flynnibus
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The way I see it... Disney's 'event' policy is working in bringing people down to those classically lower periods. The question is, are they shifting people, or adding people?
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The way I see it... Disney's 'event' policy is working in bringing people down to those classically lower periods. The question is, are they shifting people, or adding people?
asianway
Well-Known Member
The only people getting added are the pixie brigade who goes 10x a year anytime some minutiae changes. Maybe the OCD runner or two. Other than that, shifting demand
flynnibus
Premium Member
Which.. for Disney on an operational cost... is a win. Stop having to pay extra to operate the place at 110% capacity.. instead move the needle more towards you optimum operating ranges so it costs you less.. and then bring up the periods that were below your optimum operating band. Oh, and get to charge people extra for showing up in the off-season! Brilliant!
asianway
Well-Known Member
Exactly what they are shooting for-the fall will show the take of the tape. As I understand it, Epcot on Saturday during food & wine is starting to become intolerable
Nubs70
Well-Known Member
Which is a proper application of Lean Management. The charging extra... not so much.
ChrisM
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flynnibus
Premium Member
??
Lean is about adapting, enpowering, being agile, eliminating waste.
Cost savings come from less waste and resulting 'better' output.
Reduced costs is an outcome of lean principles... Reducing costs is not a lean principle itself.
Shifting and manipulating customer demand to off periods isn't really about driving customer value. It's a selfish motivation of Disney.
dupac
Well-Known Member
Reminds me of line balancing...
71jason
Well-Known Member
Starting? Has been for at least 2 - 3 years.
And crowds Marathon weekend pretty much dwarf what I've seen at EPCOT this Summer.
So I agree Flynnibus has a point. But this isn't just WDW. The whole discussion started with Universal, and Sea World has been running third-off weekday ticket promos indicating they aren't packing in guests this Summer either.
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
sadly, its not only disney who does this.
just check blu-ray's official site about releases.
they keep releasing craploads of versions every month!
"deluxe", "platinum", "hardened", "ultimate", "collector's", "director's cut","theatrical version", "steel box version", "diamond" .
They will soon bring the ridiculous "Mamba jamba deluxe ultra turbo edition"
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
We do not talk about that monstrosity.
my money is on more DVC buildings.
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
in other news.. GOTG obliterated the August record with 94 million.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3885&p=.htm
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3885&p=.htm
Sped2424
Well-Known Member
And howard is only there due to his relation with marvel, so wouldn't that be a terrible reason?
Sped2424
Well-Known Member
WHAT HE WAS A COMIC BOOK SERieS? HOLD THE PRESSES. I actually have a couple of his old comics laying around here somewhere, I just mentioned something I thought would be cool and look at the reaction on here.
Spirited Monday Afternoon Quickees:
So, FP+ shows no availability for Maelstrom just in time for the new fiscal year to begin ... and Disney is kindly selling special tees of the attraction online. Put two plus two plus the Spirited information given you together and reach your own conclusion.
Tom Wolber is announced as Euro Disney's new CEO just the same day he officiates the opening of the Four Seasons (or ribbon-cutting). Coincidence? Reach your own conclusion.
The fact that Lifestylers have been part of that whole opening does make me vomit just a tad. I know I'd want my 5-star resort shilled by people who were going to live in their cars, won't pay for cable TV and demand to be refunded money when they order a Big Mac without cheese. Yes, Four Seasons, you are putting your faith in TWDC and perhaps you need to wake up and realize it isn't 1994 any longer.
There seems to be a profound lack of understanding my comments (and I do try to dumb them down to an 8th grade/USA level) regarding lack of crowds at UNI this summer. I am in NO WAY down on the resort at all (I couldn't really be much higher. I love their product and their commitment to excellence.) My statement is simply a realistic look at how this summer isn't all that great in O-Town at all. (And summer pretty much is considered over in the next week.)
This hasn't been a very busy summer for ANY O-Town park. That likely has more to do with our lousy economy and the murder of the American middle class by Wall Street and politicians than any theme park offerings.
As I sit here and type this it is pouring rain and 77 degrees out (cooled by said rain) ... I have had one day with no rain at all in the last two weeks. Most days it is cloudy and gloomy if not raining by noon. And, unlike in the decades before climate change became a factor, it doesn't really get better. Yet, I won't use weather as an excuse for park attendance. Americans take summer vacations because it is traditionally the only time they can get 1-2 weeks off and take the kids away. And that just seems to not have happened this year in traditional numbers (I can't wait for tomorrow's Disney earnings report, so someone can show me the error of my ways -- or attempt to!)
