newly-created* IP.
Both have their pros and cons.
The *pre-existing* IP is being recontextualized for a new attraction. The recontextualization could be "shoe horned in" or "rammed down our throats." In this case, it's used simply because it's popular. It's a tangent to a story that doesn't fit. This can happen when your new show needs a certain theme, e.g., you want two people singing about how their friendship brings them joy and makes them a family.... and all you got is Friend In Me, which is oversued, or, Friend Like Me, which really isn't the message you want (since it's not about two people singing about the joy of their friendship).
On the other hand, it could be done quite well when the original context fits the new context. "I See the Light" fits very well for any context of a new, budding romance.
And so, it is the newly-created music that has a much better chance of getting across the theme and message one wants to convey. It can be tailored specifically for the context. BUT... it's brand new. And is the song itself... *good*? A new song hasn't had the chance to be tested with crowds. It could be wildly popular. It could be a dud.
And that's the advantage of the pre-existing IP... you already know it's popular. Put a bunch of popular songs in a show and you're much more likely to get a popular show.
As time has passed, Disney has amassed a pretty hefty 'Disney songbook' of hits that it didn't have 20, 30, or 40 years ago. People want the band on the stage to play their famous hits, not their new songs... that's why the came to their concert. And so it's what many people expect. And it's what management encourages for that sweet synergistic merchandising franchise.
Luminous was made with pre-existing and new music. And did some clever things like using only the lick from Into the Unknown, without any of its lyrics. It unfortunately overused the two 'friends songs.'
Anyhoo, I'll leave you all with a mind-blowing thought: Epcot Forever recontextualized the music from previous attractions, so, it rammed IP down our throats!!
They also can’t be wasting money designing some that last 2 years or less
Money.
EPCOT Unleashes two spectacular, previously unseen pyro effects in 'Luminous the Symphony of Us'
EPCOT Unleashes two spectacular, previously unseen pyro effects in 'Luminous the Symphony of Us'
EPCOT Unleashes two spectacular, previously unseen pyro effects in 'Luminous the Symphony of Us'www.wdwmagic.com
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