Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts Tres

[david10225]

I'm really glad to hear the positive vibes. We are going on vacation next week to West Palm Beach and it sounds live a perfect diversion for a rainy day.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

I saw the LR on the 4th and loved it. I don't understand the hate for the movie. Should it win an Oscar? No, but it was completely enjoyable and a fast 2 1/2 hours. When it was over I was wishing for more.

I didn't care for the last 2 POTC films. Why would I pay money for an obvious repackaging of a franchise I am already sick of? I don't HATE the movie. I haven't seen it. Probably WON'T see it unless I catch it on cable. But I feel like I have seen it 4 times already with varying degrees of enjoyment.

Is it my imagination or did Universal, with DM2 top both of Disney's summer efforts?

 

[HenryMystic]

I didn't care for the last 2 POTC films. Why would I pay money for an obvious repackaging of a franchise I am already sick of? I don't HATE the movie. I haven't seen it. Probably WON'T see it unless I catch it on cable. But I feel like I have seen it 4 times already with varying degrees of enjoyment.

Is it my imagination or did Universal, with DM@ top both of Disney's summer efforts?

Nope, not your imagination

 

[Animaniac93-98]

If any of you start watching this you are officially banned from coming back on this forum. Even ironically. Even if you're watching it with your kids. Just...

Just

It's not a show, it's a line of merchandise.

 

[IHeartArt]

It's not a show, it's a line of merchandise.

Well thank Christ for that.

 

[GoofGoof]

I didn't care for the last 2 POTC films. Why would I pay money for an obvious repackaging of a franchise I am already sick of? I don't HATE the movie. I haven't seen it. Probably WON'T see it unless I catch it on cable. But I feel like I have seen it 4 times already with varying degrees of enjoyment.

Is it my imagination or did Universal, with DM@ top both of Disney's summer efforts?

Does IM3 count as the summer? I think from early numbers it looks like DM had about the same open as Monsters U last weekend. Strong numbers.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Does IM3 count as the summer? I think from early numbers it looks like DM had about the same open as Monsters U last weekend. Strong numbers.

Yep, Monsters U=$84 million
DM2=$85 million

I expect DM2 to have more legs than Monsters U.

 

[GoofGoof]

Yep, Monsters U=$84 million
DM2=$85 million

I expect DM2 to have more legs than Monsters U.

And international is doing well too. I think I read it cost less than $100M to make. A gold mine.

 

[Goofyernmost]

I was bored today (can you tell?) so I made a list of Disney domestic release figures adjusted to 2013 dollars:


The Fox and the Hound: $107 million
TRON: $89 million
The Black Cauldron: $47 million
The Great Mouse Detective: $54 million
Who Framed Roger Rabbit? : $301 million
Oliver and Company: $102 million
Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: $261 million
The Little Mermaid: $168 million
Dick Tracy: $194 million
The Rescuers Down Under: $52 million
The Rocketeer: $88 million
Beauty and the Beast: $274 million
Aladdin: $415 million
Hocus Pocus: $76 million
The Nightmare Before Christmas: $96 million
The Lion King: $594 million
The Santa Clause: $275 million
Pocahontas: $257 million
Toy Story: $350 million
The Hunchback of Notre Dame: $179 million
101 Dalmatians: $244 million
Hercules: $171 million
Mulan: $204 million
A Bug’s Life: $275 million
Tarzan: $267 million
Toy Story 2: $384 million
Fantasia 2000: $89 million
The Emperor’s New Groove: $131 million
Atlantis: $117 million
Monsters, Inc.: $359 million
Lilo and Stitch: $199 million
Treasure Planet: $52 million
Finding Nemo: $447 million
Pirates of the Caribbean 1: $402 million
The Haunted Mansion: $100 million
Brother Bear: $112 million
Home on the Range: $64 million
The Incredibles: $334 million
Chicken Little: $168 million
Cars: $296 million
Meet the Robinsons: $118 million
Ratatouille: $238 million
Wall-E: $247 million
Bolt: $126 million
Up: $310 million
The Princess and the Frog: $110 million
Tangled: $202 million

