Will I be terminated?

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Domosuke

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First of all, I am extremely thankful and blessed for being hired by disney and getting my foot in the door, however we as humans react to different events in our own unique way. So I love disney and always will, just a little agitated and anxious about this situation.

I was recently hired onto QSFB, for respect and consideration, I am not revealing what resort or location it was. I now regret accepting the offer. It wasn't what I expected it to be, and I felt if I wanted to work fast food, I could have spent this time at Wendy or Burger King. I'm not majoring in culinary nor do I wish to start my own restaurant. Don't get me wrong as I said earlier I love disney and I feel privileged to have been hired, in hindsight, I would have gladly waited longer for a role in a better department and/or interview again to not be coerced into a position I didn't want. The transfer departments role defense you hear from associates is strictly based on luck and dismissive. Even still you have to wait just as if you never worked for the company at all as your seniority is gone. But that was my plan to stay in QSFB until my probation was over and transfer.

Long story short, this happened during my third shift, not counting training. Last Thursday. I got off a little after midnight, so obviously security backstage is more alert. I decided to take a different path backstage to walk to a cast member parking lot to my car.

On my way to the parking lot backstage, partly because I was lost being a new hire, I accidentally opened a backstage door to a popular attraction. It was the control room for the operators, and of course I wasn't supposed to be there.

One of the cast members standing about ten feet from the door asked if I needed help. He was the same age as I was so I thought I could be cute about it and told him "I'm looking for mickey mouse", and that made him upset. He obviously saw I was a foods cast member and thought his bowel movements didn't stink, being that's he is an attractions host whom are considered gods at disney.

He then tried to act like a police officer and gave me a look like he thought I was trying to trespass or do something illegal and started to march forward in my direction. I did not appreciate that and felt scared and anxious as I suffer from Autism, so I ran from him to prove a point. I ran in a direction I assumed would lead me on stage or in a safe area.

About a few seconds later I am being restrained by security cast members from different ranks. They escort me back to the door I opened, and the attractions cast member I previously involved myself with is laughing and shaking his head. They then try to see if I am a legitimate employee which I am, and why I did what I did and how everything got to this point. They were standing about 2 feet in front of me. They wanted to see if I was going to assault them or something. I was scared and uncomfortable.

The head honchos of security were then shortly called, and they confiscated my id card that I handed to them when they asked for it. The id card is for cast members to use to go through security points and clock in/out for shift. So without this card, I cannot work.

I thought by complying it would make the situation easier, but now I feel I probably should have been more vocal and defensive, as I still feel I didn't do anything to warrant this attention.

They then asked who my managers were, and escorted me to a room in the security building.

At this point, I was told to write a statement of the events. When I was done writing the statement, my manager then came into the room.

She basically told me I was on "Investigative Suspension", as they try to "investigate" what happened. I was not given my id back, and I cannot enter the park even as a guest, until this is resolved. I was told this could be anywhere from days to weeks, to months even.

I should have asked more questions about this, but being that it was late and I was scared/anxious and tired, I just told them I didn't have any. I was then escorted even further to the cast member parking lot.

I called my manager two times already and she isn't picking up her phone, and I left voice mails which haven't been answered. It's probably because it's the weekend, but I feel scared.

I feel that I could be terminated from saying a harmless joke and running from an attractions host, backstage, after hours where no guests were involved and nobody was hurt. I didn't steal anything, and I actually won a cast award already in QSFB

I mean I didn't like the way I was treated like a terrorist, but I'll let that slide, I hope I am given another chance. I could care less about what employees think of me being black and gay, I just really want to work for disney as being terminated from disney is something I couldn't stand for. I like helping guests.

Please help. :(
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

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I have no idea about Disney's hiring and firing policy. On what you've written I have sympathy for you, yet there is an awful lot of stupidity on your part.

Getting lost is easy, everybody does it all across the globe. A "tongue in cheek" remark (looking for Mickey Mouse) was more harmful than you can imagine - having clearly identified that you were in an area that you weren't supposed to be, then honesty is ALWAYS the best policy. You topped this off with running away. Your second big mistake - a trespasser who gets caught runs off, a burglar who gets caught runs off, a lost staff member stands still and explains.

You state that you panicked and that you have autism - are Disney aware ? If they are then this may go some way to explaining your actions and may help to save your job.

Don't ring - you may get emotional on the phone and say things that you don't mean or that can be taken the wrong way. Instead, email your boss and think through carefully what you want to say. Explain what happened and what went wrong. Explain why you did what you did and said what you said. ABOVE ALL - apologise, show remorse and ask for a second chance where you can show Disney's management the real you.

Good Luck
 

Domosuke

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Again, I have NOTHING, NO ILL FEELINGS, towards the Disney company or their operations. I am blessed to have been apart of this company and going through Traditions and meeting all the secrets and such. But, I am not going to lie, I am a little upset and depressed right now. Again also for safety and consideration, I'm not revealing names, or work locations or what resort this was.

