PlutoHasFleas
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Disney confirms 'Frozen' makeover coming to Epcot's Norway Pavilion
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Mouse Trap
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Good observation, it's rather neutral on the topic.
For the record I am welcoming the Frozen change. Fanboys, rip me up!
Mike S
Well-Known Member
I for one would be very happy if Maelstrom was simply getting an update that kept to the original idea of the ride like what was conceptualized and Frozen was getting a truly brand new attraction elsewhere in MK or DHS. @marni1971 posted this earlier. If only, if only...........
misterID
Well-Known Member
I've heard this lame argument for years. And it's the fact they lean heavily on MK for those millions and shut down half their resorts they can't fill.
Yes, people are still going to go, and yes, the other Disney parks (and UNI) are experiencing explosions in attendance while WDW stays the same, as TDO tap dances to a parasitic business theory to keep those numbers level without investment.
At worst, this response is the worst thing you can give TDO. Blaming the guests for actually caring enough to be upset about the park they love, enabling the worst aspects of TDO. You wouldn't be getting anything of significance in WDW had they not been forced to do it.
JEANYLASER
Well-Known Member
Can we see the concept art for Frozen the ride!
PlutoHasFleas
Active Member
This is the leg Disney will attempt to stand on:
http://time.com/2827339/frozen-tourism-norway/
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101776203
http://www.npr.org/2014/03/02/284742151/frozen-success-gives-norway-a-potential-tourism-boost
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jun/06/disney-frozen-boost-norwegian-tourism
https://www.yahoo.com/travel/film-tourism-and-the-frozen-phenomenon-frozens-90553256692.html
http://time.com/2827339/frozen-tourism-norway/
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101776203
http://www.npr.org/2014/03/02/284742151/frozen-success-gives-norway-a-potential-tourism-boost
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/jun/06/disney-frozen-boost-norwegian-tourism
https://www.yahoo.com/travel/film-tourism-and-the-frozen-phenomenon-frozens-90553256692.html
Mouse Trap
Well-Known Member
Am I blaming the guests? Or a insignificant portion of Disney fanatics on a Disney forum? Let's be 100% clear here, the people on Disney forums DO NOT represent the typical Disney guest.
As noted in a seperate thread, any non-Disney site reporting the news is receiving a whole different crop of feedback.
The average Disney guest seems to believe Maelstrom is totally dispensible and should go. A proper attraction is not hapening because most tourists have demonstrated content without seeing one.
JoshG73103
New Member
The report said the ride would be open by early 2016 (so give Disney their usual extension period given the extra time they usually take when it comes to opening new attractions), and we're probably looking at a mid-to-late 2016 opening. Sound like a healthy amount of time for a new ride to me.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
That was friggin' AWESOME.
rct247
Well-Known Member
I'm not sure about that either. The news has made it to CNN and the comments there show people sick of Frozen. Friends not even frequent visitors to the Disney parks in other states are posting on my Facebook about the news in similar fashion. "Aww, my family really liked that ride". or "Is that the ride where they say DISAPPEAR DISAPPER? Oh, I'm going to miss that."
I think the average first time guests or once in your lifers will not think anything of the ride or have a connection with it, but many guests who have been a few times even if they are not fanatics have some sort of connection that they will miss.
Mr. Peabody
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This could be construed as a reason to not change Maelstrom. Just sayin'.
flynnibus
Premium Member
...They're tourists.. what do they know...
You'd be better off to study how that innocent comic jab in Muppets3D rings quite true.. and how dangerous it is if you justify your own actions with that mentality.
Just because the general population is too ignorant to have the foresight to understand why a choice is a bad one doesn't make the choice a GOOD ONE
It's amazing how people are so quickly people forget or discount the philosophies that lead to Disney being different and it's success.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
This is the same thinking that produced cinematic gems like Batman & Robin.
Mouse Trap
Well-Known Member
Actually they wont, and there are hundreds of in-park surveys which confirm this.
JordanNite
Well-Known Member
The last decade or so has been poor by Disney, no one can walk away from it. Even with gallioth attractions like Toy Story, they done nothing more than a cheap shooter.
Until Igor and co leave, we'll continue to see a lack of investment. It's the way it goes. The current CEO doesn't do theme parks, he doesn't feel them. It's about the $$$, nothing else. But ultimately in the long run he is doing the theme park divison a lot of harm. Without investment, even the next CEO will take 5 or so years to begin putting into place upgrades, attractions, and in that time with stagnated parks the attendance will surely drop - unless new international guests keep coming for the first time from emerging markets like Brazil, etc.
Even now, they're only having growth rates of 2% annually a year .. if they invested they could get that into double figures.
If only the attendance would fall.
Until Igor and co leave, we'll continue to see a lack of investment. It's the way it goes. The current CEO doesn't do theme parks, he doesn't feel them. It's about the $$$, nothing else. But ultimately in the long run he is doing the theme park divison a lot of harm. Without investment, even the next CEO will take 5 or so years to begin putting into place upgrades, attractions, and in that time with stagnated parks the attendance will surely drop - unless new international guests keep coming for the first time from emerging markets like Brazil, etc.
Even now, they're only having growth rates of 2% annually a year .. if they invested they could get that into double figures.
If only the attendance would fall.
flynnibus
Premium Member
Don't hate on the Dale sweaters... they aren't cheap in Norway either but they are iconic and can last generations!
Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
You're right, she probably would be. But that doesn't mean I have to say I love this happening because of it.
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
They are indeed nice sweaters, and so are the other clothing items available in the store, I just don't have the money for them at this time.
Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
School system worked out just fine for me. Sadly, it doesn't seem to have worked out well for others around here. But that isn't the fault of the school system.
Mike S
Well-Known Member
Surveys made specifically to get a certain answer. I remember someone said yesterday they or someone with them took a survey on food in AK that would NOT let them say anything negative.