Notable re-issues:

One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1991): $115 million
Fantasia (1990): $47 million
The Jungle Book (1990): $83 million
Snow White (1987): $94 million
Snow White (1993): $80 million
Cinderella (1987): $69 million
Song of the South (1986): $38 million


That only took an hour, lol. But it's interesting number crunching none the less. Some additional notes:

- No, these are not exact, they're based on finding the difference in average ticket price and multiplying that to the original total. BOM does the same, but more precise since the know the total number of tickets sold.
- Making $100 million domestically 'aint what she used to be. So you can stop acting like PatF was special for hitting it.
- Some of these were record breakers for animated gross in their time when not adjusting for inlfation. They inlcude Fox and the Hound and Oliver and Company.
- The re-issues show how much of a cash cow they used to be. The combined numbers for Cinderella, Snow White and The Aristocats in 1987 exceeded $200 million in todays dollars! And with only the costs of new campaigns and prints to boot. This is why Eisner even then considered ditching new animated features (or so I've read, anyone want to confirm this?). Also, even in the 80s Sleeping Beauty wasn't much of a money maker. Less than SotS the same year, but eventually she became a hit on video and merch.

What about Mary Poppins?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

And international is doing well too. I think I read it cost less than $100M to make. A gold mine.

And that's the $100 million question (literally) isn't it? Why can DM2 be made for $80 million, but Pixar needs $200 million for their films? Must be expensive catering for the staff.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

What about Mary Poppins?

Box Office Mojo's figures for movie prices and domestic totals only go so far back. I'd have to check elsewhere for Poppins or other pre-1980 movies.

EDIT: My bad, they do go far back. Poppins would be $265 million in today's dollars.

If that figure seems low, keep in mind the size of movie releases were not what they are today back in the 60s. They didn't have 4,000+ screens playing MPs across megaplexes nation wide.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

And international is doing well too. I think I read it cost less than $100M to make. A gold mine.

$76 million production budget

 

[doctornick]

Yep, Monsters U=$84 million
DM2=$85 million

More days for DM2 though, no?

 

[Disneyhead'71]

More days for DM2 though, no?

No, the total for the "5 Day Holiday Weekend" was $124 million.

 

[doctornick]

And that's the $100 million question (literally) isn't it? Why can DM2 be made for $80 million, but Pixar needs $200 million for their films? Must be expensive catering for the staff.

Yep. That's really a huge question. Why does everything that Disney touch seem to have inexplicably bloated budgets?

 

[Soarin' Over Pgh]

Can't wait to hear. While we're waiting, anyone want to comment on the newest extension of the Disney PrincessTM(R)(C)SM brand?

I wish to God this was fake. This fall, DCP is launching Disney Princess Palace Pets. Top row L - R: Ariel's kitty Treasure, Rapunzel's pony Blondie, Snow's bunny Berry. Bottom row L - R: Cinderella's puppy Pumpkin, Belle's puppy Teacup and Aurora's kitty Beauty. Not pictured is Mulan's panda, Blossom.

I can't even.

So sugary sweet it hurts. Does everything have to be so cutsie wootsie with whipped cream on top?

And since when did a mermaid need a pet...cat?


Oi.

 

[GoofGoof]

More days for DM2 though, no?

DM2 had $142M domestic total including the extra days. $293M including international (opened early in some markets)
$85M is just the weekend (7/5 - 7/7)

Monsters U is at $216M total domestic and $400M including international.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Don't forget The Sorcerer's Apprentice with Nicholas Cage

Is it wrong that I liked that movie?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Is it wrong that I liked that movie?

Only if you liked it in an attempt to be ironically cool because Cage was in it.

 

[Cody5242]

Even my dad liked the Lone Ranger and he didnt like The Avengers. Take that for whatever its worth