Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Let it go, ElsaThey could always increase resort stays at a higher price by giving 3 free fast passes....
Let it go, ElsaThey could always increase resort stays at a higher price by giving 3 free fast passes....
Just wait until they discover that Royal has a better product at a better priceā¦Itās become the new āenclaveā for the Disney puristsā¦the old guard that gobbled up dvc and now find the parks distasteful.
But their pricing only works because of the limited supply.
And Bobā¦being Bobā¦is gonna yutz with that too.
From what I saw on the last group cruise that KK did, we had a number of kids on the cruise with us and they loved our Royal sailing on the Wonder of the Seas. MarieJust wait until they discover that Royal has a better product at a better priceā¦
ā¦oh I carry that banner too. Itās not really close with the last 2 superclassesā¦Just wait until they discover that Royal has a better product at a better priceā¦
You really canāt compare the amenities of an Oasis class ship to Disney boatā¦makes them look like the good ship lollipopsFrom what I saw on the last group cruise that KK did, we had a number of kids on the cruise with us and they loved our Royal sailing on the Wonder of the Seas. Marie
I would be shocked if we see any strategy shifts this year. They'll keep peddling out new discounts in hopes of getting a few tire-kickers to convert, but it's going to be a soft summer and fall across the resort... there will be some decent deals for out-of-state travelers if they aren't too picky. And perhaps some great deals for locals.
Extrapolating, it seems like they've tied their hopes to an overall uptick for Orlando next year due to EU.
Force Majeure.
I think you misread that post you quotedā¦there are discounts all over the place and expect that to continueWe don't think there will be a discount the week after Thanksgiving this eyar. The free dining starts the week after that, so perhaps people will book that week.
So all that taken into consideration, along with what may be a significant amount of ride closures (at least 3 big ones possibly), the soft forecast, perhaps we will have a more relaxed trip, with lower crowds. That may be really nice.
I agreeā¦In seeing some of the comparisons, particularly when it comes to perception of crowd levels - I think it needs noting that how the crowd levels "feel" because of congestion in walkways and such is not a good meter. Things have drastically changed over just the last 5 - 10 years - let alone 15 - 20 ago - when it comes to how crowds are distributed.
There are way more people filling those walkways and other areas that used to be "invisible" standing in queues. Even back in the days of regular old paper FP. There are so many people just milling about on their phones between ride reservations and waiting for food orders, etc. that aren't any more. So when you see full walkways and such now, it's not an even comparison - and when you see sparse walkways at times now - it's a lot more dire than you might think.
I think you misread that post you quotedā¦there are discounts all over the place and expect that to continue
One area that seemed like an abundance of foreign tourists ( ie Brazil ) was at the Orlando Premium outlets on International Drive. One fellow guest I saw bought approx 50 pairs of Nike shoes at the Nike outlet. . He advised he would resell in Brazil. This was pre 2020. Shopping was a destination alongside going to WDW, SW and Uni.I'm seeing a relatively higher number of conference goers at the deluxe resorts. And a large percentage of people in the parks are foreigners. Increased presence of DVC marketing collateral everywhere.
Resorts seem empty. Table serves only half full, if that. No lines at concessions. And paying $3 for a 25 cent Mickey pretzel was almost obligatory. Now, at $8.25 for that same pretzel it's apparently a strong hell no.
HS right now. And RoTR has been down for over an hour. RRnC is closed and ToT has a posted 50 minute wait.
And it's only 85 degrees
I've been here since Monday in 3 different parks and it appears neither Disney nor TP are all that accurate. Disney runs on the pessimistic side while TP has been overly optimistic.
In terms of overall accuracy, posted times have been closer to actual than TP.
Curious how bookings on the cruise line are. My guess is that they are strong, even with them being double the price of more budget friendly lines.
That isn't surprising to me, at least. Back in 2019, I did some napkin math after coming home from a 7-night cruise on the Fantasy. For our family of 6, it was cheaper to do that 7-night cruise on the Fantasy than it would have been for a comparable trip to the parks for the 6 of us - 7 day park hoppers, 7 table service meals, 7 quick service meals, plus snacks, drinks, and one in-room meal each day. And that was including using DVC points for the hotel (not counting maintenance fees, that seemed pretty silly). Granted, cruise prices have increased since then, but I can't imagine the price increases have been dramatic enough to tip the scales in a dramatic way.Very strong cruise bookings.
That isn't surprising to me, at least. Back in 2019, I did some napkin math after coming home from a 7-night cruise on the Fantasy. For our family of 6, it was cheaper to do that 7-night cruise on the Fantasy than it would have been for a comparable trip to the parks for the 6 of us - 7 day park hoppers, 7 table service meals, 7 quick service meals, plus snacks, drinks, and one in-room meal each day. And that was including using DVC points for the hotel (not counting maintenance fees, that seemed pretty silly). Granted, cruise prices have increased since then, but I can't imagine the price increases have been dramatic enough to tip the scales in a dramatic way.
Just got a great discount today. Already had a POR visit booked for 10 days in July with a discount from earlier in the year. The new 30% off deluxe rooms allowed me to change to Yacht club for only $1000 for 10 days. I thought that was a steal and took it.I thought it said 2025, we are going 2024. But I will certainly take a resort discount if offered!
I just can't justify the prices of Disney cruises. I could do 8 days at Pop for 1/2 the price of a 4 day Disney cruise. We did our one Disney cruise. But for the price, we will be doing Royal in the future.That isn't surprising to me, at least. Back in 2019, I did some napkin math after coming home from a 7-night cruise on the Fantasy. For our family of 6, it was cheaper to do that 7-night cruise on the Fantasy than it would have been for a comparable trip to the parks for the 6 of us - 7 day park hoppers, 7 table service meals, 7 quick service meals, plus snacks, drinks, and one in-room meal each day. And that was including using DVC points for the hotel (not counting maintenance fees, that seemed pretty silly). Granted, cruise prices have increased since then, but I can't imagine the price increases have been dramatic enough to tip the scales in a dramatic way.
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