News New Gondola Transportation - Disney Skyliner -

[marni1971]

Let me make sure I am understanding correctly:
So are you saying guests exiting the gondola will have already gone through security/bag screening and can go directly to the turnstiles?

If not, and those guests do have to go through security, I could see it being done like this:
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I envisage the gondolas to be within the sterile zone, as the monorails will be.

 

[P_Radden]

I envisage the gondolas to be within the sterile zone, as the monorails will be.

This is very interesting.. But I wonder about about DHS gondola station as It is well beyond the current security area...

Also this would mean security check points at every gondola/monorail station on ramp or entry side, but direct guest departure to park turnstiles.. So I wonder if they will have specific routes for those guests to bypass the security checkpoints at Epcot and MK

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Connecting resorts and parks this way makes it that much easier to define the "theme park areas" ... I believe this is now how we will see resorts grouped once the Value/Moderate/Deluxe tiered system goes away in the near future.

Will they all be considered Deluxe resorts? With Deluxe resort prices?

 

[Creathir]

I envisage the gondolas to be within the sterile zone, as the monorails will be.

100% agree.

Build it out that way instead of adapting after the fact.

Also allows for gondolas to travel over secure zones without risk of someone dropping something into the secure zone.

Also, in general, the gondolas are a much more soft target than the monorails or other transportation options.

A single explosion in a gondola takes out the entire haul line, potentially killing/injuring hundreds of people as they fall.

These things will have to be behind security screening.

 

[P_Radden]

The one you extended is security and ticket booths, the one to the right is the turnstile. If they decide to push security out to the resorts for the gondola and boats they could move the walkup security to where circled in blue and then that would open up more room for turnstiles.

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I envisage the gondolas to be within the sterile zone, as the monorails will be.

Okay, sorry for the confusion (no coffee today :/ ) I understand the plan now. Dan, what do you think about this concept?

 

[MCast]

Okay, sorry for the confusion (no coffee today :/ ) I understand the plan now. Dan, what do you think about this concept?
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I personally have a hard time believing that the ferry will be drop people off beyond the IG security checkpoint. That would effectively mean there would need to be security checkpoints at the BW, Y&BC, S&D, and DHS' ferry launches.

 

[truecoat]

100% agree.

Build it out that way instead of adapting after the fact.

Also allows for gondolas to travel over secure zones without risk of someone dropping something into the secure zone.

Also, in general, the gondolas are a much more soft target than the monorails or other transportation options.

A single explosion in a gondola takes out the entire haul line, potentially killing/injuring hundreds of people as they fall.

These things will have to be behind security screening.

No, there are cable brakes to stop all the cars from falling. Worst case, a few would fall and only if the cable was severed.

 

[lazyboy97o]

100% agree.

Build it out that way instead of adapting after the fact.

Also allows for gondolas to travel over secure zones without risk of someone dropping something into the secure zone.

Also, in general, the gondolas are a much more soft target than the monorails or other transportation options.

A single explosion in a gondola takes out the entire haul line, potentially killing/injuring hundreds of people as they fall.

These things will have to be behind security screening.

The secure zones can't stop an armed drone.

 

[Creathir]

No, there are cable brakes to stop all the cars from falling. Worst case, a few would fall and only if the cable was severed.

If that cable is severed, there are going to be a lot of folks hurt.

I believe the brakes prevent slide back to prevent them from slamming back into the station.

If the line holding the weight is severed in some fashion, the gondolas will fall.

 

[bhg469]

Well i decided to stop by in the middle of a dark conversation.... Nothing could be worse than the burger I tried to eat at electric umbrella last week. Got lucky and had free admission to the parks from a friend and decided to sort of take a peak how this might look in the park and it seems interesting. I really have my doubts that this will look nice. I just dont see how they can make the towers and cables look like they fit anywhere.

 

[Creathir]

I don't think a bomb would be powerful enough to Destroy the cable though, it might cause significant damage to the inside of the Gondola, but probably minor damage to the cable.

That is true. It likely would just damage the gondola itself, it really depends on what was used.

Whatever the case, putting them behind the security screen seems like the most prudent thing to do.

 

[P_Radden]

When discussing the next phase of the transportation system overhaul, we have tossed around the concept of connecting the western resorts and AK to the center of WDW via some sort or rail system (automated?). This system would have to be elevated in some areas (mainly around World Drive interchange) so this would explain the height balloons seen at Fantasia Gardens. Additionally, this rail system would have to connect via a transfer center to Epcot and DHS. I see this all potentially happening near the Boardwalk "v" of the gondola.