WDW may do nothing to express a summer season (the hastily thrown together 'Frozen Summer' at TPFKaTD-MGMS aside), but TDR does. Every year. Something different. Character shows/parades/merchandise/food offerings etc.
Great start for Guardians of the Galaxy. I'll be seeing it tomorrow. But no one is going to convince me that all these Disney fanbois were secretly Marvel fanbois in 1999 or 2004 or 2008. They weren't.
So, WDW is shilling Halloween merchandise in early August? No comment.
Remember when Tom 'Screens' Fitzgerald was given creative control of EPCOT for WDI all of the 'Big Things are About to Happen! Trust Tom and WDI!' blather? Yeah, I don't forget.
There seems to be an argument going on about WDW delaying or dragging out construction projects to save money or spread costs out and some people don't believe this. They're wrong. Flat out. Period. End of discussion.
So, FP+ shows no availability for Maelstrom just in time for the new fiscal year to begin ... and Disney is kindly selling special tees of the attraction online. Put two plus two plus the Spirited information given you together and reach your own conclusion.
Tom Wolber is announced as Euro Disney's new CEO just the same day he officiates the opening of the Four Seasons (or ribbon-cutting). Coincidence? Reach your own conclusion.
The fact that Lifestylers have been part of that whole opening does make me vomit just a tad. I know I'd want my 5-star resort shilled by people who were going to live in their cars, won't pay for cable TV and demand to be refunded money when they order a Big Mac without cheese. Yes, Four Seasons, you are putting your faith in TWDC and perhaps you need to wake up and realize it isn't 1994 any longer.
There seems to be a profound lack of understanding my comments (and I do try to dumb them down to an 8th grade/USA level) regarding lack of crowds at UNI this summer. I am in NO WAY down on the resort at all (I couldn't really be much higher. I love their product and their commitment to excellence.) My statement is simply a realistic look at how this summer isn't all that great in O-Town at all. (And summer pretty much is considered over in the next week.)
This hasn't been a very busy summer for ANY O-Town park. That likely has more to do with our lousy economy and the murder of the American middle class by Wall Street and politicians than any theme park offerings.
As I sit here and type this it is pouring rain and 77 degrees out (cooled by said rain) ... I have had one day with no rain at all in the last two weeks. Most days it is cloudy and gloomy if not raining by noon. And, unlike in the decades before climate change became a factor, it doesn't really get better. Yet, I won't use weather as an excuse for park attendance. Americans take summer vacations because it is traditionally the only time they can get 1-2 weeks off and take the kids away. And that just seems to not have happened this year in traditional numbers (I can't wait for tomorrow's Disney earnings report, so someone can show me the error of my ways -- or attempt to!)
WDW may do nothing to express a summer season (the hastily thrown together 'Frozen Summer' at TPFKaTD-MGMS aside), but TDR does. Every year. Something different. Character shows/parades/merchandise/food offerings etc.
Great start for Guardians of the Galaxy. I'll be seeing it tomorrow. But no one is going to convince me that all these Disney fanbois were secretly Marvel fanbois in 1999 or 2004 or 2008. They weren't.
So, WDW is shilling Halloween merchandise in early August? No comment.
Remember when Tom 'Screens' Fitzgerald was given creative control of EPCOT for WDI all of the 'Big Things are About to Happen! Trust Tom and WDI!' blather? Yeah, I don't forget.
There seems to be an argument going on about WDW delaying or dragging out construction projects to save money or spread costs out and some people don't believe this. They're wrong. Flat out. Period. End of discussion.
flynnibus
Premium Member
It's barely worth waiting for.. no big loss
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
I won't derail the conversation here, but this post deserves some eyeballs.
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/yeti-is-indeed-being-fixed.716149/page-42#post-6253652
http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/yeti-is-indeed-being-fixed.716149/page-42#post-6253652
LithiumBill
Well-Known Member
It was worth the wait if you were not spoiled.
GiveMeTheMusic
Well-Known Member
If true, and he's reliable, that's fantastic - it's just 7 years too late. That it has taken this long is beyond inexcusable, it's embarrassing.
Like running a 42 year old Christmas light parade every night.