I wasn't going to post this until I got an official resolution from this to which I would meet face to face and they would tell me what the decision was, but I feel like I'm already terminated, so since I assume I am no longer an employee, there is no need for me to be professional about this issue and keep quiet, rather than help out future employees not mess up like I did.

I was asked to come in again not this past Tuesday, but Tuesday last week to sort of clarify what I wrote in my statement the night the incident happened by some of the employee relations people. I thought this was going to be a meeting to announce their decision but it wasn't.

Because I was on suspension and didn't have my ID, I had to wait a Harbor Point, because I was on suspension and didn't have my ID. This was very nerve racking as here I am standing at a security checkpoint looking at the other employees check in, for thirty minutes in the hot sun waiting for the managers to come. So that was kinda unprofessional.

They basically kept contradicting themselves as to what the purpose of the meeting was and supposedly what the other cast members claimed I did wrong. I assumed it was to go over my statement and make sure I didn't write anything wrong or clear up anything I didn't mean to write or whatever, then I was told it was to make sure I didn't know any of the parties involved which I didn't.

Then the whole situation was flipped when they said was I sexually harassing a female coworker when that isn't true. So then it turned into a sexual harassment case. Smh.

REMARKABLY, not really changing the theme of the situation, I purposefully retracted the situation on this thread having a feeling that they would do this, and I changed words i said. For example, I never said "I'm looking for Mickey Mouse" in reality, however they mentioned that in the meeting. So that means they read this forum and said that in the meeting. I am not saying that its a bad thing, but it's not good to assume and that has no merit on my situation.

SO DISNEY DOES IN FACT READ THESE FORUMS. Be careful what you type if you aren't prepared to defend it.

So they asked to me write another statement in written form as to what was said at this meeting and to clear up any misconceptions which I did.

I was then asked by them why I chose to work for Disney, which I told them I want to get into the Entertainment and Animation field as a voice actor or an actor in general and my major is Sociology and Theater arts. They then asked if I didn't want to be in QSFB what position would I Like to be in, and I told them I would prefer to be in Attractions or Hotel Operations. So I kinda felt happy if they were terminating me, they wouldn't be asking what my future endeavors with the company are.

I was then told I would get an answer by Friday which I never did. I just assumed no news was good news.

I also checked my Hub and I was scheduled for this upcoming weekend so that was kinda uplifting.

I don't know how I missed the call, but Monday, I got a voice mail on my phone from Disney asking for me to call them to come in for a meeting.

I called them this past Tuesday morning as it was night time when I got the message. So I called asking to speak to the person who left the message, and I got someone else. It was actually one of my managers and she told me if I could come in Wednesday afternoon (Today) for a meeting. I said that it would be fine. She also explained that I needed to turn in any costumes or company property that I have which I do have. So to me this sounds like I'm being terminated so I asked "Am I being fired". She just responded that it is just company policy so it wasn't a yes or no. So I then hung up.

I was a little anxious after this conversation. I also had a nervous breakdown as I didn't want to accept the fact that I am no longer a cast member.

So today this morning I woke up feeling very depressed and not well. Due to the fact my phone is not working of all times, and the thought running in my head that today was the day I was being fired. I was going to call to reschedule this meeting to another day, as I was not mentally in the mood to go to the park and I could not get into contact with them. I was transferred to all the managers and the operator said all said if they aren't answering their phones, they might not be on duty for that day. I left a voice mail and still have not heard anything.

I also noticed a couple hours ago, my hub login shows a "this account is not active at this time page." So that can't be good.

I explained on both of my statements that I suffer from Autism, so I do have mental issues, but I don't let it affect my work.

I am thinking about offering up any severance pay, if I had any, and also my last three checks which I have notcashed yet in order to get a rehire status as I know I'm probably going to be a restricted rehire. :(

I will keep everyone updated I just want my situation heard and to see what I could have done in the future to prevent this as I feel this was a honest mistake.
 

mkt

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Three points from my personal experience, and what others have told me.

#1- I've only heard of one person who kept their job at Disney after being suspended. Not even I made it back.

#2- Disney managers are definitely two-faced.

#3- Turnover at Disney is ridiculously high, and they don't really care. For every person they terminate, there's someone else that'll take their job.

Your autism is your only defense - but you have to be tactful as to how you use it as a defense. Disney isn't scared of a lawsuit, but they are scared of bad press. You can't say or imply anything - but you have to put Disney in a position where they have to see the risk.
 

CaptainAmerica

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I noticed that some, not all, some, high ranked managers, leads, hr people at Disney are real two faced jerks.

I came in ten minutes late on one of my first shifts, I wasn't given any points, as in your first month you are waived for any tardy points which is good, and one of my leads said very stern, your late don't make this a habit, then preceded to compliment my purse and asked where I bought it. So that was very two faced for her to say that.