Here is a new concept map fresh out of MS paint (5th grade computer skills FTW) explaining these ideas:

• Some sort of rail system with CSR possibly having a loop.
• The transfer station could feature an express Friendship Boat dock to service EPCOT/DHS
• This system would link AK to AKL
• Other stops would be Blizzard Beach and an All Star Resorts station

 

[The real rescueranger]

When discussing the next phase of the transportation system overhaul, we have tossed around the concept of connecting the western resorts and AK to the center of WDW via some sort or rail system (automated?). This system would have to be elevated in some areas (mainly around World Drive interchange) so this would explain the height balloons seen at Fantasia Gardens. Additionally, this rail system would have to connect via a transfer center to Epcot and DHS. I see this all potentially happening near the Boardwalk "v" of the gondola.

Here is a new concept map fresh out of MS paint (5th grade computer skills FTW) explaining these ideas:
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• Some sort of rail system with CBR possibly having a loop.
• The transfer station could feature an express Friendship Boat dock to service EPCOT/DHS
• This system would link AK to AKL
• Other stops would be Blizzard Beach and an All Star Resorts station

You mean CSR not CBR right?

 

[MisterPenguin]

When discussing the next phase of the transportation system overhaul, we have tossed around the concept of connecting the western resorts and AK to the center of WDW via some sort or rail system (automated?). This system would have to be elevated in some areas (mainly around World Drive interchange) so this would explain the height balloons seen at Fantasia Gardens. Additionally, this rail system would have to connect via a transfer center to Epcot and DHS. I see this all potentially happening near the Boardwalk "v" of the gondola.

Here is a new concept map fresh out of MS paint (5th grade computer skills FTW) explaining these ideas:
View attachment 192138

• Some sort of rail system with CSR possibly having a loop.
• The transfer station could feature an express Friendship Boat dock to service EPCOT/DHS
• This system would link AK to AKL
• Other stops would be Blizzard Beach and an All Star Resorts station

The line of sight balloons were for a possible Swolphin tower there. If they were for an elevated train, they would have had line of sight balloons along the entire route of whatever new system this may be.

 

[jt04]

When discussing the next phase of the transportation system overhaul, we have tossed around the concept of connecting the western resorts and AK to the center of WDW via some sort or rail system (automated?). This system would have to be elevated in some areas (mainly around World Drive interchange) so this would explain the height balloons seen at Fantasia Gardens. Additionally, this rail system would have to connect via a transfer center to Epcot and DHS. I see this all potentially happening near the Boardwalk "v" of the gondola.

Here is a new concept map fresh out of MS paint (5th grade computer skills FTW) explaining these ideas:
View attachment 192138

• Some sort of rail system with CSR possibly having a loop.
• The transfer station could feature an express Friendship Boat dock to service EPCOT/DHS
• This system would link AK to AKL
• Other stops would be Blizzard Beach and an All Star Resorts station

You could add a station for your light rail near RnRC. No need to access the long loop to dhs then on the gondola.

I talked about light rail to dak as you depict many years ago. Very efficient, safe and clean.

 

[truecoat]

If that cable is severed, there are going to be a lot of folks hurt.

I believe the brakes prevent slide back to prevent them from slamming back into the station.

If the line holding the weight is severed in some fashion, the gondolas will fall.

Again, there are brakes on the supports so only the cars on a severed cable area would fall not the whole line.

 

[flynnibus]

man... agumented reality has to be so cool for construction. Screw height balloons.. imagine using AR right in the park through a looking glass.

 

[NormC]

If that cable is severed, there are going to be a lot of folks hurt.

I believe the brakes prevent slide back to prevent them from slamming back into the station.

If the line holding the weight is severed in some fashion, the gondolas will fall.

Only the gondolas between the two towers where the cut happens.

 

[MCast]

The line of sight balloons were for a possible Swolphin tower there. If they were for an elevated train, they would have had line of sight balloons along the entire route of whatever new system this may be.

Swolphin tower? Hopefully it's not another enormous, green triangle (or any other geometric shape) obstructing Epcot's skyline...

 

[GhostHost1000]

whatever they decide to do... I hope they link all the resorts and parks together at some point but DON'T do it in a mess throwing different new modes of transportation in the mix with a bunch of various transfers that half of the tourists won't have a clue how to use.