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(RUMOR) Rivers Of Light to end in 2020 replaced with new show featuring Disney characters

Discussion in 'WDW Parks News, Rumors and Current Events' started by brb1006, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. dennis-in-ct

    dennis-in-ct Active Member

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    I thought the key was to appeal to the parents. The parents spend the money - not the children.
     
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  2. brb1006

    brb1006 Well-Known Member Original Poster

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    The amount of Disney Junior and Disney Princess merch would say otherwise.
     
  3. brb1006

    brb1006 Well-Known Member Original Poster

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    I was referring to Bravissimo the former water show at Tokyo Disneysea.


     
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  4. brb1006

    brb1006 Well-Known Member Original Poster

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    It's Japan and a case of Americans Hate Tingle
     
  5. MisterPenguin

    MisterPenguin Premium Member

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    We have shifting sands on rumors of changes/additions that are supposed to start next year and we should give any import or worry to an event four years out?

    Three years from now, if the rumor continues, you'll have people freaking out because RoL is now their favorite night time show. It'll get much higher reviews than Jungle Book ever did making them rethink that an IP would work better.
     
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  6. Magic Feather

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    Regarding RoL ratings, as @lentesta said, they are respectable by a large margin, just low compared to other nightime shows. Not to bring the whole Uni debate into this (this is just for a non-Disney industry reference) this show scores realms above Cinematic Spectacular and most others in the industry. No one (well, very few) seems to find RoL to be a bad show, it is just different and a bit underwhelming. It is not the secong coming of (insert your deity of choice) nor the second coming of (insert your devil of choice). As has been said before, this is a long way off, and honestly, the Bobs want their moneys worth on this one instead of cutting their losses (which are too small to be lost). The RoL merch is selling modestly, and unless we see empty shows running, thing look good for the foreseeable future. Esoecially if/when they get those extra few effects working.
     
  7. MansionButler84

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    As you imply, all I'm aware of for this show is work to plus it with currently-unsatisfactory effects. I don't believe anyone is seriously discussing a replacement for it. More like IllumiNations, DHS's latest projection-and-three-fireworks show, Happilly Ever After, Fantasmic updates, and a nighttime parade. And a daytime parade.

    Maybe after those few projects are done. Oh and the drones and Home Depot Christmas tree display that are supposed to make people want to visit the Springs to buy $70 jeans and a $20 fast food burger (with $10 peppermint bark milkshake!) at Christmas.
     
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    You should have waited 12 days to post this.
     
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  9. lentesta

    lentesta Premium Member

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    Here's a comparison of the ratings we've got for the nighttime spectaculars over the last few months, sorted by average overall rating (highest first). I also added in the average rating of all of the park's attractions, for comparison. It's a 5-point scale, with 5 the maximum.

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    Four age groups (teens, young adults, over 30's, and seniors) rate RoL lower than any other show (and lower than the average AK attraction). I'm not sure that adding characters to RoL will improve the show for those demographics.

    I'm going to head out to see the show again later this week. The LOML hasn't seen it yet, so it'll be good to get her impression.
     
  10. Magic Feather

    Magic Feather Well-Known Member

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    A bit surprised with those numbers. If you don't mind my asking (or if you are able to answer) where did you acquire those stats? Last I saw, Cinematic was doing very poorly with preschool, hence the recent efforts to add the family movie preambles.
     
  11. lentesta

    lentesta Premium Member

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    Unofficial Guide readers and TouringPlans.com users. A couple hundred thousand families per year.
     
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    Wow. That kind of data is fascinating, and yet would obviously be alarmingly bad news for TDO execs.

    No wonder the show is already heading to Yesterland. Likely after the third fiscal year (2020) they can amortize and pencil out enough of the losses to cushion some of the sting of this failure.

    At least it's not as bad as Light Magic.
     
  13. JudyHopps

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    1 being the worst, 5 being the best, correct?
     
  14. TheDude23

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    Good data, but the sample size of responses for some of the shows (maybe all of the shows) is just too small to draw any sort of firm conclusions.
     
  15. MisterPenguin

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    Ok...

    1. The people polled are not a random sample.

    2. The number polled for RoL is way too small to be anywhere significant.

    3. Oddly, the average rating within each age subgroup is rounded to the nearest half point, while the aggregate rating isn't.

    4. According to those polled the rating of attractions for the parks from best to least is...

    1. DHS
    2. DAK
    3. MK
    4. USF
    5. DCA
    6. Epcot

    Interesting.
     
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  16. prfctlyximprct

    prfctlyximprct Well-Known Member

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    Can someone, anyone, take this dagger out of my heart??

    I CAN'T. Just throw my bleeding body into the river with the lotus flowers circled around me.

    :(
     
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  17. MisterPenguin

    MisterPenguin Premium Member

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    No, it's not. This is a rumor. It may or it may not. But you cannot say "it is heading" without using the subjunctive.
     
  18. Magic Feather

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    Don't go crying yet... Heck, don't go crying until 2020 absolute earliest. If anything, you should rejoice first. RoL 2.0 does seem to be en route (relatively minor changes, but nonetheless).
     
  19. lentesta

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    Yep.
     
  20. lentesta

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    Not sure I understand the "not a random sample" point. UG/TP users aren't a random sample?

    Agreed about the sample size. More is better. I can get the raw data if that would help with #3, once we have enough surveys.
     
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