Possible Attraction in France pavilion (Epcot) Update - new Attraction Greenlit

[BrianLo]

Yes I have been to WDW. Over a hundred times.
You should pay better attention.

Have you been to Animal Kingdom before?

(this is like a fun game)

 

[Kman101]

You could try getting me banned. Oh wait. That has also failed several times.

How about not making every thread about me?

You make every thread about you.

 

[jt04]

Have you been to Animal Kingdom before?

(this is like a fun game)

Probably a dozen times. Before Everest and after. Hope that helps.

 

[jt04]

You make every thread about you.

Nope.

 

[MrHappy]

It was only greenlit several months ago. Way back then, it wasn't going to begin work for a few years. Only recently was its timetable moved up when whatever was going in Ellen's got pushed back.

As far as announcement... we're on Disney time. Historically, they can take months to years to announce something, or, announce something too soon that it leaves people hanging (Pandora). Or, not announce it at all (StoryMaker).

So, do not take a lack of announcement as a sign that it's not happening.

@marni1971 said, or hinted at, or at least what I interpreted his statements as, RAT will be built rather secretly. It's off the promenade and not very visible. So construction could get started without much fanfare....sure, at WDWMagic you guys will find the permits and aerials, but it appears the announcement and the opening will be in short order from one-another, in a non-traditional WDW sense.

EDIT: I type wrong sometimes, corrected

 

[Kman101]

Same here. I always thought "green light" meant "approved design," not just "I like that general idea."

I follow. I suppose I thought a project given the green light meant it was beyond those stages.

That's how I always took the term of something being greenlit. That the proposal stages were done and it was only a matter of when they started construction.

 

[MisterPenguin]

@marni1971 said, or hinted at, or at least what I interpreted his statements as, RAT will be built rather secretly. It's off the promenade and not very visible. So construction could get started without much fanfare.

I wouldn't call that 'secretly' as if they didn't want anyone to know it's getting built. If that were the case, Rat's greenlit status wouldn't have been known by half a dozen insiders. More like they don't have to announce it before it starts getting built simply because the construction will happen to be out of sight.

This gives marketing the chance to announce it at a fitting time (although, if they leave it up the folks at the Disney Blog, a 'fitting time' is a few days after it opens).

 

[lazyboy97o]

I wouldn't call that 'secretly' as if they didn't want anyone to know it's getting built. If that were the case, Rat's greenlit status wouldn't have been known by half a dozen insiders. More like they don't have to announce it before it starts getting built simply because the construction will happen to be out of sight.

This gives marketing the chance to announce it at a fitting time (although, if they leave it up the folks at the Disney Blog, a 'fitting time' is a few days after it opens).

All projects are supposed to be secret. Green light is just the point where you are going to be being on many more people and companies to complete the work.

 

[MrHappy]

My reference to "secret" was more relative. Opposed to the song and dance announcement then let down when cuts are made as the project went along. This RAT approach seemed to me, if I'm reading between the lines correctly, seems to be more of a Universal approach - to build then announce. However RAT is a little anticlimactic as its rumored to be a clone of Paris.

 

[rioriz]

Let me guess... you ignored @marni1971

Exactly haha

 

[rioriz]

So instead of using the term Green Light should we now use the term "Construction Ready" or something like it...so in this instance Rat is not Construction Ready

 

[jaxonp]

I can't imagine Disney changing too much of the rides layout etc... maybe upgraded projectors and the natural progression of technology over the years but the point of copying an attraction is to keep the R&D costs down... otherwise Disney would just do completely new attraction.. obviously that hasn't been he case for quite some time with Disney.

 

[lazyboy97o]

So instead of usung the term Green Light should we now use the term "Construction Ready" or something like it...so in this instance Rat is not Construction Ready

Even "construction ready" is not really an appropriate term. Disney often uses the fast-track method, so you will have some design work continuing even though construction has started. A good recent example is the gondolas. Permits have been filed for the foundations only while the actual station designs are still being developed.

I can't imagine Disney changing too much of the rides layout etc... maybe upgraded projectors and the natural progression of technology over the years but the point of copying an attraction is to keep the R&D costs down... otherwise Disney would just do completely new attraction.. obviously that hasn't been he case for quite some time with Disney.

Even without changing the layout, you can't just do what was done in France. Everything has to be adjusted for US materials that are in inches and not millimeters. You have to make sure everything complies with the EPCOT Building Code. You're structure has to be redesigned for Florida wind load requirements and local soil conditions. The layout may be nearly identical, but how you get that layout has to be reviewed and changed accordingly.

 

[Bocabear]

But.... wasn't the attraction designed by WDI in California? So aside from some recalculations that had to be doneDuring construction in France, I am sure the basic plans are english enouogh to work here...the bigger problem would be how they are scaling it back without the restaurant, and how the new building will fit into the existing space.

 

[Mikejakester]

So wait, You guys are saying that the current "construction" (or prep for construction) behind the pavilions on the south side are not Rat related? If not, what is it related to?

 

[Bocabear]

Gondolas?

 

[danlb_2000]

So wait, You guys are saying that the current "construction" (or prep for construction) behind the pavilions on the south side are not Rat related? If not, what is it related to?

What exactly are you referring to?

 

[marni1971]

But.... wasn't the attraction designed by WDI in California? So aside from some recalculations that had to be doneDuring construction in France, I am sure the basic plans are english enouogh to work here...the bigger problem would be how they are scaling it back without the restaurant, and how the new building will fit into the existing space.

Not a problem and not a problem.

 

[Mikejakester]

What exactly are you referring to?

So apperantly there is construction equipment, materials, etc all laid out backstage of the pavilions ranging from France through germany. Considered a "mess". Anyone else seen this? My first thought was Rat, but after readng this thread and hearing what Marni is saying, I don't think it is. Gondolas is my second guess, but it seems out of place. Unless, it is always like this...

 

[Bocabear]

Not a problem and not a problem.

As I suspected...lol they have whole entire teams that do this.