So when they had that little chit chat about what other positions you wanted, that was very two faced to me and they were probably giving you false hope that wasn't there.

I'm sorry this happened to you, and I have to agree with mostly everyone else said. Please take care of yourself and don't blame others for your actions.
Wait what exactly is a leader supposed to do if a subordinate shows up late to work? Not be stern? Ask you to please make it a habit? I would have done the exact same thing. That's on you for showing up late. I think it's a sign of professionalism that she was able to give you mild reprimand that you deserved while not jeopardizing your personal relationship (as evidenced by the casual purse conversation). It's called compartmentalization. As a leader, if a subordinate messes up the exact thing you're supposed to do is correct the mistake but still maintain a friendly working relationship. That's not being two-faced.
 

HRHPrincessAriel

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Just a question. How old are you two?

I'm really banging my head against a wall at the fact you are upset that your boss was upset with you for being late. How in the world is that being too faced for giving you a compliment later? They have a job to do so she did it. I'm stern with my kids I teach yet I also have a good teacher/student realtionship with them. I find they are more invested because of it.
 
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stevehousse

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Why wouldn't you just say you were lost?!? And running away made it seem like you doing something you shouldn't have been doing. I don't think saying you we're looking for Mickey was bad! But you should have just immediately said you were lost after the Mickey statement. Sounds like you made things worse than they were, and the whole situation sounds confusing!
 

HRHPrincessAriel

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I'm a teacher/coach at a high school. I could never imagine in a million years being upset with my boss about getting mad that I wasn't on time.

Actually, she did chastise me last week for not clocking in on time. I was here, I just forgot. I didn't make excuses. I said yes mam and we changed the topic of conversation.
 
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xdan0920

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Goodness gracious.

@Domosuke Mistake after mistake. My guess is you'll be let go. If you were my employee, you certainly would be. Use this to learn and grow. A couple lessons I would take away in your shoes.

1. Take responsibility for your actions. You messed up, own that.

2. Jokes are not an appropriate response to pointed questions.

@Danielia

Your attitude would have you out the door inside of 3 days if you worked for me. I guess those two faced managers are doing you a favor keeping you employed.
 

xdan0920

Think for yourselfer
Wait what exactly is a leader supposed to do if a subordinate shows up late to work? Not be stern? Ask you to please make it a habit? I would have done the exact same thing. That's on you for showing up late. I think it's a sign of professionalism that she was able to give you mild reprimand that you deserved while not jeopardizing your personal relationship (as evidenced by the casual purse conversation). It's called compartmentalization. As a leader, if a subordinate messes up the exact thing you're supposed to do is correct the mistake but still maintain a friendly working relationship. That's not being two-faced.

plant
 

mkt

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Disney isn't exactly "the real world" in regards to workplace environment - at least not when compared to my subsequent employers and clients. With the exception of a few higher up executives I had the pleasure of interacting with while at Disney, the general vibe I got from my coworkers and most of the direct management I deal with on a regular basis was somewhere high school and a frat house - down to the cliques, cattiness, substance abuse, and other adult... things.

Keep in mind, it's not their existence that made them stand out - they exist everywhere. Rather, it was that this was the status quo.

Then again, when you work for Disney, it's hard to differentiate between work life and personal life (work life balance? hah!).

Enough ranting for now. I'll be back later.
 

CaptainAmerica

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Disney isn't exactly "the real world" in regards to workplace environment - at least not when compared to my subsequent employers and clients. With the exception of a few higher up executives I had the pleasure of interacting with while at Disney, the general vibe I got from my coworkers and most of the direct management I deal with on a regular basis was somewhere high school and a frat house - down to the cliques, cattiness, substance abuse, and other adult... things.

Keep in mind, it's not their existence that made them stand out - they exist everywhere. Rather, it was that this was the status quo.

Then again, when you work for Disney, it's hard to differentiate between work life and personal life (work life balance? hah!).

Enough ranting for now. I'll be back later.
That's the nature of the beast in a front line role. The best and the brightest in the workplace generally don't stay in $10/hr park operations roles much past the College Program, including GSM positions (no offense anyone IN those roles, some of you are truly excellent). That's the case at Disney, McDonald's, Darden, or any place with large numbers of entry-level staff.
 

mkt

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That's the nature of the beast in a front line role. The best and the brightest in the workplace generally don't stay in $10/hr park operations roles much past the College Program, including GSM positions (no offense anyone IN those roles, some of you are truly excellent). That's the case at Disney, McDonald's, Darden, or any place with large numbers of entry-level staff.

I'd love to go back to Disney as a part timer, but aside from the rehire hoops I'd have to jump through, I don't think I could tolerate working with those people anymore. I can barely stand it when I'm in Orlando with friends, and I overhear CM conversations at bars. The cattiness and childishness turns my stomach.
 

mkt

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Premium Member
That's also the reason why I wouldn't go back even as a professional. Because there's such an army of entry level CMs, you can't get around them.
 
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