More Classy Behavior of Guests at Disney

JIMINYCR

Well-Known Member
Don't be so harsh. We don't know the entire story. It sounds bad on the wife's part but Ive known many in her situation with a drunk spouse who says he "doesn't do it all the time, wasn't bad, but he's getting help". She may be someone thats lived with the abuse for a long time, feels helpless to do something about it and has little options to control him. The Cheerleading daughter surely is going to be embarrassed by the attention given to the story and is another person in a helpless situation.
 

rob0519

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I suggested a solution for park drinking and it could be implemented at resorts as well. I'm not sure how you stop people from bringing their own alcohol, but if it's discovered, it should be dealt with accordingly. I'm a big believer in privacy and respecting other people, but if your right to bring alcohol starts affecting me and my family, we have a problem.

Alcohol is a huge money maker for Disney and it's a product that is apparently in high demand. The MK managed to stay alcohol free for decades, but eventually management caved in on that as well. If there is one thing people here on the forums know. Disney has never met a profit that it didn't like as long as that profit doesn't result in litigation against them.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Alcohol is a huge money maker for Disney and it's a product that is apparently in high demand. The MK managed to stay alcohol free for decades, but eventually management caved in on that as well. If there is one thing people here on the forums know. Disney has never met a profit that it didn't like as long as that profit doesn't result in litigation against them.
I never said it wasn't a profit driver...it is and that's why it won't go away.

My argument is that a strip club or casino in the Magic Kingdom would be money makers too. Doesn't mean it belongs there.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Different people have different tolerances. I'm happy to let people enjoy themselves until their enjoyment infringes on mine. At that point, call a CM and let management manage the issue.
Eh, that only works if the person is not already out of control. I've seen them first hand. Your best bet is to go quickly in the other direction and report it, but see, then you kind of get inconvenienced at a park that's already on edge because it's too crowded.

We don't need an accelerant like alcohol to get people more irritable and obnoxious.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Honestly, I think you're trying to swat a fly with a sledge hammer. I'll leave it at that.

I have a problem with penalizing the majority for the abuses of a small minority. By all means deal firmly and consistently with any guest creating a disturbance (whether drunk or sober). But your approach is like banning all cars from the road because some drivers speed.
I rule with an iron fist, what can I say?

Seriously, I think it's only a sledgehammer if you're talking about the moderate drinkers who can handle their alcohol. I view even the few isolated incidents of public intoxication as extremely serious at a Disney park. What is no big deal at a bar at 2am in a major city is a huge deal at 10pm during fireworks at a family park. It's unacceptable and can't happen.

To me, you have to make these cases happen 0 times. It will still happen with rule breakers, but allowing the alcohol in the first place just invites the abuse. I've seen it so many times, particularly at EPCOT. It's not OK for kids and families to have to avoid drunken idiots "drinking around the world" and being obnoxious to the point it impacts others. The problem with the behavior is that it's too confined of a space and you can't really avoid it at times, especially if it's during a show.

I just don't like it and I'm not a conservative person. I think drugs should be legalized (all drugs) but only in the privacy of your own home. When you're in public or even more specifically on private property like Disney, the rules are stricter.

It's just not kid friendly and has no place at Disney.
 

Dead2009

Horror Movie Guru
I'm also in favor of technology solving the problem. Every guest who wants alcohol must buy a nominally priced wristband which is scanned each time you order a drink. After a predetermined amount, you're cut off. I know people could still buy for you, but I think it would cut down on abuse.

So you're saying EVERYBODY should be cut off after a certain amount of drinks even if they're still coherent and in control of their own situation? That's taking it a little too extreme. What's next, designing a Magic Band that tells you you've smoked too many cigarettes or you've picked up your phone too many times in the park?
 

Dead2009

Horror Movie Guru
I rule with an iron fist, what can I say?

Seriously, I think it's only a sledgehammer if you're talking about the moderate drinkers who can handle their alcohol. I view even the few isolated incidents of public intoxication as extremely serious at a Disney park. What is no big deal at a bar at 2am in a major city is a huge deal at 10pm during fireworks at a family park. It's unacceptable and can't happen.

To me, you have to make these cases happen 0 times. It will still happen with rule breakers, but allowing the alcohol in the first place just invites the abuse. I've seen it so many times, particularly at EPCOT. It's not OK for kids and families to have to avoid drunken idiots "drinking around the world" and being obnoxious to the point it impacts others. The problem with the behavior is that it's too confined of a space and you can't really avoid it at times, especially if it's during a show.

I just don't like it and I'm not a conservative person. I think drugs should be legalized (all drugs) but only in the privacy of your own home. When you're in public or even more specifically on private property like Disney, the rules are stricter.

It's just not kid friendly and has no place at Disney.

Best to put Disney inside a bubble then so NOTHING can get out of hand.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Remember, Disney spent millions on a fence, media spin, and lawyers because a ONCE IN A LIFETIME incident that will never happen again unfortunately happen to a kid when he got too close to the water at night and an alligator got him.

You have another stupid incident when it's determined the guest had one too many, you're going to see a similar reaction. I just think Disney shouldn't even accept the liability. They can make up the lost revenue in countless ways. It may still happen, but then they can say it was against their rules to even have alcohol in our family friendly parks.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
So you're saying EVERYBODY should be cut off after a certain amount of drinks even if they're still coherent and in control of their own situation? That's taking it a little too extreme. What's next, designing a Magic Band that tells you you've smoked too many cigarettes or you've picked up your phone too many times in the park?
Well, smoking is essentially prohibited in most parts of the park, so yeah, I kind of like that idea if it could be implemented, Smoking is a disgusting habit that impacts the others around, sometimes even in designated areas.

The phone thing...man, people can be annoying with phones. I wouldn't hate banning those too, but I think that might be a little extreme. I'd like to be able to throw people out the first time they let their phone ring or screen glow during a dark ride or stage show.

I think there shouldn't be alcohol at Disney Parks, so with my ultimate solution, there would be no "cutting off" because there would be no alcohol.
 

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